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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!

Out of all 6 events that are considered terrorist attacks having taken place in the UK since 2010, 2 were committed by right-wing extremists and 4 by British citizens (one of which suffered from major psychosis and paranoia). Not a single one was committed by a refugee, and these stats are similar for continental Europe. I'm not too pro-immigration myself, but this meme that it's refugees being responsible for these attacks is just wrong.
Poland doesn't take refugees and they've had no attacks happen to them, same with Hungary.


 
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I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.


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Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
The guy was a home grown terrorist though.

The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.

There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
The guy was a home grown terrorist though.

The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.

There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.
So then how do you propose stopping these home grown terrorists, and why is it that countries who haven't accepted any refugees haven't had these same problems? It goes beyond just the terrorist attacks, crime in general has gone up too.


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Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
The guy was a home grown terrorist though.

The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.

There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.
So then how do you propose stopping these home grown terrorists, and why is it that countries who haven't accepted any refugees haven't had these same problems? It goes beyond just the terrorist attacks, crime in general has gone up too.
Well I'm not a counter terrorist expert, but targeting the hot beds of radicalisation such as prisons and mosques would be a start. Rehabilitation centres where extremists can be deradicalised by exposing potential terrorists and Islamists who wish to leave their organisations. Tackle the Westophobic ideological influences and social insularity within Muslim communities by Muslims themselves whilst simultaneously, an active focus towards creating an inclusive national identity to be adopted by all members of society.

The reason the countries you are presumably alluding to haven't experienced terrorism in recent history is because they don't have significantly insular Muslim populations. However, that doesn't mean the solution is to deport all the Muzzies. They're here now as citizens of these countries, so what's done is done, and the prospect of rounding them up and sending them packing on boats not only presents a seismic logistical problem, but a moral one as well. I agree that immigration needs restricting, but the solution to terrorist activities isn't to hound out people who have lived here for generations just because they subscribe to a set of belief systems, however immoral they may be.
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Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
The guy was a home grown terrorist though.

The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.

There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.
The home grown terrorists are usually the sons of displaced people from wars in the 90's. They usually weren't wholly integrated in to their birth nation's society since their parents statistically most likely settled down around others of their kind, and recent tensions causes them to seek out freshly imported Islamic refugees to associate with, where they are further exposed to more raw or non-westernized Islamic ideas. They finally find a community that they feel most at home with, and radicalize themselves out of frustration for having been born in a nation that distrusts or dislikes them.

The attackers aren't refugees, but Muslim migration to the west is without a doubt related to their actions.


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it's gotten the point when I hear or some sort of attack in Europe I automatically assume it's related to islam. every time. again, and again.


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Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
The guy was a home grown terrorist though.

The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.

There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.
The home grown terrorists are usually the sons of displaced people from wars in the 90's. They usually weren't wholly integrated in to their birth nation's society since their parents statistically most likely settled down around others of their kind, and recent tensions causes them to seek out freshly imported Islamic refugees to associate with, where they are further exposed to more raw or non-westernized Islamic ideas. They finally find a community that they feel most at home with, and radicalize themselves out of frustration for having been born in a nation that distrusts or dislikes them.

The attackers aren't refugees, but Muslim migration to the west is without a doubt related to their actions.
I don't disagree with this.


 
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it's gotten the point when I hear or some sort of attack in ___ I automatically assume it's related to islam. every time. again, and again.
Yeah same


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
I agree that immigration needs restricting, but the solution to terrorist activities isn't to hound out people who have lived here for generations just because they subscribe to a set of belief systems, however immoral they may be.
So you're okay with allowing people who believe in a religion that refers to non-believers as infidels, and that infidels should be killed to live in your country when you know for a fact that these sort of attacks, conducted by people of this religion, aren't going to stop? You're okay with these same people who treat your women like disposable garbage because to them they are whores and impure, simply for not following their religious standards? You're okay with these people who hate your country and westernism as a whole?

Morals have already been thrown out of the window.


 
 
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Hate​ to say it but if these countries don't start deporting these refugees en masse​ then they're pretty much asking for it at this point.
The guy was a home grown terrorist though.

The last several attacks were home grown in fact, as Flee pointed out.

There are obviously various logistic and integration issues in regards to taking in such monumental numbers of migrants and refugees at the level Europe has for the past half a decade now, but terrorism isn't one of them, at least in the UK.
Deport all muslims then?


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Fucking nanny states

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Same shit, right?


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Fucking nanny states

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Same shit, right?
Nah brah.
Sikhism was created as a militant response to Muslim agression around eastern India.


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I wasn't being serious there. Sort of quoting what the (((journalists))) thought.


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Don't have to deport muslims. You can just say you are not allowed to practice Islam here. If they ask why you can just say because we are not allowed to practice our religion in their country.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
I agree that immigration needs restricting, but the solution to terrorist activities isn't to hound out people who have lived here for generations just because they subscribe to a set of belief systems, however immoral they may be.
So you're okay with allowing people who believe in a religion that refers to non-believers as infidels, and that infidels should be killed to live in your country when you know for a fact that these sort of attacks, conducted by people of this religion, aren't going to stop? You're okay with these same people who treat your women like disposable garbage because to them they are whores and impure, simply for not following their religious standards? You're okay with these people who hate your country and westernism as a whole?

Morals have already been thrown out of the window.
Well yeah, because we have a little thing called freedom of religion and thought in developed societies.

Many Muslims have managed to reconcile their faith with the laws of this country, despite the fact that they advocate a lot of abhorrent tripe. Yes, there is a social cohesiveness problem within Muslim communities, and yes various Muslim communities have posed a problem with integrating in the pluralistic visions of Western societies, that doesn't mean our response should be a knee jerk widespread mass deportation. The majority of them are already citizens now, so if you're going to advocate the removal of people who believe in distasteful ideas then you need to also apply it to /pol/acks, neo-nazis and cults.

You tote around this idea like it's completely feasible, but it really isn't.


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I wasn't being serious there. Sort of quoting what the (((journalists))) thought.
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So then how do you propose stopping these home grown terrorists, and why is it that countries who haven't accepted any refugees haven't had these same problems? It goes beyond just the terrorist attacks, crime in general has gone up too.

This may be an odd thought, but could the fact that nobody gives a shit about Poland or Hungary matter?

Neither are world powers, neither are real shining beacons of democracy - they're just kinda doing their own thing. If you were part of a terrorist group and were looking to recruit people to bomb somewhere to send a message, you'd pick somewhere that screams western values (US, UK, France, Germany) over countries that a ton of people likely forget even exist. More bang for your body.


 
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Don't have to deport muslims. You can just say you are not allowed to practice Islam here. If they ask why you can just say because we are not allowed to practice our religion in their country.
You can in a lot of those nations though

You can think of a better reason than that