Fair, I dont consider myself racist but using a phrase like 'oh shit nigga' is one that can be used in my group from time to time, that being said it has eased up a hell of a lot these past few years. Im comfortable with the phrase, of course you dont say it to just anyone. That being said wasnt aware it wasnt all that uncommon.

And I said it as more of a satirical sense not racial, but this was way back when and we've all become a lot more careful these days.

I just want to add that jokingly going "oh shit nigga" is absolutely not the same or comparable to literally saying "you fucking nigger" at someone because you're upset and want to lash out.

Either way, I just think influencers like Pewdiepie (because I'm really not talking about just him) should take more responsibility and be proactive about countering this stuff in their communities. It seems like crazy talk that gaming and meme youtubers can lead people to radical political opinions, but several leadership figures within the alt right like Bannon (Trump's former campaign manager) and the Stormfront admins have openly talked about how this is one of their most successful recruitment techniques and that Pewdiepie is one of /ourguys/ who fosters an edgy counter-culture that's the perfect breeding ground for people to normalize racism, sexism, conspiracy theories and such under the guise of jokes and memes aimed at an impressionable audience that is gradually introduced to ever more hardline and divisive political content. And all of that is definitely something worth discussing.

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Quote from: Boomdeyadah on March 15, 2019, 01:05:51 PM

We live in a timeline where we can now watch a schizo maniac shoot up a mosque via a gopro who at the same time tells us to all subscribe to PewDiePie

I would clap if someone blew up the EU HQ.

I know you're just a troll, but you're headed for a permaban with posts like this. Regardless of who the victim is or where the attack is aimed at, I'm not going to tolerate support for terrorist attacks on this forum. You can consider this a final warning.

Can't you already just do it though? What's the point if they're just going to tightrope the line between piece of shit who doesn't break the rules and dumbfuck who does?

I'm not going to make that decision by myself. If enough people decide he's just a troll trying to bait people and offers no discussion value, then sure.

Quote from: Aether on March 15, 2019, 09:04:32 PM

I get the sentiment, but neither of you are really proposing any alternatives. We can't just not explore and discuss the shooter's background or motivations and analyze what led to this happening because that's what he would've wanted. When something like this happens, we try to explain and understand it so we can prevent it from happening again. That's a normal and good thing that does require us to ask the difficult questions and at times even point fingers.

Of course, personal attacks are rarely called for but the shooter will succeed at his mission just the same if no one looks into the how and why while his manifesto gets spread around these hateful communities and the sick parts of the web. Our politics are little more than the manifestation of our values and the way we see society, and there's nothing wrong with people reacting to these events accordingly when they see flaws and problems.These events and the reasons behind them are usually very complicated. You say that the people are looking at gun laws, online influencers, forums breeding hate, subtle radicalization and such but are somehow missing the real problem? These things are very likely part of the problem and should be talked about.

You can't detach this massacre from how loose gun laws might have allowed him to get the weapons he needed to carry out the attack. It's likely that the shooter deliberately planned his attack in NZ because its permissive gun policy would allow him to get guns he couldn't get in Australia, so why should this not be part of the debate or solution?

You can't look at the recent rise of hate crimes in the West and think of it as unrelated to how some of our leaders advocate vigilantes getting tough against minorities which are mounting an "invasion" of our countries to bring in nothing but bad guys and rapists from shithole countries. Pushing such a hostile narrative that denounces these people as little more than enemies normalizes combative and aggressive attitudes, so why should that not be discussed or condemned?

You can't ignore how admins at Stormfront and people like Steve Bannon have repeatedly talked about how online influencers like Pewdiepie and the "alternative media", alt right / lite content creators and the farce that is the "intellectual dark web" of people like Tim Pool, Sargon, Peterson and that whole bunch are some of the best recruitment methods they have to draw people into rabbit holes that start with slanted and leading questions on serious topics, le epic gamer maymays and casual racist / xenophobic remarks. These people definitely play a part in normalizing conspiracies, mistrust and hostility against "the other", and they massively contribute to introducing impressionable people to an edgy counter-culture that is rife with hateful, misleading and harmful shit which pushes many towards more extreme and radical content (it's only a few easy clicks to get from Pewdiepie to his promoted channels which question the holocaust and rally against SJWs ruining everything to epic Shapiro owned compilations to Alex Jones talking about how liberals fake mass shootings to steal guns and protect brown people who rape our women). Why is this not something we can talk about as potentially part of this problem?

