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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PM »
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal
wtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollars

but there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFS

also the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PM »
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:15:46 PM »
Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.
You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmao
so I should just give up and be fat is your advice

what a piece of shit

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PM »
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:07:32 PM »
Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.

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Serious / Re: Sep7agon's favorite television host weighs in on you-know-who
« on: November 14, 2016, 11:48:32 AM »
"Not available in your country"

Damn, and I really wanted to see a fellow limey reiterate the current year on a computer screen over and over.
I've literally never heard him say anything like "come on guys it's 2016."
shh, they don't like it when you criticize their forced memes
what the fuck was this meme even meant to imply

like yeah, news flash fucker: some ideas have no place in mainstream 21st century society

and if it's just a simple mockery of its apparent overuse: does the guy really even say it that much?
The meme was that people would use the highlighted bit as the entire argument, "You're wrong because your ideas are outdated". Newtonian physics are also outdated, what's your point?
But they're not. Newtonian physics are very much relevant in today's world.

Damaging social constructs like homophobia and sexism, not so much.

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 14, 2016, 11:26:20 AM »
so lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5

if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever fam
I need my face to thin out

I prefer my women on the thicc side, you just need to start hormones.
even if I wanted to, I don't really have the money or availability

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Serious / Re: What do you consider racist?
« on: November 14, 2016, 01:00:57 AM »
" i hate when __ people do ___" because the hatred is not directed towards the race but instead their action.
This IS racist. Saying "I hate when black people steal things" implies you don't hate when a different race steals things. The non racist way would be "I hate when people do _____". No race even mentioned. That's directed at the action, not the race.

how does not approving of actions by x race means i approve of actions of y race?
Because if you disapproved of the action in general, you wouldn't have to even bring up race.

>you see a bunch of black people on TV looting
>"Man, I hate when people use elections as an excuse to riot"

No reason to even bring up their skin color in that situation. You only have to do that if the context requires it.

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The Flood / Re: sep7agon is a pegboy
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:52:33 AM »
peace among worlds

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Serious / Re: Sep7agon's favorite television host weighs in on you-know-who
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:51:20 AM »
"Not available in your country"

Damn, and I really wanted to see a fellow limey reiterate the current year on a computer screen over and over.
I've literally never heard him say anything like "come on guys it's 2016."
shh, they don't like it when you criticize their forced memes

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The Flood / Re: penis
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:48:01 AM »

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The Flood / Re: sep7agon is a pegboy
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:30:24 AM »
same

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Serious / Re: What do you consider racist?
« on: November 13, 2016, 11:47:25 PM »
" i hate when __ people do ___" because the hatred is not directed towards the race but instead their action.
This IS racist. Saying "I hate when black people steal things" implies you don't hate when a different race steals things. The non racist way would be "I hate when people do _____". No race even mentioned. That's directed at the action, not the race.

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The Flood / Re: penis
« on: November 13, 2016, 11:34:30 PM »
BAZOOPLE

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The Flood / Re: wow cheat
« on: November 13, 2016, 08:35:05 PM »
Class why? We don't need any more gays.
I disagree.
And we if we can pick up a trap or two here, I'm all for it.


get on it

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The Flood / wow cheat
« on: November 13, 2016, 08:12:16 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 08:11:12 PM »
more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content
Chemicals/hormones are reality, you can get the good feelings from exercise without becoming muscly. Even female gymnasts can reach a high level of strength while looking feminine and not ripped.
I don't care about endorphins, I care about how I look

no one wants a fat tall femboy

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 07:23:59 PM »
Skipping meals and the like won't help you lose weight, because not only do you risk running into starvation mode (where your body holds on to every little bit of fat it can get), but also the fact that starving yourself will make you eat more later to compensate.
that makes sense, I wish I would've known about that months ago tho

luckily that's not what atkins is

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 07:15:29 PM »
more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content
It's entirely axiomatic even if you deny it.

