jesus, look, it's not about being manly or whatever, it's about clear benefits. In that game you can dodge pretty much every attack with a roll, and rolling is more effective than blocking if you can get it down for a buncha reasons. Only thing holding you back from using this effective technique is your slow reaction time. For those who have decent reaction time and or learned the enemy patterns they can use more powerful weapons 'cause they've got both hands free

and have less fun with the game because they're utilizing a strategy they have no interest employing, because it doesn't match up with their preferred style of play

i bet you fucking pussies use weapons other than the hilt LMAO

i bet you do anything to your benefit at all ROFL

vien has gotten in trouble for less

i'm still in that fortunate yet precarious situation where i haven't really lost anybody too close to me

i say precarious because it's bound to happen any day now, and since i know it will destroy me when it happens, i feel like i've been constantly bracing myself for something tragic for the past five years—but i don't know if that's healthy either

i'm always seeing things that might have been describable as omens, if i believed in omens

If its the Tree of Ash then at the bottom is an endless lake with 2 hydras.....really pretty area actually.

Forget the items down there. But at the very end of the path you follow you find a huge dead dragon, you can pray to it and join a covenant.

i only asked because i already did all this

i was just a little massively disappointed, because i had a seed planted in my head for two years that i'd find something really cool here, and of course, i didn't

okay, there's that one time you have to jump when the floor breaks all around you after breaking the first thing

but falling into it and dying like i did is almost better, because it gets you out of that situation, and the orb stays broken

unless you just really want that deathless run, i guess—it's an easy jump if you're prepared for it, and you never really have to jump again as far as i remember

Just a boring uninteresting fight tbh, there's no sigh of relief after like some of the harder fights. Shit's just mad irritating. Also you keep referring to the bed as him.

the only other visually reasonable option is "it"

YouTube

this is the worst show in the world

thinking about making this thread again, but for western animation

it will be a lot more positive (especially with regards to disney)

but maybe that's boring and no one cares? idk

part of why i hate anime in general is because western animation is just SO MUCH better, and i thought it might be fun to explore that, even if it's redundant

to supplement my backwater internet forum experience i'm also a member of several sidewater forums

Gigaretards get BTFO’d. I banish you all back to /a/, where your shit tastes can thrive away from my Jojo-ears.

Kill yourself

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Quote from: Jono on July 09, 2018, 01:49:50 AM

She has to like ACDC, Tarantino movies, Star Wars, and let me tell her naughty things

okay roman

I understand the want to have things in common with a potential partner, but I've found that the differences between people actually makes conversation more interesting. Like it's nice to have those points of similarity, but music taste and especially movie taste? I feel like there's nothing there that's a deal breaker really.

That's in response to both of you but I included Verb because I wanted his take on the subject.

i 100% agree

i do have my dealbreakers—enough to probably ensure that i'll never be in a relationship, which is fine—but i would never want someone who's just a carbon copy of myself and my interests

having different tastes from your partner gives you more shit to do, as long as you're both open-minded—like, if you LOVE star wars, imagine introducing it to someone for the first time and getting to watch it together, that would be fucking delightful

and in turn, maybe they can open your mind to some shit you've never taken seriously before

that always seemed like the most fun part of a relationship to me—having this symbiotic mutual thing where you help each other grow and mature and shit

Neither are you. You've already lost this argument.

But I'm destroying you effortlessly?

The difference is one is locked on the disc and the other is legitimate extra content.

That's not a good enough difference. The location of the content shouldn't matter, and according to you, the game is still complete anyway and game developers deserve to extort consumers because they don't make enough money. You're a hypocrite.

Yes, the exact same Mario games over and over are really innovative. Physics in games haven't been improved at all. What a joke lmao.

Nintendo makes more than just Mario games.

Physics in games haven't been improved at all, no. Not in any significant way that makes my jaw drop, which is what I want. I want my jaw to fucking drop every time I play a new game. That's the standard. If I'm not floored at any point by what a game has to offer, it's basically a waste of time.

Except it isn't. It's exactly what you said, enough content to justify almost a whole new game sold for half the price of a new game. It's how ODST should've been priced.

