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The Flood / Re: I lost a lot of members tonight [WITH POLL]
« on: April 22, 2020, 08:51:49 AM »
having a designated debate room where free speech absolutism is a cornerstone in what's been advertised as a safe space for LGBT+ people is a very poor mixture, and you really can't have both
I take issue with this. At no point did I advertise my server as a safe space. People assumed it was a "safe space" because it was an LGBT/trans server that had strict rules against slurs, harassment, etc. And you absoluitely can have LGBT people in a designated debate/free speech room. We aren't lesser minded just because of being LGBT lol. The sensitive ones don't speak for all of us.

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The Flood / Re: I lost a lot of members tonight [WITH POLL]
« on: April 22, 2020, 08:47:16 AM »
given that you haven't provided the full story, i'm inclined to side with the people leaving

there's no reason to ban anybody for having stupid opinions, but if the server really had been advertised as a "safe space" for these weak, weak people who so desperately need attention, or want to cling to the notion that they're special, or whatever the fuck is going on in their developing prepubescent minds, then it's not shock that they'd leave once the illusion that they're trying to maintain is shattered

having a designated debate room where free speech absolutism is a cornerstone in what's been advertised as a safe space for LGBT+ people is a very poor mixture, and you really can't have both

it also sounds like some people left not because of the decision not to ban that person, but because you personally made it a much bigger thing than it needed to be by going on and on about it, to a point where you had people saying "okay fine, can we just drop it now" at the very beginning of the logs (clearly showing this went on for a much longer time than was shown)

no one wants to be part of a channel that's led by some raving druggie, despite the fact that you will never accept that that's what you are

i certainly think it's cool that you won't ban someone for having incendiary opinions, but perhaps if you made the intentions of the server clearer, you wouldn't be having this mass exodus of people who thought this was a drama-less server

this is also why nobody here is going to join, ever, because you're the one running it, and you've consistently proven that you don't know the first thing about how to run something like this
Oh how wrong you are, Verbatim. I never advertised it as a safe space, ever. I made my intentions clear from the start. The members tried to make it something that it wasn't. And lol, we're still going strong. It wasn't really a mass exodus. Eleven people left, most of them notable or staff members, yes. But they don't define the server. You don't know what you're talking about. I'll refer to you as "Verbatim" out of respect, I apologize for when I used your IRL name to try to seem cool.

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The Flood / Re: I lost a lot of members tonight [WITH POLL]
« on: April 22, 2020, 07:54:47 AM »
Why you post this here? Why anyone here would bother?
This site is my blog, haven't you heard?

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The Flood / Re: I lost a lot of members tonight [WITH POLL]
« on: April 22, 2020, 07:28:58 AM »
Why would you ban that person? Seems kind of crazy to me.
holy shit thank you

and now everyone is freaking out lmao, all my pivotal members and staff are leaving out of protest

and that's fine

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The Flood / Re: I lost a lot of members tonight [WITH POLL]
« on: April 22, 2020, 05:07:05 AM »
And as always the invite link is just discord.gg/TTV

If I ever lose my third level of boost then the invite link is this: https://discord.gg/XETdAyk

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The Flood / I lost a lot of members tonight [WITH POLL]
« on: April 22, 2020, 05:02:31 AM »
Because I wouldn't ban someone, who said this:


The full logs are here. Beware - it's a wild ride. This took up all of my night, and all of my high. God forbid a chemical makes you better.

I'm sorry - forgot the poll. You can delete the other one Cheat

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The Flood / I lost a lot of members tonight
« on: April 22, 2020, 04:56:24 AM »
Because I wouldn't ban someone, who said this:


The full logs are here. Beware - it's a wild ride. This took up all of my night, and all of my high. God forbid a chemical makes you better.