Instead, you dismiss this as people missing the point and just attacking each other when the "real problem" is that this was just a lunatic. A crazy man on a rampage. A problem that you might suggest we deal with just by improving our mental health care, without realizing that this man might be a loner who lives by himself, goes to his menial work and spends his free nights talking to likeminded people in the communities I just mentioned. He's not going to just go see a shrink - he doesn't think there's anything wrong with him. These thoughts he keeps having? They're justified, of course. Why can't he yell "nigger" at people? Damn SJWs, Sargon was right all along. These brown people on the street? Ugh, Trump's so right in saying this is an invasion we need to put an end to by radical means. What's the mental health system going to do for someone him? How many mentally ill people never even consider something like this? What's different about this guy?

People are very right in looking for solutions to these complicated problems. This wasn't just a mentally ill man. There's a lot that went into radicalizing him to this point. It's absolutely fair for people to question how laws, influencers, forums and narratives played a part in this massacre. And while that behavior can definitely cross a line, it's definitely not something you can dismiss as "look at the X, back at it again politicizing these things for their own narrative while ignoring what actually matters".

Pretty distressing stuff, considering how tight gun laws are there and here, the video showed him with a modified Shotgun, Pistol and an AR, how he got one is nuts...

If I'm not mistaken, gun laws in New Zealand are pretty loose compared to Australia. There's strong suspicion right now that the shooter deliberately moved to NZ for the attack because he'd have access to the guns he wanted there.

It's more or less required, right? It's going to be slightly contradictory either way. Say there's universal freedom of movement, but also right to privacy on your own property - trespassing is a violation of the latter right, but if you forbid it then you don't have the first right. You have to find the balance that has the best outcome overall. Sort of like the Paradox of tolerance.

Very true, but this is more about deliberately (mis)using rights to indirectly undermine those of others and betray some of the core values of our society. That's why it's usually referring to the right of free speech and situations in which people are exercising their rights for the sole purpose of destroying those of others. What you say is indeed common sense ("your rights end where mine begin") as my freedom to walk down the street and swing my fists around doesn't give me the ability to punch you in the face and violate your right to autonomy and integrity, but what about situations where someone uses their rights to free speech, assembly, vote and such to actively seek out the destruction of others? Is or should my free speech still be protected if I use it to call for minorities to lose their right to vote, speak, have a private life, assemble, have their own religion and so on?

how am i supposed to rally for 2A repeal now

The US Constitution does not have an abuse of rights clause so go right ahead. The country is also the sole outlier in considering gun ownership a human right as opposed to the universally accepted ones of privacy, speech, fair trial, equal treatment, assembly and such, so all the more reason to go for it.

Best possible outcome of the day, I suppose.

This Russian bot was just too intriguing to remove. Anyone wants to bet on what he's on about?

I personally plan on striving for higher end jobs so that emergency funds aren't crippling and eventually get to the point where I can handle a $10k unforeseen cost. That's just me however, I have no idea how a burger flipper at McDonald's who's content in their position plans on paying for a $10k emergency bar praying to a higher deity.

Quote from: Flee on February 27, 2019, 03:47:08 AM

Do you guys see this changing any time soon and do you have plans to accomplish that?

My guess would be that few people in that position are content in staying there forever.

So I'm gathering there's around 4 people who could and 5 who couldn't pay a $1000 emergency without having to go into debt. That's (slightly) beating the odds.

Do you guys see this changing any time soon and do you have plans to accomplish that?

