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12781
« on: April 15, 2016, 02:22:25 PM »
It's 2016. If you're working a blue collar job, you're in a collective bargaining state, and you still refuse to join a union, you're just holding everyone back. I have no sympathy for workers who go out of their way to not be represented.
I'm pretty sure you're in favour of reducing inequality, aren't you?
So why are you calling for something that's going to worsen the only kind of inequality that has steadily been getting worse over the past few decades?
You have the choice of whether or not to join a union. Not getting the benefits because you chose not to isn't inequality, it's making a bad decision. The inequality I loathe is inequality based on things you can't control. Not being able to fight for your country because you weren't born with a dick, for example. One is a fair exclusion (they had the chance to be included), the other is an unfair exclusion (they never had the chance to be included, no matter what they did).
12782
« on: April 15, 2016, 02:11:30 PM »
I'm with my local UFCW but I can see why others wouldn't want to be a part of a union. Majority rule in voting for what terms workers want brought to the table with company may not reflect what you want brought up. Also there's the fact that you not only keep a little more of your paycheck every week, you get paid slightly more than Unionized workers. At least, that's how it is for my job. I only have union representation because I'm a bit unsure of myself on the job when handling money and would rather have an investigation be brought in if I screwed up than having my bosses flat out fire me at the possibility of stealing money.
It's 2016. If you're working a blue collar job, you're in a collective bargaining state, and you still refuse to join a union, you're just holding everyone back. I have no sympathy for workers who go out of their way to not be represented. You don't have to pay dues, but you still get all the benefits union workers do. They can't only give their members benefits (they should be able to), they represent company workers as a whole. It's 2016. 
Haha sick meme bro!! You're totally hip and happening
12783
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:53:13 PM »
You have every right to tell anyone anything. That doesn't mean you're in the right for doing so.
I don't know why people can't just mind their own business these days.
12784
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:50:56 PM »
Woah man, turns out a ridiculously high minimum wage is a bad idea. Better hate on unions for realizing this.
>unions fight for $15 min-wage
>unions fight for union exemptions to $15 min-wage
Yeah, my cynicism totally isn't justified here. It's totally not as if they're trying to benefit unionised workers at the expense of non-unionised workers.
Surely, the correct response to their obviously sudden realisation about their own folly is to say "We got it wrong". Not to go "Oh well, let's just make sure our workers aren't shafted".
I'm actually amazed you perceive the situation in the way that you do.
It's 2016. If you're working a blue collar job, you're in a collective bargaining state, and you still refuse to join a union, you're just holding everyone back. I have no sympathy for workers who go out of their way to not be represented.
12785
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:48:38 PM »
More like the fact that there are two almost impossible to beat bosses solely designed to punish you for doing a genocide run Those aren't punishments, they're fucking rewarding, fun fights that you just suck at. you can never get the good ending if you do it first (even though ruining the good ending by doing genocide second is objectively more immoral) unless you mean "perfect ending" that sums up to a few lines of dialogue, you can get the pascifist ending. Again, you're just scared pissless of consequences to your actions in a game that expresses itself as having permanent ones. go play bejewled you fucking scruband that Chara is set up to be this terrible person but didn't do anything as bad as Asgore Chara kills because she hates everything. She's a product of her environment, but she is just a feral monster. Asgore would have to kill people one way or the other in order to free the monsters. He's not of respectable ethical character but he's not evil.
Those aren't realistic "consequences", they're meta mechanics solely put into place because the SJW creator is obsessed with "muh no one has to die tagline"
uh
what?
characters hating you aren't realistic consequences? characters should just have no response to the fact you're murdering everyone?
or are you saying that stylistic reflections of the nature of your actions aren't good for the game. in which case you should posit why they aren't effective. because nothing about those aspects are bad.
Undertale is a flawed game that easily dislikable, but these aren't the reasons.
Lmao if you think Undyne's genocide boss fight is fun or beatable without wasting hours If you do the genocide ending first, you can't get the perfect ending, because Chara takes your soul. Asgore literally killed six children because he doesn't want to live underground, Chara is a BAMF who just wants to purge monsters. Like I said, it's not about characters hating the fact you killed their friends. It's about the game hating the player because you didn't play "the right way". Literally every fabric of the game's existence, in a meta way, goes out of its way to not want you to play half of the game.
12786
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:43:26 PM »
Even in a game like Mass Effect, taking the evil route results in disgusted reactions from certain companions, different and darker outcomes for the world, etc. You're being evil, of course nothing good is going to come from it.