It's actually the exact opposite of what I said, if you were paying attention. 8 new missions is an expansion on the same game, therefore not worth it. Enough content to justify a new game is not just fucking missions. It's literally a new engine, new physics, new characters, a new story, new graphics, new locations, new weapons, new multiplayer maps, all built from the ground up. That's a new game. That's what I want, and if DLC is anything less than that, you're being stolen from and the developers should be rounded up and shot for trying to sell it.

Or, you know, I meant everywhere else I had checked locally in my area. Or how Amazon also routinely sells games for cheaper than retailers. It's never $60 across the board. If you're legit still paying $60 for a new game, you're getting shafted.

So you know you're wrong and it wasn't the norm. It's $60 across the board. Exceptions never count.

This is a bad analogy because museums are generally cheap or even free, as "art belongs to the people". Games are art, too, but you don't just look at them hanging on a wall. It's something you play, it's a product.

I don't care if they're cheap, you often have to pay money regardless. DLC should be free—I don't care if it's a $0.01, it's extortion either way.

It's normal enough to be included in any conversation about pizza.

Nope. It's extremely abnormal. Not even worth bringing up.

In any case, maybe refunds should be added for DLC in the way Steam does it.

Not "maybe." Definitely.

The problem is that people can reap in-game benefits from DLC, though, so they could do that and then return it. It's almost like the entire concept is for fucking morons on every level.

This is your own personal opinion, though. Because there are plenty of people who enjoy all toppings.

Which is why the comparison DOESN'T WORK, because everyone would appreciate having access to all the DLC, even if they weren't interested in some parts of it. There are all these costumes you can buy your every character in Street Fighter V that I'm never going to buy, because wow what an extreme waste of money that would be. If I suddenly had access to all of them, I would be pretty fucking stoked—even though I only play as two or three characters out of the 30 character roster, so I wouldn't even be using most of those costumes. But I'd be happy that I'm still getting the content that I (and everyone else) is 100% entitled to.

So a building built before the advent of elevators isn't complete even though it's literally complete and construction is finished. Right.

Yes

But you're not really a consumer. You just want free shit.

No, I'm just someone who's hyperconscious of the amounts of money I'm spending, and I'm always making sure that I'm getting every penny of my money's worth whenever I buy absolutely anything, because wasting money is for fucking morons.

I never pay full-price for games, obviously, but if I did, I'd want $60 worth of content. But too bad, because it is a FACT, not an opinion, that 99% of games don't have $60 worth of content in them. $60 is a week's worth of food, so if I'm buying a piece of entertainment with that much, it better be one fucking brilliant game.

It never is. Maybe once or twice a year, I'll play a game like that. And even then, I always get it on sale anyway.

You realize a full meal costs more than just a single burger, right?

Yes, because I want the full game. I don't want just the single player experience (the burger). I want the multiplayer experience, too (the multiplayer). Then I want the DLC (fries) which shouldn't be DLC at all, but content that's just in the game.

There was a time when developers didn't cut content from their games and tell consumers that they designed it later, so that they aren't morally culpable for extortion. Thanks for being so gullible.

If a burger costs $1 fries and a drink would cost more. You don't just get fries and drink for the price of one burger.

What the fuck are you even babbling about now, this has nothing to do with anything that I'm saying.

Because I'm talking my plight as a 7 year old consumer seeing my cousin have more content than me in a game we both have, and me being unable to ever get the content unless I buy a GameCube and SA2B. DLC would've remedied the problem and been much cheaper. That highly benefits the consumer.

DLC would not have remedied the problem at all. How would it have? You're still not getting content that you want. You have to pay for it.

Do you enjoy wasting money on absolute bullshit? If so, why should anyone take your opinions on anything seriously? Why shouldn't I ignore you and care more about smart people who don't like wasting their money?

You didn't, though. $60 covers just the base game.

No, it covers what they TELL you is the base game. There is literally no reason to trust them—and even if there was, the game is guaranteed not worth $60 and they're duplicitous shitheads for trying to steal from you like that to begin with. They're all liars.

You're not entitled to try every game in existence if you can't afford to. That's just life.

Again, yes I am entitled, because everyone is entitled. I would take the fall for everyone else. If I were forced to pay 1000x for DLC for the rest of my life, and everyone else in the world got it for free, I'd take the fall for everyone else. That's how entitled I am.

