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The Flood / Re: Welp, let's do this again.
« on: April 21, 2016, 05:05:54 PM »
Wow

Is this really the drama of the day? Pip is using Verbatim's avatar, big fucking deal.
yeah, borderline impersonation and harassment for no good reason is no big deal
It's not impersonation. Impersonation has the motive of actually trying to be perceived as the other person, trying to trick others into thinking you're them.

Pip isn't talking like you, he didn't change his name to "Verbatim", he didn't make a new account with the ID "VerbatΔ±m". All of these things would constitute impersonation, not switching your avatar and using a gimmick name as a joke.

And if you seriously think this is harassment, you've just never been harrassed. It's a retarded idea and pretty cringy, but your reaction to it was far worse.

Literally not a big deal at all, and the fact you sincerely want him to be banned over what comes down to him using your avatar is ridiculously petty.

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The Flood / Re: Welp, let's do this again.
« on: April 21, 2016, 04:56:14 PM »
Wow

Is this really the drama of the day? Pip is using Verbatim's avatar, big fucking deal.

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The Flood / Re: Are AI becoming the new zombies?
« on: April 21, 2016, 05:00:26 AM »
AI has been in Fallout since the beginning

It's more AI in a human body that thinks it's human that's the issue. JHE, Skynet etc were all fully aware they were machines - Synths think they're human and that's the issue in FO4

sorry, just nitpicking

anyway I don't see what makes AI any different from heroes or zombies. The only difference is AI is relatively new and you're not tired of it yet.
No, the difference is that robots on Fallout are programmed to respond in specific ways to specific situations, where synths are "true" AI that can learn and feel legitimate emotion. That's why a Mr Handy or Sentry Bot stays in one place for hundreds of years, following its programming and guarding it. Why Codsworth waits at your house until the master he was programmed to follow reappears.

There's some ambiguity whether Gen 1 and 2 synths are more akin to this, but it's been confirmed that Gen 3's are human on every mental level.


And what makes AI different isn't that I'm not tired of them yet, its that the market itself hasn't completely been overwhelmed with AI media.

As a sidenote though, AI are a lot more interesting to me than either zombies or superheroes. Both are so boring IMO.

I wasn't talking about generic protectrons and sentry bots. I specifically said John Henry Eden, Skynet, that one AI from Fallout 1 (Name I can't remember) that were all fully self aware. John Henry Eden limited access to him beyond Autumn to maintain the illusion the President was a human for that reason. We've not seen a true AI in a sentry (or whatever) yet, to my knowledge. The ones we have seen have all been stationary requiring massive complexes and power sources to maintain. However, they were still in big computers, even if they were self aware. Synths are the first to have been put in a human body.

Honestly, the idea of synths creeps me out. I'm still not sure how I feel about research going down that path.
Oh, I see what you meant now.

And yeah, it seems the main problem with synths is the lack of transparency. With a ZAX computer, while it might be able to sound and behave like a human, it's obviously a computer. A synth can trick others into thinking otherwise. It is a scary kind of thing, and I see the Fallout universe being changed pretty dramatically past 4 because of them.

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im of the opinion that just about everyone currently immortalized on american coins and dollars needs to be replaced.
This is ridiculous. You don't start changing historical artifacts and memorials to suit the social climate of the time. For better or worse, those we honor through currency and names on buildings were important figures of the nation.
their stories should be taught to the people within their contexts. we shouldnt celebrate genocidal maniacs like jackson by spreading their image around via currency. this isnt like sandblasting the memorial on stone mountain. youre retarded.
I'm retarded? I'm not the one who sincerely thinks having someone's representation on a government artifact means the government condones what they did. We have an officially maintained Robert E. Lee memorial, because he was a big part of a huge, defining moment in our country's history. Andrew Jackson is no different.

There's no difference between a representation on a government bill and representation on a government memorial. If you think one necessitates acceptance of the person as a whole, then the other would also have to.
It's most definitely an implicit approval of his person. And yes, you are retarded, I dunno why you asked.
Oh my god, you're legitimately mentally slow in some way if you're not trolling right now. Historical monuments don't imply approval in any form, they exist solely to remember our past and where we've been. Greece has state-recognozed sites and monuments to ancient rulers; would you really say that's an approval of everything that historically displaced person ever did? I guess that means the nation of Greece doesn't have a problem with a torture device like the Brazen Bull.