But yet the game itself doesn't strongly, strongly dissuade you from taking that path. It's a viable option for you to play as - in Undertale, choosing that option makes you the player a monster. How dare you kill all these peace loving villagers who just want to be your friend? No, the TRUE way to play is to never kill a soul. Anything else and you're missing the TRUE point of the game.
Yeah funnily enough people consider you a monster if you commit genocide.
12787
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:35:43 PM »
Even in a game like Mass Effect, taking the evil route results in disgusted reactions from certain companions, different and darker outcomes for the world, etc. You're being evil, of course nothing good is going to come from it.
But yet the game itself doesn't strongly, strongly dissuade you from taking that path. It's a viable option for you to play as - in Undertale, choosing that option makes you the player a monster. How dare you kill all these peace loving villagers who just want to be your friend? No, the TRUE way to play is to never kill a soul. Anything else and you're missing the TRUE point of the game.
12788
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:30:49 PM »
Woah man, turns out a ridiculously high minimum wage is a bad idea. Better hate on unions for realizing this.
12789
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:26:06 PM »
"wtf if i kill all the characters in an area the music gets all depressing, is the game trying to tel me that killing every living thing i see has a major impact on how I interact with the world? talk about shoving it down my throat"
you're literally just scared of consequences.
More like the fact that there are two almost impossible to beat bosses solely designed to punish you for doing a genocide run, you can never get the good ending if you do it first (even though ruining the good ending by doing genocide second is objectively more immoral), and that Chara is set up to be this terrible person but didn't do anything as bad as Asgore. Those aren't realistic "consequences", they're meta mechanics solely put into place because the SJW creator is obsessed with "muh no one has to die tagline"
12790
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:03:22 PM »
Any country that imprisons people for their beliefs is a terrible, shitty country.
12791
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:01:51 PM »
also fuck this undyne battle lmao this is ridiculous
It's easy,
I took only 14 tries.
I've tried like 10 times and can't even get half her health down, going to take a break or something this dino kid is retarded btw, like obviously I'm the one she's after
12792
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:38:04 PM »
also fuck this undyne battle lmao this is ridiculous
12793
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:35:27 PM »
They're all written like they belong in homestuck, which means they all start to sound the same over time.
Also people like you are the reason why a lot of games have shitty, token "choices" that don't change the game's course or tone at all. If you don't want your choices to have consequences, then you might as well not be making any at all.
The fact you complain about characters being dynamic and responsive to your choices just tells me you don't understand good writing.
Hell, I'd do more then talk down to you if you started murdering people...
Not the characters, the game itself. The reactions from the characters are fine even if the characters thenselves are bad, but it's just the way the game preaches to you and drones on and on about how you're making a bad choice. Like how Sans says "you're not going to have a good time if you keep going this way" in a very meta sense.
Why even have the option to do a non peaceful run if the game is going to constantly cram in your face that that's the only right way to play it?
Maybe read through the thread next time
12794
« on: April 15, 2016, 10:44:18 AM »
yeah I already know most of the spoilers and what happens in the endings anyway
I'd rather help Chara destroy the world than save these annoyances
12795
« on: April 15, 2016, 10:18:08 AM »
Hell, I'd do more then talk down to you if you started murdering people...
Not the characters, the game itself. The reactions from the characters are fine even if the characters thenselves are bad, but it's just the way the game preaches to you and drones on and on about how you're making a bad choice. Like how Sans says "you're not going to have a good time if you keep going this way" in a very meta sense. Why even have the option to do a non peaceful run if the game is going to constantly cram in your face that that's the only right way to play it?
12796
« on: April 15, 2016, 07:41:17 AM »
Some of you may remember this thread, where I tried to play the game and didn't make it past the waterfall place. I expressed my distaste at the fact that while the game boasts choice-based gameplay, all but one choice is highly discouraged and the game itself talks down to you if you don't make that right choice. But the reason I wanted to do a genocide route in the first place was because of the characters. The skeleton brothers especially. Was the tall one supposed to be endearing? He was annoying. Anyway, I know the game has some wide cast of characters or whatever, so are the rest any better? I'm probably going to try my hand at this game again regardless, but if I just end up disliking everyone, a playthrough where I'm trying to preserve all of their lives seems tedious.
