one of my friends best friend died  in the bombing

I talked to him about it, but this is really shit

Do any of you have any idea how ugly deportation is? Of course you don't. You think people are kindly escorted out of the country on an air conditioned bus. Human rights are constantly violated and the places illegal immigrants are imprisoned in prior to deportation they're subject to what can be considered torture from sadistic guards.

You guys really think a Muslim version of the trail of tears is a solution? You're out of your fucking minds.

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on May 24, 2017, 07:34:27 AM

Don't have to deport muslims. You can just say you are not allowed to practice Islam here. If they ask why you can just say because we are not allowed to practice our religion in their country.

You can in a lot of those nations though

You can think of a better reason than that

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on May 26, 2017, 05:46:25 AM

Allow muslim refugees to enter your country if they sign a deal paper where they promise to give up Islam. Deport them if they break this promise.

So essentially; ban law-abiding citizens from practicing freedom of religion?

Because if someone's a terrorist, they'd already, you know, do their terror thing before they could be deported

And besides, that's extremely unconstitutional, a word that I thought you right-leaning folk shat their pants at the implications of.

Quote from: Cindy on May 26, 2017, 05:14:16 AM

Also, how would "stop Muslims from practicing Islam" accomplish literally anything?

You guys know that there are literally passages in the Quran that state that you're allowed to lie about your religion if you are being persecuted for it, and that masquerading as a non-Muslim in such a case is a righteous and holy thing to do, right?

Of course you don't, because you don't know the first thing about Islam and assume the Quran just says "kill whities and rape women" for hundreds of pages and then ends.

Taqiyya is more of a Shia thing. And at the same time it's not something you would see happen because if the American government were to start shutting down mosques and banning Islam it would be more important to practice jihad, not taqiyya. To practice jihad is to struggle in the name of Islam.

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on May 26, 2017, 06:17:59 AM

Quote from: Cindy on May 26, 2017, 05:51:11 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on May 26, 2017, 05:46:25 AM

Allow muslim refugees to enter your country if they sign a deal paper where they promise to give up Islam. Deport them if they break this promise.

So essentially; ban law-abiding citizens from practicing freedom of religion?

Because if someone's a terrorist, they'd already, you know, do their terror thing before they could be deported

And besides, that's extremely unconstitutional, a word that I thought you right-leaning folk shat their pants at the implications of.

Islam ban would be justified because we are not allowed to practice christianity in muslim majority countries.

Lmao literally toddler logic

Apparently it's okay to be unconstitutional but only if other people are being meanies?

Quote from: Cindy on May 26, 2017, 07:12:30 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on May 26, 2017, 06:17:59 AM

Quote from: Cindy on May 26, 2017, 05:51:11 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on May 26, 2017, 05:46:25 AM

Allow muslim refugees to enter your country if they sign a deal paper where they promise to give up Islam. Deport them if they break this promise.

So essentially; ban law-abiding citizens from practicing freedom of religion?

Because if someone's a terrorist, they'd already, you know, do their terror thing before they could be deported

And besides, that's extremely unconstitutional, a word that I thought you right-leaning folk shat their pants at the implications of.

Islam ban would be justified because we are not allowed to practice christianity in muslim majority countries.

Lmao literally toddler logic

Apparently it's okay to be unconstitutional but only if other people are being meanies?

When have liberals cared about the constitution? Islam is a violent religion. It cannot be allowed no longer.

Of course you don't, because you don't know the first thing about Islam and assume the Quran just says "kill whities and rape women" for hundreds of pages and then ends.

Quote from: Cindy on May 26, 2017, 05:14:16 AM

Of course you don't, because you don't know the first thing about Islam and assume the Quran just says "kill whities and rape women" for hundreds of pages and then ends.

There are quite a substantial amount of passages about violence and conquering, though.

The sparse peaceful verses that do exist are only superseded by the violent ones, and that's only because the peaceful passages are referring to practising Muslims.

Yeah, the Q'uran might not be the serial killing cookbook Trumpanzees make it out to be, but it's not inaccurate to say it's a heavily violent book.

Quote from: The Hidden Gabber on May 26, 2017, 08:59:37 AM

Quote from: Cindy on May 26, 2017, 05:14:16 AM

Of course you don't, because you don't know the first thing about Islam and assume the Quran just says "kill whities and rape women" for hundreds of pages and then ends.

There are quite a substantial amount of passages about violence and conquering, though.

The sparse peaceful verses that do exist are only superseded by the violent ones, and that's only because the peaceful passages are referring to practising Muslims.

Yeah, the Q'uran might not be the serial killing cookbook Trumpanzees make it out to be, but it's not inaccurate to say it's a heavily violent book.

Well yeah, but so is every other Judaic religion's book

Religion as a whole and especially Abrahamic religions are hot garbage and need to go, but the way idiots assume that every Muslim is a terrorist because "muh violent book" is retarded as fuck. You can find shit equally as bad if not worse in the Torah and New Testament as you can in the Quran.