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The Flood / Re: Petition to rename the forum to Two and A Half Men
« on: April 21, 2020, 11:56:51 PM »
I'm never getting rid of my dick, it's not even a masculine organ lol. A soft dick made from girl-type skin is actually really chill
Hard disagree but ok.
How do you "disagree"? Please elaborate, I actually enjoy discussions like this. I won't be offended or anything, so have at it.
A penis is literally the male sex organ. I fully understand the effects of HRT on it, having experienced it first hand, but it’s still a dick.

I’m not arguing that having a penis makes you a man or having a vagina makes you a woman. I’m saying that it’s a male organ on whoever it’s attached to.
The penis is the sex organ that males are born with, yes. That doesn't mean that it's indefinitely, and always will be this male sex organ label. You need to open your mind a bit I think.

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The Flood / Re: Petition to rename the forum to Two and A Half Men
« on: April 21, 2020, 08:08:55 PM »
I'm never getting rid of my dick, it's not even a masculine organ lol. A soft dick made from girl-type skin is actually really chill
Hard disagree but ok.
How do you "disagree"? Please elaborate, I actually enjoy discussions like this. I won't be offended or anything, so have at it.

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The Flood / The Giggle app verified me as a girl haha
« on: April 21, 2020, 02:09:51 PM »
A robot whose entire existence is to filter out girls from boys says I pass. What's next for good things happening to me?


Proof

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The Flood / Re: Please don't kiss me.
« on: April 21, 2020, 11:05:16 AM »


Screw you, I'm kissing you!

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I’m pretty sure I read a thread where you admitted there was 12 year old children on that discord

A federal prison is the place you need to be
I said there were probably 13 year olds in it, as that's the youngest age you're able to use Discord within the rules. Not a bad thing, and the fact that you think it's creepy is what's actually very telling and creepy itself.

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The Flood / Re: Petition to rename the forum to Two and A Half Men
« on: April 21, 2020, 12:50:31 AM »
I'm never getting rid of my dick, it's not even a masculine organ lol. A soft dick made from girl-type skin is actually really chill

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The Flood / Re: This place seems active again. Cool.
« on: April 20, 2020, 11:01:49 AM »
I think its the lockdown. Its finally getting to people.
Hell yes. The new era of Carmen has begun!

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The Flood / Re: Please give update
« on: April 20, 2020, 10:23:38 AM »
Umm, what happened that you haven't left house for almost a year?

Experiencing prolonged lack of motivation to preform functions beyond eating and sleeping. Government initiatives (social security nets) provides me with means to survive for now.  Before this, not leave my village in decade. Who knows maybe next year?  ???
Where are you from, Onion Beetle?

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The Flood / This place seems active again. Cool.
« on: April 20, 2020, 10:22:51 AM »


It was because of me, right?


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The Flood / Re: i just had an epiphany
« on: April 20, 2020, 04:54:22 AM »
To be totally fair, there's probably a lot of childhood stuff out there better left forgotten. And then there's shows like totally spies and total drama island which live on immortally via wankfest in young adults still tapping into the golden teenage nostalgia of years long past.
Totally Spies is a genuinely hilarious, well-written show that only creeps find anything wankable in.

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Chinatown is a dry film - devoid of both water and hope. It’s also a film that contains one of my favorite villains, ever. He doesn’t have any powers or abilities - he isn’t even a Joker-style manipulator of chaos with the ability to plan eight steps ahead. No, the antagonist of this film, Noah Cross, is such a fantastic villain because he’s real. He represents the true evildoers in our world: the people who care about nothing but what they can own and the magnitude of the mark they’ll leave after they're gone.

He rapes his own daughter to leave a mark on her, so she’ll never be able to forget him. He plunders all the water from his state to leave a mark on it, ensuring that future generations will remember that he was the man who did it. He doesn’t show any remorse for his actions, not even trying to justify them. He says that in the right time and at the right place, anyone would be capable of doing exactly what he did. He’s a textbook sociopath, caring only about his legacy. Even when our idealistic hero, Jake Gittes, points out that there’s nothing more on the planet that Cross could own and asks him in exasperation WHAT more he could possibly want, Cross grins and declares, “The future, Mr. Gittes! The future.” It's worth noting that Cross intentionally misprounounces Gittes' name as "Gitts", another tactic to demean the man and show his ownership of the situation.

