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37621
« on: June 03, 2015, 08:26:47 PM »
>is literally the least megalomaniacal person ever
37622
« on: June 03, 2015, 08:24:03 PM »
37623
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:52:28 PM »
i'm just saying, if i yelled at him for the same reason, people would probably bitch at me for being "controlling" or whatever
it's okay when everyone else does it though
37624
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:51:29 PM »
is there gender-specific neural architecture?...
37625
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:47:45 PM »
if i did the same thing, people would call me an asshole
37626
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:24:58 PM »
the idea is to create an atmosphere for kids such that they wouldn't care about their identity
such that they wouldn't BECOME gender dysphoric
how would we do that? i don't know, but part of it is getting rid of transphobia
but that's what i'm saying
part of it also assumes the dysphoria isn't genetic, which, i don't see how something like that could be genetic
37627
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:20:39 PM »
Probably not, as this is akin to telling someone with allergies to just not be bothered by them, i really really don't think it is unless there's hard evidence to suggest that gender dysphoria is purely genetic, i don't think that's an apt comparison
37628
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:13:12 PM »
Well, it's fantastic. How do you even manage conditioning on that scale? I don't know. How did we teach kids not to be racist? Or homophobic? We can do the same thing with transphobia, as well as gender dysphoria. I wouldn't know exactly how, but the fact that we've been able to do it before with other social issues tells me something.
37629
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:09:41 PM »
Because if that's not what you people are saying, then I don't know what the fuck you're trying to say.
Apparently my solution is flawed in some invisible way that hasn't been explained to me at all.
"You should care about what body you were born with because ___________________________________________."
37630
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:04:07 PM »
I get the general idea--you're putting a square peg in a round hole.
I'm just saying though, if my square peg was put in a round hole tomorrow, I wouldn't care, and I think it would be fantastic if we could teach everyone else not to care, too.
It would be fucking fantastic if everyone was just content with their bodies. No more body dismorphia.
What it sounds to me is that you people are saying people should continue to have body dismorphia.
Why?
37631
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:01:31 PM »
>taking any post that says "psssh" seriously
37632
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:00:58 PM »
And for those who happen to be dysphoric to their own accord, we should teach them that it's perfectly okay to be born with the "wrong" body. It's not harmful, and it won't change their life all that much.
I don't see what the problem is there.
But when neurochemistry and the body's composition don't match up it's like using copper antiseize where nickel belongs, DOT5 in a DOT3 system, Tempest plugs in a Lycoming, a PC3 tuned for a Dyna on a CBR, etc...
I don't know what any of that means. Like I said earlier--how is it that I would be okay if I woke up as a woman tomorrow? How did I learn not to care? And why shouldn't we try to teach the same thing to other people?
37633
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:58:27 PM »
We should stop teaching children about the evils of racism in school.
That's like telling a depressed person to cheer up!
37634
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:53:55 PM »
We should also tell all the depressed people ''just cheer up'' and those naturaly inclined to be murderers that that's probably not a good idea. Im sure that will work. Completely incomparable disorders. I don't see any depressed children very often, either. That's the age of the people I'm talking about. This should be obvious.
37635
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:50:35 PM »
And for those who happen to be dysphoric to their own accord, we should teach them that it's perfectly okay to be born with the "wrong" body. It's not harmful, and it won't change their life all that much.
I don't see what the problem is there.
37636
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:46:34 PM »
Verb, come on, little boys don't turn transgender because someone picks on them for playing with dolls.
Some of them become dysphoric, though. All dysphoria means is that you're unsatisfied with your life for some reason or another. Of course that can result from social ostracization.
37637
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:44:33 PM »
I thought your goal was to exterminate all life in the universe to get rid of your teen angst the suffering caused by life Hence "if we must produce a society at all".
37638
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:42:31 PM »
I am saying people are going to care anyway No, they won't. Very few people care about your skin color, very few people care if you're homosexual. We can produce a society that doesn't care about gender identity.
37639
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:38:55 PM »
And hey, maybe you're just one of those people who could be fine with either side, but apparently I'm not one of them.
Well, my goal is to produce a society (if we must produce a society at all) to not be comprised of a bunch of bigoted shitheads who cause people to feel uneasy or insecure or dysphoric to the point where they question their identity. And if someone is going to question their identity, they'll do it out of curiosity and wonder, not fear. Apparently, that's a shitty idea though. I should really stop trivializing the issue! Whatever. Thank you for sharing your situation with me.
37640
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:36:37 PM »
And this is your problem. not everybody is a appatheric stick in the mud like you, and you cant seem to comprehend that So you're saying people SHOULD care? Why? So they can get depressed and kill themselves over it? Nice going.
37641
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:32:03 PM »
do you just not understand the concept of sexuality at all both men and women are sexual i don't see your point
37642
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:30:20 PM »
do you think i'd be upset if all of a sudden, my brain was put into a woman's body?
and that's not fucking trivializing the issue--i'm just trying to put into perspective the extent to which i don't give a fuck about my gender identity
it's meaningless to me, and it BAFFLES me as to why it isn't meaningless to anyone else
why would someone care about something so goddamn unimportant
37643
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:27:50 PM »
I have above average intelligence (tested in school), didn't have any other condition, hadn't had any behavioral problems, and such, so I really didn't want to jump through all those hoops and talk to a psychologist to prove I was sane and suffered from gender dysphoria when I had already figured out what was wrong with me. So when I was 18 I started doing low level DIY hormone replacement after researching dosages, side effects, and the like.
IDK what else to tell you, besides gender roles have very little to do with my problems (and I don't really have a feminine personality, either).
the question i'm asking is, essentially, what would having a female form honestly do for your life because i can't see how it would add anything i don't want to pry, if this is getting too personal, by the way i just don't see any value in having a male body or a female body--there's nothing
37644
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:23:51 PM »
If someone is uncomfertable with the body they are in due to a mental disorder they are gonna feel that way regardless of society. I don't think so, sorry. If you were the last person on earth, you wouldn't give a flying fuck what you looked like.
37645
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:20:52 PM »
This is just bizarre, by the way.
You people are telling me that bullying transfolk isn't irrational.
And wanting it to stop is trivializing the issue.
...HUH?
37646
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:18:22 PM »
And if my simple solution (teach future generations that it's okay to have whatever body you have, as well as ending the majority of discrimination that exists) isn't good enough, I wanna hear some better ones. Good fucking luck.
37647
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:14:42 PM »
You have no idea what it's like to have a mental disorder do you. (exept the one that makes you want to kill everyboby) >is depressed Yeah, I do. Thanks. It has nothing to do with rationality. We teach people to give a fuck about their bodies. That's my argument. That's OUR fault as a society. My solution: Stop.That is a bad solution how.
37648
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:11:52 PM »
That's the thing verb, we can't understand. We have nothing to compare the experience to... except maybe an extreme body image/eating disorder, but even that's a stretch when you get down to it.
So what the fuck is wrong with my solution, then?
37649
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:10:33 PM »
Trivializing the issue doesn't really help. Who's trivializing it? I'm just saying, I don't get it. There's no part of my brain that says, "Oh, I understand why someone would care if they were born with the wrong body, because it matters SO MUCH that you have the 'right body'." I don't... I don't. I don't. I can't.
37650
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:08:05 PM »
Verb, it's a disorder for a reason. i'm just saying, if i had the disorder, i would be able to live with it it would be so easy for me to get over it
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