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But those who do pass have every right to fight on the battlefield.
Given that your entire moral philosophy is basically based on consent and the NAP, why are you so eager to expand the amount of people who could potentially go to war?
There's nothing inherently wrong with an army or war, only in how they're used. If another Hitler arises and starts taking over countries in Europe, we would have a moral responsibility to get involved. I know nothing about the NAP and neither support it or condemn it, but consent is the root of morality, with equality following from it. If a man is legally allowed to do something under the law, and then a woman is prohibited from doing that very same thing because of her sex, that discrimination flies in the face of morality.

Reminds me of that other thread where I asked what was wrong with a woman serving in the army if she passed every requirement, and someone on your side (Assassin, I think) showed their true colors by saying "Having a penis is one of the requirements."

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The Flood / Re: What do you guys think about Ben Shapiro?
« on: August 17, 2016, 12:26:02 AM »
Don't know about him, but the fact that you like him doesn't put a good word in.
han is cool tho

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The Flood / Re: man I love Stephen Colbert
« on: August 16, 2016, 11:23:38 PM »
my brother loves him

i always hear him listening to colbert videos while he's taking a shit
your brother is a legend

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The Flood / man I love Stephen Colbert
« on: August 16, 2016, 11:20:58 PM »
he had Bryan Cranston on tonight and they did a Great Race-esque bit that was hilarious

I really like The Late Show now that he's hosting it, has anyone else been able to catch it?

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If you were to suddenly learn that there is objectively no God or fixed source, does that mean torturing a child to death would suddenly cease to be immoral?
Yes.
Yeah, I'm done with this conversation.

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The Flood / Re: school is coming soon (or already here)
« on: August 16, 2016, 10:41:25 PM »
Community Pharmacology
Criminal Justice Technology
Social Psychology

not taking a full load this semester

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Human rights come from morality, not the government.

Civil rights come from the government.
morality comes from God or the next best thing, and guides rulers into offering civil rights and freedoms for those under their leadership, for the good of the nation.

FUCK the enlightenment tbh
Morality is a constant, but is interpreted in different ways by humans. Therefore, human rights are interpreted in different ways. Whenever I speak on the subject, I'm obviously referring to my interpretation of it.

Not everyone believes in God, but almost everyone believes in morality, and so to claim that morality solely comes from God is just incorrect.
functional morality can only come from an unwavering God or God-like fixed source.

If morality is subjective or in any way impermanent, it might as well not exist at all.

I don't give a fuck what people believe, people are fucking retarded.
Morality is fixed, and just because everyone believes different things about it doesn't mean that it's not. Needing a giant, omniscient deity to tell you what's right and wrong may be necessary for some people, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean that's the only source of good and evil. The existence of suffering is where morality comes from. If you were to suddenly learn that there is objectively no God or fixed source, does that mean torturing a child to death would suddenly cease to be immoral? The nuances of the subject go deeper than religious dictates.

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Human rights come from morality, not the government.

Civil rights come from the government.
morality comes from God or the next best thing, and guides rulers into offering civil rights and freedoms for those under their leadership, for the good of the nation.

FUCK the enlightenment tbh
Morality is a constant, but is interpreted in different ways by humans. Therefore, human rights are interpreted in different ways. Whenever I speak on the subject, I'm obviously referring to my interpretation of it.

Not everyone believes in God, but almost everyone believes in morality, and so to claim that morality solely comes from God is just incorrect.

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Human rights come from morality, not the government.

Civil rights come from the government.

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Gaming / Re: why does the PSP look amazing compared to the vita
« on: August 16, 2016, 09:47:15 PM »
only game i enjoyed on my psp was daxter

actually i also enjoyed this sonic game, i can't remember what it was called though
Crisis Core was awesome, too

Honestly one of the best Final Fantasy games. The music was amazing.

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As long as organisms exist that can suffer, rights/morality exists.

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The Flood / glad to see Donald Trump reinvigorating local businesses
« on: August 16, 2016, 09:40:12 PM »

8143

But those (women) who do pass have every right to fight on the battlefield.

But as shown, none have.
Then there's no problem and all of you have nothing to worry about.

But when and if one does, she deserves a spot in infantry, same as any man.
"men and women should be treated and viewed as exact equals even though it's been proven time and time again they aren't and I accept this, but I'm still going to whine"
They should be treated as equals under the law, of course.