Your body is an interconnected metabolic system and altering one part of it effects the rest. Especially nutritionally. Lethargy is only the beginning. The longer you abstain for getting the vitamins and nutrients you need the more you will break down physically and the greater your mentality will deteriorate in turn.

You might attain some level of contentedness, but how long can it last?
as long as I stay thin

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 07:04:45 PM »
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
i can give you an extremely effective weight loss supplement, the best in the world. but Its dangerous and I don't know how mentally unstable you are. Wouldn't want your death on my hands smh
I'm perfectly stable, wtf?

and don't bother if it's expensive

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 07:04:10 PM »
more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 06:56:18 PM »
I've personally found this site to be incredibly helpful, loads of good workouts without any need for equipment. It's better if you can find a pullup bar but you'll still make a lot of progress if you stick to a schedule with this. The site does all the thinking for you, and even gives you mealplans if you want to go that far.

AND IT'S FREE
the only exercises I do are cardio/sit ups

why the fuck would I want a pullup bar? I'm trying to minimize my musculature

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PM »
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 06:31:11 PM »
can't tell if carson has body dysphoria, or if he's putting it on
what the fuck, I don't

if you honestly can't tell that I can afford to lose weight you're either trying to pity me or you're retarded

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PM »
post a full body pic im curious
I suck at taking/posing for photos but whatever
Spoiler

no it definitely is

and do you know how atkins works? The point is to go into ketosis. I hate muscles and I'm already pretty depressed and fatigued anyway so it's nbd
And I'm telling you that ketosis isn't healthy. You're literally choosing to feel worse and physically damage your body for some skewed sense of attractiveness. And it is obviously skewed because the stance on your appearance by the others in this thread with normal standards is that you're already skinny.

I've been in ketosis for months due to taking extreme measures combating my health issues and I can tell you it feels terrible.
more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:52:01 PM »
No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.
Your face isn't flabby it just looks like that because of weak facial structure and possibly salt intake
um okay? kinda rude but w/e

You want to be skinnier?

You start losing what little fat you have and you're going to be very unhealthy and probably look like ass as well.

Just a heads up.
Um yeah? I'm chubby.

How does getting thin make me unhealthy? Atkins also clears up your skin complexion, which will be good.
Chubby where? Definitely not in your face. Is your body fat located disproportionately somewhere else?

As for skin complexion. Managing sugar intake helps wonders with that.
No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.
If your face is flabby then the concrete in driveway is flabby.

Also, cutting all sugar and significantly reducing carbs is not healthy either and can put you into ketosis which can make you chronically fatigued and deteriorates your muscles over extended periods.
no it definitely is

and do you know how atkins works? The point is to go into ketosis. I hate muscles and I'm already pretty depressed and fatigued anyway so it's nbd

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:30:12 PM »
You want to be skinnier?

You start losing what little fat you have and you're going to be very unhealthy and probably look like ass as well.

Just a heads up.
Um yeah? I'm chubby.

How does getting thin make me unhealthy? Atkins also clears up your skin complexion, which will be good.
Chubby where? Definitely not in your face. Is your body fat located disproportionately somewhere else?

As for skin complexion. Managing sugar intake helps wonders with that.
No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:23:20 PM »
You want to be skinnier?

You start losing what little fat you have and you're going to be very unhealthy and probably look like ass as well.

Just a heads up.
Um yeah? I'm chubby.

How does getting thin make me unhealthy? Atkins also clears up your skin complexion, which will be good.

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:19:40 PM »
Current weight and estimated BF%?

I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.
BF?

I weigh like 170 or 180, way too much

hopefully I can lose a good 30 pounds at least

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The Flood / Starting the atkins diet
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:12:19 PM »
I've tried exercise, skipping meals, and counting calories and nothing has worked

I've been wanting to avoid a no-carb diet but I don't have any other choices at this point. And I hear atkins works wonders.

Anyway, I'm going to save this thread so I can compare the before and after

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