Noah Cross displays no empathy for his victims throughout the film. This is exemplified early on, when it’s revealed that he eats his fish dinner with the head still on the fish. The eyes looking up at its killer don’t seem to bother Cross as he takes a bite out of its flesh, and neither is he bothered by his “granddaughter’s” screams of horror when abducting her, even though she just saw him murder her mother in cold blood. He’s still smiling and acting like he did nothing wrong.

Perhaps the worst part of this entire film is that Cross’ only protection, the only thing stopping him from being punished by his multitudes of unabashed cruelties, is the society that he himself is destroying. The law offers no recourse to Jake to stop this monster, and the best thing Jake can do to solve the problem, is to “forget it”.

You should all watch this film if you haven't yet. It's truly one of the best films ever shot and I give you my word that you'll be moved by it.

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The Flood / Re: i just had an epiphany
« on: April 18, 2020, 02:04:28 PM »
i always thought butch hartman's humor was like a kid-friendly seth macfarlane, so i guess i'm not surprised
Wait YES, that perfectly describes it. I think Butch Hartman wrote for Family Guy for a time too.

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The Flood / Re: Was there an attempt at disrupting order here?
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:27:43 PM »
Oh and I just saw what you did to Verbatim’s good thread. If this isn’t the definition of “manchildren”, then I don’t know what is.

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The Flood / Re: i just had an epiphany
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:25:21 PM »
I watched that show religiously as a kid, liked it much better than Spongebob which I found creepy at times.

Take that as you will.

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The Flood / Re: Can we clear all this up?
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:21:00 PM »
most of your posts are excuses for your actions or explanations for your condition or whining about how people react to you or whatever

i think at least some of your problems here will go away if you stop making everything about yourself
That’s actually very fair, and I’m sincerely going to try to fix that. I’m going to try to make some quality posts that inspire thought in the future. Thanks for this bit of criticism.

And I’m not even going to quote the guy beneath you. I never sucked off a hobo for meth. I gave a temporarily homeless man oral sex because I was high and I knew him well. The meth came long afterward and wasn’t even tied to the oral sex whatsoever. And the meth was literally a small amount of powder on my gums and nothing else more.

It’s not as drastic as you’re making it out to be, but no, it wasn’t a great time.

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The Flood / Re: Was there an attempt at disrupting order here?
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:15:33 PM »
Shitposting is dumb. Make quality posts and stop acting like actual toddlers please.

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The Flood / Was there an attempt at disrupting order here?
« on: April 18, 2020, 06:39:02 AM »
I hope I'm missing out on some grand irony, because otherwise it literally makes you all look like a bunch of nine year olds who just found out that they can connect to the Internet on their DSi

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The Flood / Re: Can we clear all this up?
« on: April 18, 2020, 06:34:42 AM »
idk why you guys give SC so much grief. The lad has passion.
tbh his often incoherent weirdness and the aggressive and annoyed response to it is maybe the most amusing thing left on this forum to me these days.
Okay, that makes more sense. It makes more sense if this hostility toward me is just to try to get a reaction. Unfortunately, I'm a real, grounded person, and so those kinds of things don't get to me. But thanks for clearing this up.

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The Flood / Can we clear all this up?
« on: April 17, 2020, 08:09:55 AM »
One last thread about me, then I'll go back to posting about AMC's The Walking Dead I promise.

But maybe I won't. That's the point of this thread. I am a longstanding member on both Sep7agon and Bungie, but that doesn't give me some kind of ticket to just be this annoying menace around here. As most of you know, I have vastly different sensibilities and opinions than most of this forum. I thought for a while that was the problem, my extreme liberalism and feminism, but then I realized that there are many other users who are just as extreme in their contrasting opinions without being quite as much of a pariah as me. Verbatim and IcyWind, both liberals, for example.