And they have. They didn't qualify.
And they shouldn't get in. Only those who pass the qualification requirements should. If that's no current women, then none should be able to enlist. If a woman does eventually qualify, then she should be able to serve on the front lines, same as any man.

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But those (women) who do pass have every right to fight on the battlefield.

But as shown, none have.
Then there's no problem and all of you have nothing to worry about.

But when and if one does, she deserves a spot in infantry, same as any man.
"men and women should be treated and viewed as exact equals even though it's been proven time and time again they aren't and I accept this, but I'm still going to whine"
They should be treated as equals under the law, of course.

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But those (women) who do pass have every right to fight on the battlefield.

But as shown, none have.
Then there's no problem and all of you have nothing to worry about.

But when and if one does, she deserves a spot in infantry, same as any man.

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JERRY I NEED TO BORROW YOUR MATTRESS

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The Flood / Re: >watch two documentaries about the 60s and 70s
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:58:14 PM »
Just have the husband do it.

>Literally saying "taking care of my kids gets boring" as though they don't have an obligation to take care of them
No.

Women are supposed to do that
triggered

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The Flood / Re: >watch two documentaries about the 60s and 70s
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:48:19 PM »
Wasn't first wave during the twenties?
Shhh

you're ruining the circlejerk

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The Flood / Re: Bow to your new god
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:46:41 PM »
azula isnt real tho

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The Flood / Re: >watch two documentaries about the 60s and 70s
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:46:25 PM »
k

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The Flood / Re: if i buy a suit will i become chad?
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:38:25 PM »
No. Chads have no sense of style. Think tank tops and baseball caps with the label still attached. They would be on the same level as social outcasts if it weren't for their looks.
boys have swag

men have class

 8)

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The Flood / Re: Rank your bottom five users
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:35:38 PM »
I never said you couldn't or that it was impossible. I said that it was difficult. I post something and you have an image in your head of what that sounded like. Even if I were to clear up the way I said it, if I don't change the wording it will still come off the wrong way.

that's not what i'm talking about.

you CAN change your perceived tone on the internet.

that's what i'm talking about.
I kinda empathize with that

sometimes you have a tone you're used to communicating online with, and short of specific lines being pointed out, it's hard to know what to change in it

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The Flood / Re: Rank your bottom five users
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:13:31 PM »
but only five people voted for you

that's not a whole book that's like a paragraph

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The Flood / Re: Rank your bottom five users
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:08:12 PM »
It's wrong to be angry about a delay in something you've been waiting ten years for? Not to mention that's only one thread/lone instance.

your presence in the ffxv thread is pretty telling. you post like that a lot. you have the demeanor of a spoiled crybaby.
why do you care about getting votes here in the first place though?

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The Flood / Re: if i buy a suit will i become chad?
« on: August 16, 2016, 06:07:05 PM »
well obviously

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The Flood / Re: Daily Reminder...
« on: August 16, 2016, 05:23:10 PM »
I liked Kupo

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The Flood / Re: I just had an epiphany
« on: August 16, 2016, 05:21:47 PM »
I started this drama, it was me

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I thought you were supposed to be some champion of logic. If even ONE woman is able to meet the requirements of being in a combat role, the entire institution should bend to cater her.

They have. The Marine Corps has already accepted two enlisted Marines into infantry roles; no woman has ever passed IOC. There are already female Army officers and enlisted personnel in infantry.
Good. No requirements should be lowered for women - they should have to pass everything that a man has to. But if they do, and then are still denied enlistment, that's straight-up discrimination.

There's a lot of controversy around those that have passed, like reports that they were basically pushed through the pipeline despite failing multiple hikes and other tests.
And that obviously shouldn't happen. If a woman wants to serve, she has to earn it.

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The Flood / Re: The dangers of GMO Tomatoes
« on: August 16, 2016, 05:09:03 PM »
For real was there ever a danger to them?
Yes

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I thought you were supposed to be some champion of logic. If even ONE woman is able to meet the requirements of being in a combat role, the entire institution should bend to cater her.

They have. The Marine Corps has already accepted two enlisted Marines into infantry roles; no woman has ever passed IOC. There are already female Army officers and enlisted personnel in infantry.
Good. No requirements should be lowered for women - they should have to pass everything that a man has to. But if they do, and then are still denied enlistment, that's straight-up discrimination.

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