So, you admit that your lack of perceived value in privacy is not the most common view? Are there any reasons why you might believe, or disbelieve, in that value?

It's definitely not the common view, but as you know, I don't really think much of the common person.

As for reasons as to why I disbelieve in the value... I mean, it's not that I disbelieve the value, it's that I don't consider it a value at all. I place no value on privacy, and if I think I've already sort of given enough reasons as to why, but I guess I'll just sort of wrap it up in a bow.

So, again, number one, it's because I have nothing to be ashamed of. I've given my name, because names are essentially worthless. I've given my image, because my image is essentially worthless. I've even given my fucking address. Why? I don't know, you tell me whether or not I should be afraid of some punk kid over the Internet--because I'm not. A lot of people here like to make fun of my hair--whatever, that's their right. Why should I be embarrassed? I like my hair the way it is, and if I want to cut it, I will.

Like I said before, though--there is a line. If someone uses my image against me in some way, that's a violation. That's why I get so fucking pissed when people start using my name against me, or my image against me, when they themselves are too much of a P U S S Y to give me THEIR name, to give me THEIR image, so I can get good and personal with them as well. They value their right to privacy so much, and yet they'll do shit like that. And I did the same to them, their hearts would probably fucking collapse, because they're a bunch of pusillanimous children with no integrity.

I'd take a picture of anything that I own and show it to anyone who cares enough--it's who I am, and I will be accountable. No one should be embarrassed of who they are. No one should be ashamed. No one should feel like a bad person.

If you are embarrassed? Get over it.
If you are ashamed? Fix that.
If you're a bad person? Stop being a bad person.

If we dropped our silly egocentric notions--this idea that we have this reputation to live up too--"Oh no, he found out that I like to masturbate to rape porn"--if anyone honestly gives a cunt about that stuff, if they're gonna stop respecting you over stuff like that, then who needs them?

The only time I'd care, the only time anyone should care, in my opinion, is if you're hiding a body under the floorboards. And if that's your circumstance, then yeah, you should be afraid--maybe you shouldn't have been a murderous psychopath. But I think it's safe to assume that you're not.

edit:
I didn't proofread that, so I apologize for any mistakes or irrelevant ramblings...

That's exactly my point. The ideas of freedom of expression and, on the flip-side, freedom to privacy are essentially safe-guards against such magnitudes of irrationality so that you never have to martyr yourself.

so it's a right founded not on any rational standard, but because humans are invasive pieces of shit

i mean, i knew that all along, but

it's no wonder whenever i think about it, i just get an intense whiff of bullshit

it's this kind of mentality that keeps gays in the closet

i can't support that, sorry

Would you say then that you take your freedom for granted?

well, no, because i don't need privacy, either

it's not like how i take my shoes for granted, because i wear them every single day, and if i had them taken away from me, i'd be like, "well, fuck, this sure fucking sucks"

if i had my privacy taken away, it wouldn't change anything, because i was never remotely a private person at all

A "freedom to privacy", to me, seems like a necessary corollary of a freedom to expression. Which I think we all value, here.

well, personally, i just don't value it at all

it's just a fundamental... thing, i guess

You won't be so facetious when the government outlaws your favourite kind of porn.

i wouldn't actually care though if they did that

i get what you're saying, but

i can't sympathize with it
i just think people's notion of "privacy" is, frankly, an irrational delusion

Only if you can trust the authority in question.

oh no, big brother found out that i like to watch interracial midget porn

what am i ever to doooooo

i don't think you have any right to be ashamed about who you are

...unless what you're hiding is actually, you know, actually morally bad or whatever

not something like... pajamas.
or... what kind of music you listen to.

If I have footsie pajamas on my bed, I'm going to try and stop someone from going into my room. People have secrets, and they are often completely legal secrets. But they're still secrets, something you're hiding. So not wanting a camera in your living room doesn't mean that it's because you're cooking meth in it, or that you're planning terrorism.

>having secrets

open book master race

Quote from: Verbatim on December 28, 2014, 03:53:22 PM

Did you know that you're in my bottom ten users (If not bottom five)?

Does your list have tiers for each individual user?

yeah

that would make a good thread...

brb

Quote from: D4C on December 28, 2014, 03:14:41 PM

But only the guilty are nervous in the face of authority!

If you're doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.

people always make fun of this logic, but

...it makes so much sense

As if I need one.

Right. But I mean, then there's the issue of, you know, lines. Where do you draw the line between an acceptable amount of romance and not enough romance?

Me, personally, I'd do away with romance stories entirely--they're stupid and dumb and only serve to piss a lot of people off, it seems. Fucking Naruto, anyone? I fucking hate Naruto, and even I was pissed off when I heard that So, fuck all this romance shit. It's a cliche, needless plot device that will never die.

I still think it's pandering either way.

If the show were made in the year 3000 and LGBT stuff was considered beyond normal (regardless of how it should be today), it wouldn't be pandering.

but it wasn't made in the year 3000
it was made during the "everyone is a progressive" age of today

Why do I have you unmuted? I'm going to fix that.