When you apply this ridiculously liberal standard to representing historical figures in our monuments to any country that's not less than 300 years old, you see how the logic completely falls apart.

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im of the opinion that just about everyone currently immortalized on american coins and dollars needs to be replaced.
This is ridiculous. You don't start changing historical artifacts and memorials to suit the social climate of the time. For better or worse, those we honor through currency and names on buildings were important figures of the nation.
their stories should be taught to the people within their contexts. we shouldnt celebrate genocidal maniacs like jackson by spreading their image around via currency. this isnt like sandblasting the memorial on stone mountain. youre retarded.
I'm retarded? I'm not the one who sincerely thinks having someone's representation on a government artifact means the government condones what they did. We have an officially maintained Robert E. Lee memorial, because he was a big part of a huge, defining moment in our country's history. Andrew Jackson is no different.

There's no difference between a representation on a government bill and representation on a government memorial. If you think one necessitates an acceptance of the person as a whole, then the other would also have to.

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im of the opinion that just about everyone currently immortalized on american coins and dollars needs to be replaced.
This is ridiculous. You don't start changing historical artifacts and memorials to suit the social climate of the time. For better or worse, those we honor through currency and names on buildings were important figures of the nation.

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The Flood / Re: Which is worse?
« on: April 20, 2016, 04:42:45 PM »
DMV for sure.

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 04:41:11 PM »
The point is that I can get completely shitfaced/schwasted/blitzed out of my mind and I wont post anything like this thread because I'm a different type of person.
it's a fucking 420 post, jesus christ

everyone freaks out over nothing

If we don't have to see this when he's sober, then that's 100% all we care about, but I agree, he has an attitude issue... as well as a person issue where his personality and way of living is bad
I've been getting this a lot and I really don't know what to do

I guess I have a bad personality

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Just replace her with Abraham Lincoln on the $5. He already has the penny.

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:54:47 PM »
I can't imagine how much of a bad day verbo is having irl if he's acting like this over a 4/20 post on the internet

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:53:31 PM »
then don't bitch about how his post had nothing to do with yours, when it obviously did
but it didn't, because i'm on about the principle of sobriety itself

i honestly don't give a fuck about how you act while sober or otherwise

insobriety, in itself, should be bannable--regardless of how you behave
there should be a breathalyzer set built into every computer for situations like these

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:50:32 PM »
the point was that even if you ban non sober posting it wouldn't change the creation of threads like these because "The drug is only a catalyst to intensify an attitude that already exists."
do you actually believe that i give a single fuck
then don't bitch about how his post had nothing to do with yours, when it obviously did

is this damage control or something, I'm so confused

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:49:41 PM »
If there were 10 classes Secondclass would be Tenth class, because he's so atrocious
you know it's bad when the first class was someone else's throwaway alt

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:49:02 PM »
holy shit if you really couldn't understand what this means then you're not nearly as smart as you project yourself as
i understood exactly what he meant

the "uhhh" was because i haven't the ghostliest fucking idea just how it pertained to what i said at all
the point was that even if you ban non sober posting it wouldn't change the creation of threads like these because "The drug is only a catalyst to intensify an attitude that already exists."

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:45:50 PM »
we need to make a rule prohibiting non-sober posting
This type of thing is a result of personality. The drug is only a catalyst to intensify an attitude that already exists.
uhhhhhhh, okay

we need to make a rule prohibiting non-sober posting
holy shit if you really couldn't understand what this means then you're not nearly as smart as you project yourself as

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:44:57 PM »
we need to make a rule prohibiting non-sober posting
This type of thing is a result of personality. The drug is only a catalyst to intensify an attitude that already exists.
wow

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:39:54 PM »
we need to make a rule prohibiting non-sober posting
we need to make a rule prohibiting posts like these

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The Flood / Re: Are AI becoming the new zombies?
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:37:26 PM »
AI has been in Fallout since the beginning

It's more AI in a human body that thinks it's human that's the issue. JHE, Skynet etc were all fully aware they were machines - Synths think they're human and that's the issue in FO4

sorry, just nitpicking

anyway I don't see what makes AI any different from heroes or zombies. The only difference is AI is relatively new and you're not tired of it yet.
No, the difference is that robots on Fallout are programmed to respond in specific ways to specific situations, where synths are "true" AI that can learn and feel legitimate emotion. That's why a Mr Handy or Sentry Bot stays in one place for hundreds of years, following its programming and guarding it. Why Codsworth waits at your house until the master he was programmed to follow reappears.