Pirating games is trash, these people barely make that much money as it is.

Let me play the world's smallest violin for all the poor little game developers who could've made money doing anything else with their computer science degrees.

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No argument, you know I'm right.

It's the worst way to live. People who think society owes them something are the worst.

They're the only people who know what they deserve.

Butthurt law doesn't apply to everything, and you only accept it because you're under the impression everything sucks and developers owe you free games.

Everything does suck, and I don't want free games. I'll pay for everyone else's games so THEY can have free games.

A man who is never taken seriously.

I have no interest in being taken seriously by fucking idiots.

You've just been throwing a temper tantrum.

Smart people throw temper tantrums.

Because it's extra content that is good.

Not good enough to pay extra money for. Impossible.

Quote from: Verbatim on July 08, 2018, 03:57:19 AM

Struck down two more bosses—no points for guessing which ones. Boss video soon.

Hint: I'm not going to be fighting Gwyndolin, as I have no intention of betraying my covenant.

It's all a lie verbatim

Regardless of whether the Blades are actually good or actually evil, it would be out of character at this point. Maybe during the Switch playthrough, I'll do things differently.

Nobody is stealing anything from you unless we're talking about disc locked content.

There's no difference. Being against disc-locked content doesn't make sense if you're not going to be against all DLC. It would've been regular-ass downloadable content anyway if it weren't locked to the disc, so what difference does it really make? It's all cancer, you can't pick and choose what you like.

Games are much more advanced these days, are you kidding me?

They're not, not in any impressive ways anymore. Knowing you, you only care about graphics or some shit. Graphics stopped being impressive a long time ago, and I'll go back to the 8-bit era for all I care about graphics. There's more to games than just that.

It cost me $1 but the regular price these days is $5, and when it was released it was $30. So pretty much half a game for the same rate. Seems fair to me. 8 missions, 4 new multiplayer maps, 2 new game modes and 9 new weapons.

Only if the missions are the only thing that has any value to you about the game, and nothing else. Which is foolish. That game isn't worth $60, maybe $25 at best. You were stolen from.

]Where are the publishers supposed to get money from if there's no money to be made from sales?

If they're a good publisher, they won't have to worry about that.

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Stupid, foolish, mental midget
Your IQ is double digit

It may be cheap but it's still a compete car.

>compete

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Also, no it isn't. It's a completely functioning car, but that doesn't mean anything. How much did you pay for it? Cars vary in terms of price, especially from dealer to dealer, and that's why they aren't comparable to video games. Because the market says they're all worth the same price (and therefore, have the same amount of value in content). Which is retarded.

You're really not missing out on anything, trust me.

I don't care. It could be the fucking shittiest and most disappointing DLC ever, and I won't care. I don't play games to have fun, I play them to experience art—and if some aspects of it are locked out, I'm not getting a complete picture of the painting, and I have every fucking right to be pissed off about it.

How would you like it if you visited the Louvre, but when you got to the Mona Lisa, you noticed they covered it up with a curtain. Your tour guide tells you that you aren't worthy to gaze upon this painting unless you pay an extra fee—you've already paid to visit this museum, and now you're being obliged to pay extra to see one more painting. Maybe not even the Mona Lisa—one entire section of the museum is sequestered off, and you only have access to it if you pay.

Would that be okay with you?

Plenty of people eat pizzas with all the toppings available. Try again.

No, they don't. Nobody. Maybe you do, because you're gross and fat or something, but no normal person does this.

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If you don't like pineapple, you don't put it on your pizza. If it's on your pizza, you return it.

Then why the hell did you order all the toppings?

uhhhh

I didn't. Read that sentence again.

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If you don't like a DLC, but you still have it because you bought the GOTY edition, you don't have to access it.

wtf? You paid for it anyways this doesn't make any sense.

It makes perfect sense, and I have no idea what you're even struggling with. What I'm saying isn't hard.

Nope, extra. It's an addition. An expansion. If a building is expanded, it doesn't mean it wasn't a complete building before, it simply has had an expansion.

That building wasn't completed before.