Title says it all. This has been on my mind after reading Kernel's thread about how he'd struggle to afford $700 to register his truck. As you might know, this isn't uncommon at all. Some reports have found that over 60% of Americans are unable to cover unexpected costs or emergencies of over a thousand dollars, which is pretty staggering. I looked it up for my own country as well and found that those numbers are far lower (around 20%) but still too high not to be cause for concern.

So I figured I'd ask you guys the same. If you had to pay $500 for some unforseen circumstances (medical costs, home repairs, unexpected bills, loss of a job...), would you struggle doing so? What about $1000? $5000? $10,000? If not, how do you think you'd manage? Ask family / friends to lend you the money, take out a loan, sell some things, take on a second job, dig into your savings?

I can't see this going anywhere. Wrongful birth / life cases are nothing new and some of them have been accepted in the past, but they all came from people who were born despite their parents being aware of a serious defect. I don't think I've ever heard of a case where a wrongful birth claim was brought just on the basis of being born (healthy).

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on February 05, 2019, 08:52:34 PM

As for the turning problem, I suffer from that too. Since I main Samus I can kinda use my b attacks as a crutch to turn but it's rare I manage to pull that off anyway. I'd also like advise about that if you've got it, Verb.

i dunno, for me it's a simple matter of tilting the stick in the right direction

if you're unable to turn around while recovering, you just have to be conscience of what direction you're tilting as you do the up+b

if you're too far in the neutral upward position, you're gonna do it in the wrong direction—you have to make sure that the stick is being tilted a considerable amount in the direction you want, but not so much that you'll be performing a side+b by mistake

if you use a gamecube controller or something with a gated stick, use it to your advantage, i've never tilted a stick upward in any direction diagonally without getting the exact up+b that i want

It's not just the recovery though, it happens in other situations as well. Say you block facing left while your opponent is to your right. You drop the block, move the directional stick to face towards the right, and hit the grab button or attack right after. It happens quite often that the turnaround input just doesn't get picked up and that I end up doing the attack or grab while still facing the wrong way even though I already moved the direction stick. I don't know if it's because of the input delay, the way the game (doesn't) buffer certain inputs or prioritizes some over others, or if I'm just not getting something, but it's something strange nevertheless. The movement just doesn't feel as tight as it could be, imo. You also sometimes see it if you want to quickly turn around in midair, let go off the stick again and then do a neutral air attack, but the input seems to linger long enough so that it still registers as a back air. I'm definitely willing to admit to some user error here but I've seen a bunch of people talk about the same problem. I guess it's just something that you learn to play around by getting used to the timings and how the inputs string together (seeing how pros and good players manage just fine), but it is something I think could still be better.

I'll give the diagonal up Bs a try though, thanks.

The one thing I know I'm still bad at is fighting off stage. I only recently started trying it and it more often than not just ends in me killing myself. I hop off, go in for a swing and by the time I can recover with up B I'm already so far below the stage I can't back. I suppose it's probably because I should try to walk off rather than jump so I keep that extra jump after the attack, and that I should be careful with holding down to drop faster as it'll put me very low before I can start recovering.

Three things:

Is there any standard by which you can assess whether or not you're an even remotely decent player offline? I hardly play the game so have no illusions about where I'm at but is there anything that can tell how good you are? I've yet to lose a game against a level 8 CPU, if that says anything. Just a question out of curiosity.

How does attack priority work? Say I strike down above someone who does an up B. Is there any consistency in terms of who gets the hit? I feel like I've seen both outcomes all frequently. Sometimes the attacks cancel each other out but otherwise one just wins and gets priority. Is this whoever does the stronger attack, executes it later...?

What is up with input delay on movement? It's hands down one of the worst parts of this game unless there's something you can do about it in the settings or whatever. I regularly feel like I'm attacking facing left, hit the thumbstick to turn the other way around and then attack, and it'll just come out still going left. Killed myself several times doing up b the wrong direction because the controls feel very floaty in that regard. Am I doing something wrong or is this just something you learn to play around?