12797
« on: April 15, 2016, 05:26:23 AM »
12798
« on: April 15, 2016, 05:25:10 AM »
or, you know, it's bad because he watched porn on a work computer and whatnot.
oh my god, how dumb do you have to be to realize that the conversation with door wasn't just about the fucking person in the OP?
Yeah and I was talking about what the thread was about you stupid cunt
oh 
12799
« on: April 15, 2016, 02:58:21 AM »
You can blame PC culture and millennial brats for that
"Behold the face of tolerance in 2016 PC america.ο»Ώ"
couldn't get past the first five seconds
12800
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:48:24 AM »
I can't even imagine how closed-minded and stupid someone would have to be to believe that someone decided to write a script for a tv series, create and cast a black character, kill that character off in a way that forwards the plot, and all because they secretly hate black people. What kind of warped reality some people live in.
I've never actually run into criticisms like this but I've seen people complaining that there aren't enough black actors in a WW2 movie (which wouldn't be historically accurate) and Game of Thrones (which is supposed to be based on medieval Europe). Doesn't surprise me people like in the OP exist.
Exactly! If the writers really were racist, would they have Wells be this fantastic person and then a martyr? No, they'd have had him be a terrible person, a stereotype, and then had him live as the villain for 11 seasons. I feel like a big problem with the PC culture we live in is that no one seems to know what goes on in the mind of a real racist.
12801
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:29:51 AM »
or, you know, it's bad because he watched porn on a work computer and whatnot.
oh my god, how dumb do you have to be to realize that the conversation with door wasn't just about the fucking person in the OP?
12802
« on: April 15, 2016, 01:21:03 AM »
...it means the writers are racist? http://www.kissmywonderwoman.com/2015/02/the-100-and-untimely-death-of-wells-jaha.html?m=1I just read this article and it got me so mad. To sum it up, there's a black character on The 100 named Wells Jaha. I liked this character, he was fantastic. He also died in the third episode. I've been searching the web for analysises and tributes to the character, but only get articles like the one above. Articles that ask why he had to die. And then answer their own question with "well, because he was black and the writers are racist." But that's not why. The reason Wells died was the reason myself and everyone else liked him. Ironically enough, the article I take such greivance with is the one that states this reason: "So for three episodes we get to see Wells as this really compelling character. He's brave and generous and wonderful and kind and everyone despises him. He's literally that wonderful and amazing. And smart and good at tactics and protective, and pretty much the single best person on the show. So obviously, he had to die."Clearly that's not a sustainable character. He's the responsible one, the one who does the hard leadership jobs that no one wants to do while people like Bellamy take on the glamorous ones. The author of the article unintentionally hits the nail on the head here, and while her last line in what I quoted above is meant to be sarcastic, anyone with a modicum of storytelling knowledge could see that it's 100% true. So many conflicts down the line would be nonexistent if Wells was alive. He had to die, from the most basic plotting perspective.
Anyway, have you ever run into this problem in talking to people about ficticious works? Where the character's race has no bearing on anything, and yet the death of that character is somehow treated as inherently racist? Are we going to get to the point where story quality is comprimised for real world "values"?
12803
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:57:00 AM »
from now on I will only respond in 80s movie gifs
12804
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:55:46 AM »
i don't know, but i'll tell you what i'm gonna do:
i'm gonna go to sleep
i'm gonna wake up next morning
and i'm gonna tell myself,
"god, am i glad i'm not that dumb"
literally 60% of your posts are variations of "I'm better than you" does that ever get boring typing out borderline identical sentences all the fucking time?
12806
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:39:52 PM »
mehtta is obviously an alt tbh
yfw im not actually an alt
technically
my first account had less posts than this one and i abandoned after a few days years ago
or year ago
maybe two
I mean this is probably zen/solonoid/byrne or some shit
12807
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:36:20 PM »
mehtta is obviously an alt tbh
12808
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:24:50 PM »
There's nothing disgusting about natural behavior.
i don't think i called anyone disgusting--just what they're doing
yeah man nothing disgusting about rape, greed, or killing
12809
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:24:08 PM »
It's not some unforgivable thing to jack of to what you're attracted to, though.
Look at people with scat or vore fetishes. Are you going to sit there and call them disgusting people because they got terrible luck? Should they be compelled to not masturbate to what gets them off, while the rest of the world does it incessantly?
i don't think i called anyone disgusting--just what they're doing
Well, all sex/masturbation is disgusting when you break it down. What thoughts are going though someone's head while it's happening doesn't make it less or more so.
12810
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:18:19 PM »
Bungie, genius.
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