There's some ambiguity whether Gen 1 and 2 synths are more akin to this, but it's been confirmed that Gen 3's are human on every mental level.


And what makes AI different isn't that I'm not tired of them yet, its that the market itself hasn't completely been overwhelmed with AI media.

As a sidenote though, AI are a lot more interesting to me than either zombies or superheroes. Both are so boring IMO.

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:31:00 PM »
With regard to the reform thing, threads like this should be locked.
wtf this thread is a geyser of discussion

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The Flood / Re: ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:29:32 PM »
Are you depressed or something? You're kinda pathetic as you've been for the past year or so.
I wonder what couldve precipitated that

but no man I'm fine, why aren't you high?

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The Flood / ayyyyyy
« on: April 20, 2016, 03:20:44 PM »
lol

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The Flood / Re: ITT make memes about the person above you.
« on: April 20, 2016, 12:26:15 AM »
RC Cola is better

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Serious / Re: "Exagerrated & vague strawman of some philosophy"
« on: April 19, 2016, 09:51:53 PM »
appeal to emotion

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The quote could be talking about 100,000 guilty men and you'd still be fucked up to disagree with it.

So with about 1.5 million inmates in the US,  an estimated 2.5% of whom are innocent, you would advocate releasing everyone currently incarcerated to give the innocent ones relief?
There's a point where even I would concede to doing immoral things, when they have to be done. That doesn't make the act any less wrong on a moral scale, but it's a necessary atrocity to prevent full-on chaos, which would be unjust towards the rest of the country. The real problem is how those 2.5% people who are in prison for something they never did got there in the first place.

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The Flood / Re: t breaks (hardcore drug users only)
« on: April 19, 2016, 08:01:44 PM »
i need to take a t break. my tolerance is off the charts and im burning through way too much bud.
Yeah they honestly really pay off. There's a point where you kinda have to take one or you're not even really getting stoned

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The Flood / Re: t breaks (hardcore drug users only)
« on: April 19, 2016, 07:56:00 PM »
"hardcore drug users only"

*talks about weed*

the loser drug

lmao get the fuck outta my thread, I'm taking over
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek

I was obviously being sardonic

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The Flood / Re: We need to reform the site [Semi-srs]
« on: April 19, 2016, 07:54:26 PM »
LMAO Please link posts of mine where I GO OUT OF MY WAY to be an EXTREME ASSHOLE😀😀😀
Here you go
Exactly

You're just mad you look exactly like Armen.
Lol, you're the one who's getting all defensive itt
Cause I'm getting sick of you acting better than everybody here when you're like the worst member here. You were gone for like 2 weeks and only one person noticed.

You were known for being a shitposter on b.net and now you're just a whiny shitposter.
the day I care whatsoever about my popularity on an internet forum is when I want to be put down
Yeah its not about popularity you illiterate fuck, its about the type of person you are.
How do I even act better than anyone else? What the fuck does that even mean? You don't know a thing about me.

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The Flood / Re: We need to reform the site [Semi-srs]
« on: April 19, 2016, 07:46:44 PM »
LMAO Please link posts of mine where I GO OUT OF MY WAY to be an EXTREME ASSHOLE😀😀😀
Here you go
Exactly

You're just mad you look exactly like Armen.
Lol, you're the one who's getting all defensive itt
Cause I'm getting sick of you acting better than everybody here when you're like the worst member here. You were gone for like 2 weeks and only one person noticed.

You were known for being a shitposter on b.net and now you're just a whiny shitposter.
the day I care whatsoever about my popularity on an internet forum is when I want to be put down

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The Flood / t breaks (hardcore drug users only)
« on: April 19, 2016, 07:43:57 PM »
no you know whos allowed

anyone else here ever like stop smoking for a week or two and then smoke when your tolerance is down?

I haven't done it since two fridays ago, but my roommate and I split the cost of an eighth today for that cliche stoner holiday tomorrow

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The Flood / Re: how old is everyone
« on: April 19, 2016, 07:39:16 PM »
Where the fuck is the picture thread where you posted. I swore you were 16-17 at the time.

The fuck?
He's fucking with you. He's my age.
harsh

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