So without this OP becoming too long for people to reasonably read, I am requesting each one of you give a sincere, non-memey (or memey with actual advice in it) post that briefly details what exactly I'm doing wrong. I say "what exactly I'm doing wrong" because I'm not the best at reading between the lines and would like as much directness here as possible. In exchange for an honest piece of advice on how to become a less-despised poster here on this forum, I'll give you an "honest opinion of" post, because everyone seems to like that.

Thank you, and I look forward to your responses!

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The Flood / Re: Wait sandtrap died??
« on: April 17, 2020, 07:59:00 AM »
Can confirm

http://sep7agon.net/the-flood/sandtrap-70947/30/

"Yep, don't have kids"

I don't think he even read the fucking OP.
normally i'd be the last person to defend secondclass, but given how much i can relate to tactlessly injecting my personal beliefs where they don't necessarily belong, something compelled me to clear this up

all she's really trying to say here is "the fact that cancer can kill such good people is so cruel and so terrible that it's a wonder why we continue to bring more children into this world when they're all so very likely to have a similar fate"

she wasn't necessarily trying to be disrespectful; it was just a combination of very poor timing and very poor phrasing

so yeah secondclass is garbage and that post was bad, but not for the reasons you think
I'm not good with loss, and when Sandtrap died, my grief manifested through anger. That was the point of my "don't have kids" line, and yes you hit the nail on the head above. But more than that, I just didn't know what else to say. Do I talk about Sandtrap's and I PMs, about how he always had faith in me and talked me through my dark, self-harm, self-hate times? No, that would just seem like posturing especially to this forum which hates me. Do I try to eulogize him, come up with some grand summation of not only his life but his values/noble traits? No, as you can see from my recent posts I'm not nearly eloquent enough to do that.

So I said what was truly on my mind. I tried to display my anger through the sentence that summed up everything I felt, not only about Sandtrap but of the bigger problem: death itself. Again, I'm sorry if this isn't making much sense, but I never meant any disrespect toward Sandtrap, and I'll leave this post by just restating that he was one of the best not only users, but people that I've known.

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The Flood / Re: Wait sandtrap died??
« on: April 17, 2020, 07:54:11 AM »
it is very weird that you didn't remember it happening, though

drugs probably
Would it be tasteless to admit that I did remember this happening, and the OP of this thread was a on-drugs, really not cool way to kind of, bring it back up in a light way? I mean, it was supposed to inspire incredulity that I didn't remember, yes. And that's not the way to bring this kind of thing back up, I know. In the spirit of you not completely thinking I lie about everything, I regret going about it this way.

With the message I've quoted, I had a clear opportunity to just blame it on drugs and say "oh yeah that is weird that I don't remember it happening", but I took the more convulted, muddy approach and attempted to display the truth of what actually happened. I'm not saying that makes it okay or anything, but I'm just trying to say that the truth of things is often so muddled, especially when it comes to the human brain and what it's truly intending/feeling.

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I didn't realize SecondClass was a Groomer.
Probably because I'm not. I know this must sound weird to the genuinely creepy populace of this forum, but it's possible to have healthy friendships with people below the age of 18 without any ulterior motives.

If I had kids who were teenagers I sure as hell wouldn't trust them talking to you of all people let alone being friends with them.

You're a horrible example to children.
Do you even remember why you dislike me? I've been nothing but nice to you.

Remember the time we switched accounts on here and I trusted you, and you were going to end up stealing it and making me look far more fucking worse than I already was on here?

Yeah, that's reason enough to dislike you. I was stupid to trust you, but I'm a lot wiser now.
Damn, I had a chance to do a cool swapping accounts thing with someone, and I ruined it by literally being the villain wow. Why did I do that? I remember now, but seriously. What was the reason, what was the angle? I remember when I had you watch a bunch of totally spies episodes for something, but everything else is honestly very cloudy. If you could go over it again we could probably have a more cognizant conversation here.

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