Hate to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
Quote from: The Hidden Gabber on May 23, 2017, 07:24:16 PMQuote from: 🅱🅾🅾🅿 on May 23, 2017, 07:19:20 PMHate to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.The guy was a home grown terrorist though. The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.So then how do you propose stopping these home grown terrorists, and why is it that countries who haven't accepted any refugees haven't had these same problems? It goes beyond just the terrorist attacks, crime in general has gone up too.
Quote from: 🅱🅾🅾🅿 on May 23, 2017, 07:19:20 PMHate to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.The guy was a home grown terrorist though. The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.
Quote from: The Hidden Gabber on May 23, 2017, 07:24:16 PMQuote from: 🅱🅾🅾🅿 on May 23, 2017, 07:19:20 PMHate to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.The guy was a home grown terrorist though. The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.The home grown terrorists are usually the sons of displaced people from wars in the 90's. They usually weren't wholly integrated in to their birth nation's society since their parents statistically most likely settled down around others of their kind, and recent tensions causes them to seek out freshly imported Islamic refugees to associate with, where they are further exposed to more raw or non-westernized Islamic ideas. They finally find a community that they feel most at home with, and radicalize themselves out of frustration for having been born in a nation that distrusts or dislikes them. The attackers aren't refugees, but Muslim migration to the west is without a doubt related to their actions.
it's gotten the point when I hear or some sort of attack in ___ I automatically assume it's related to islam. every time. again, and again.
Fucking nanny states
Quote from: Batch on May 24, 2017, 05:43:38 AMFucking nanny states lolSame shit, right?
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 24, 2017, 05:58:44 AMQuote from: Batch on May 24, 2017, 05:43:38 AMFucking nanny states lolSame shit, right?Nah brah.Sikhism was created as a militant response to Muslim agression around eastern India.
Quote from: The Hidden Gabber on May 23, 2017, 07:45:07 PMI agree that immigration needs restricting, but the solution to terrorist activities isn't to hound out people who have lived here for generations just because they subscribe to a set of belief systems, however immoral they may be.So you're okay with allowing people who believe in a religion that refers to non-believers as infidels, and that infidels should be killed to live in your country when you know for a fact that these sort of attacks, conducted by people of this religion, aren't going to stop? You're okay with these same people who treat your women like disposable garbage because to them they are whores and impure, simply for not following their religious standards? You're okay with these people who hate your country and westernism as a whole?Morals have already been thrown out of the window.
I agree that immigration needs restricting, but the solution to terrorist activities isn't to hound out people who have lived here for generations just because they subscribe to a set of belief systems, however immoral they may be.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 24, 2017, 06:57:16 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 24, 2017, 05:58:44 AMQuote from: Batch on May 24, 2017, 05:43:38 AMFucking nanny states lolSame shit, right?Nah brah.Sikhism was created as a militant response to Muslim agression around eastern India.I wasn't being serious there. Sort of quoting what the (((journalists))) thought.
So then how do you propose stopping these home grown terrorists, and why is it that countries who haven't accepted any refugees haven't had these same problems? It goes beyond just the terrorist attacks, crime in general has gone up too.
Don't have to deport muslims. You can just say you are not allowed to practice Islam here. If they ask why you can just say because we are not allowed to practice our religion in their country.
Quote from: 🅱🅾🅾🅿 on May 23, 2017, 07:26:54 PMSo then how do you propose stopping these home grown terrorists, and why is it that countries who haven't accepted any refugees haven't had these same problems? It goes beyond just the terrorist attacks, crime in general has gone up too.See my post above. "But X doesn't have the same problems" is a flawed argument. Countries that didn't let in refugees still see terrorist attacks (see Hungary in 2016) and others that do account for immigrants (Bulgaria, Austria) haven't. These attacks are aimed at high profile Western targets and I don't see a sufficient case made that it's countries letting in refugees which causes these attacks.And immigrants causing crime to go up is also such a shoddy and incorrect argument. There are plenty of studies out there on the lack of strong links between immigration and crime, and there's even more and more and more and more and even more analyses out there on how what you say does not hold true for the current situation in Europe. As for some examples of countries which have taken in refugees:Belgium - Lowest crime rates in 20 years.EU as a whole - Crime rates dropped as a whole, in particular for assault, theft, homicide, robbery, burglarly.Germany - Violent and general crime rates continue to fall ever more despite the influx of immigrants.Sweden - effects of immigration on crime are small and crime stats of the most recent year are virtually identical to the year before while violent and most other forms of crime are lower than they were before the influx of immigrants.
Do any of you have any idea how ugly deportation is? Of course you don't. You think people are kindly escorted out of the country on an air conditioned bus. Human rights are constantly violated and the places illegal immigrants are imprisoned in prior to deportation they're subject to what can be considered torture from sadistic guards.You guys really think a Muslim version of the trail of tears is a solution? You're out of your fucking minds.
Explosion in Manchester at a concert