You can't add to something if it's already finished. That's what the fucking word means. If you honestly expect to change my mind on this, you never ever will, so you might as well give up the ghost now if you SERIOUSLY think that you can change the definition of words that brutally. I get accused of doing the same thing, but never to that extent.

It's an expansion added after the fact. How many times do I need to say this?

You can say it 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0000,000,000,000,000 more times, and it still won't make it a reality. I don't care if it's added after the fact. It's an unacceptable practice that should never be done.

No game is worth $60, so the fact that anyone should be expected to pay MORE than $60 for a complete game experience when most games aren't worth $30 is completely asinine, and what you're basically doing here is saying consumers should be relentlessly fucked for every nickle and dime they can swallow. And I'm supposed to agree with you. I'm supposed to love DLC and think it's this great thing.

You just did. You said "all the more reason to not fucking bother" when I said devs don't make a killing on DLC. So you admit they're not greedy.

Just because you don't make a lot of money doing something doesn't mean you can't be greedy. What kind of retarded shit is that?

So, again, why should all this stuff be free? Nobody owes you anything. They worked hard on the DLC, they deserved to be paid.

Nobody owes ME anything, not personally.

Every single player is owed the DLC, though, if they already paid full price for the game. It's not just about me.

In fact, I'll take the fall for my cause—all DLC should be free for EVERYONE except for me. I'll vow to pay for every DLC from this point on if it means that everyone can have it for free tomorrow. Now you can't play this retarded "you're so entitled" game, as if being entitled is at all a bad thing. It's GOOD to be entitled.

But no, they do deserve to be paid. For the base game. Which I did already.
 

>less content = better
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Yes. Less content = less money being extorted = objectively better. Yes.

Sorry I don't look at the past through rose tinted glasses. It sure was awesome that my cousin had more content in Sonic Adventure 2 because he had the GameCube version. Content I couldn't access because I had it on the Dreamcast and there was no DLC.

Whatever, that game is booboo buttcheeks anyway.

Then you're conflating the two. Paying for DLC isn't tipping. It's paying for the meal.

LMAO

No, paying for the base game is paying for the meal. DLC is like having to pay for refills.

That's ridiculous. In this modern age where you can find entire playthroughs of a game on YouTube. Come on man.

It's not the same, I have to play it for myself. It's not like a movie, where I can see a clip and see if it looks interesting to me. Games are interactive, and if I can't interact with it, then I don't really know what the game is like.

Most of my favorite games probably looked uninteresting as fuck to me when I first saw gameplay of them. It was only until I played it for myself that I realized how awesome they actually were.

You're right, I should just hack Microsoft and get the DLC for free. I shouldn't ever have to pay people for things they make and are selling.

Probably

Or just don't buy shitty DLC and shit like gun skins.

It's all shit. If you're saying I can judge it all without playing it myself, then I'm judging it by not playing it myself.

It's all shit, and you're all fucking stupid for buying into it.

If you look at any movement ever, extremists almost always end up failing.

They fail, but they succeed in spreading the meme. The game isn't to succeed, that would be a waste of life. There are better hills to die on.

Unless it's a shitty game you're getting $60 worth of content.

And 90% of games are shitty.

The 10% of games that aren't shitty don't have $60 worth of content, either. Maybe $50 tops.

Then there's the magic 0.001% of games that really are worth $60, or above and beyond that.

You can't base the industry on outliers like this.

I have played a ton of games worth that much where I get hundreds of hours of enjoyment.

That's because you're not a discerning consumer, and you're not interested in games as an art form. You're just in it to have fun. You're the consumer that the industry wants.

My main point has always been that DLC in and of itself is not a bad thing.

If it were all free, I'd agree with you.

You can know. Just look up gameplay and ask people.

Do you really think I can trust anyone's fucking shit-ass opinions on fucking anything? You serious?

You get full games. Acting like you're entitled to extra content the developers make after the game is finished, and that it should be free, is ridiculous.

I am entitled to extra content, because without it, I'm not getting a full game.

This is why I said don't bother to argue with me on this. I haven't budged an inch, and I'm only ever going to double down on this. I know I'm right, I know everyone else is wrong. Nothing will change. You're wasting your time and fucking up my thread.