Quote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2016, 01:08:42 AM

Quote from: Dapper_Droid on December 02, 2016, 01:04:23 AM

Religion, specifically Christianity, is a cornerstone in the foundation of Western Society. Religion is a way we can express ideas, philosophy, and morality. You cannot have a fruitful society without religion, look at the USSR for example. Atheism often ignores this aspect of religion and only focuses on "muh science", without understanding the politcal and social impact it has.

This is most likely due to said atheist not having regular social contact outside certain instances. They were never exposed to the positives of religion, because they lock themselves in their room all day. Therefore, they tend to focus on the self indulgent part of their belief system, instead of the good of the whole. This then leads to thoughts such as "Muh philosophy, muh star dust, muh 4 billion years". They never got involved with their Church. They never attempted to connect spiritually. They can only focus on what they have been exposed to.

If you're an atheist, not agnostic, but hardcore "There is no God" atheist, Take look at your life. In the past 6 months have you tried to be proactive and outgoing? Have done anything besides the daily routine and watch children's cartoons? Have you altered you body to try and be someone you're not? 

Put aside some time this weekend. Go to a local Church session. Take in the surroundings, the mood of others, the sense of community.

You're a religious imposer, Loaf is an atheist one. Both are just as annoying.

Just let people believe what they want to without getting all self-righteous about it.

I am an atheist though. Doesn't mean I don't see the positives in religion. Not everyone needs to tip their fedora so hard their katana falls out of it's sheath.

Religion, specifically Christianity, is a cornerstone in the foundation of Western Society. Religion is a way we can express ideas, philosophy, and morality. You cannot have a fruitful society without religion, look at the USSR for example. Atheism often ignores this aspect of religion and only focuses on "muh science", without understanding the politcal and social impact it has.

This is most likely due to said atheist not having regular social contact outside certain instances. They were never exposed to the positives of religion, because they lock themselves in their room all day. Therefore, they tend to focus on the self indulgent part of their belief system, instead of the good of the whole. This then leads to thoughts such as "Muh philosophy, muh star dust, muh 4 billion years". They never got involved with their Church. They never attempted to connect spiritually. They can only focus on what they have been exposed to.

If you're an atheist, not agnostic, but hardcore "There is no God" atheist, Take look at your life. In the past 6 months have you tried to be proactive and outgoing? Have done anything besides the daily routine and watch children's cartoons? Have you altered you body to try and be someone you're not? 

Put aside some time this weekend. Go to a local Church session. Take in the surroundings, the mood of others, the sense of community.

Metal is rock tho, just refined.

Also, >caring about a kids show

Here's a good one

Quote from: SecondClass on December 01, 2016, 05:55:19 PM

Quote from: Loaf on December 01, 2016, 05:33:48 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 01, 2016, 04:03:58 PM

Loaf's post seems edgy and I always hesitate to talk about atheism on the internet, but still.

When I look at a mountain range filled with trees, animals, and rivers, look up and see a huge cosmic generator giving them life, and having it all live in perfect harmony - I think the fact that it just happened through billions of years of astronomical progress is so much more beautiful and awe inspiring than if a magic humanlike god willed it all into existence.

I agree with the part about nature, but my point isn't edgy. We need to make these people stop holding their stupid beliefs somehow, because the world would be much better off without it.

For one, supernatural and religious thinkers have a hard time understanding the natural world. That's why in their heads something like religion makes sense to them. If you take away magical thinking and replace it with skepticism and desire for evidence, you have a much smarter civilization. You also have a civilization who doesn't base their hope for the world on the afterlife, instead of focusing on more productive things like how they can actually look at the life they have as beautiful and worth while. And you take away people's prejudices that arise from when religion divides people, you stop having all these stupid problems with the government where they try to implement laws about social issues, parents stop telling their kids that masturbation sends them to hell which makes them feel ashamed of themselves for doing it, it stops making people who are gay feel ashamed because people keep telling them that there's something wrong with them. It helps the world in so many ways, you can't even imagine how much of a cancer that religion is, it literally makes everything worse.

So yes, we need to make these people stop believing in god. No, that's not edgy because a world without religion would be an infinitely better place.

No, we don't. Nonexistence and death are terrifying concepts, and people cope with that in different ways. Who are you to impose your mindset on others, to force them to believe something they don't want to? You're no better than the religious zealots who want to force everyone to be Christian.

It doesn't matter who's right or how different society would be without religion. What matters is personal choice. If someone wants to believe in something and they're not imposing it on others, then you have no grounds to object.

You bring up the Christians who take it too far and impose their beliefs on their children, that's obviously wrong. But that's a problem with the individual, not the religion. Plenty of religious parents let their children choose what to believe in for themselves.

Religious people can't defend their stupid beliefs with reason which is why people get upset when you insult belief in god. That pisses me off, I don't care whether or not you think I should just but out of people's lives. I will be clear to as many people as I can, I think religion is stupid and I think having supernatural beliefs is fucked in the head. And, not that you need to hear this secondclass, but other people do; can we get it through our heads that if you believe in the supernatural that's just the same as believing in god? I fucking hate it when morons have to say that "I don't believe in god or like religions, but I feel there's a presence". Okay, so you're superstitious either way, you just rebranded it, it's literally no different. You're just trading one silly belief for the other.

I don't see how you can look at all the problems that religion imposes on the world and just think, yeah that's okay, all I need to do is focus on the "bad stuff" that people do in the name of religion and hopefully everyone will just start deciding to be a "good christian". No! The problem is systemic, and it's people not having critical thinking skills in the first place. You need to make everyone knock off the stupid fucking game and start acting like an advanced species of ape, because honestly I feel like, you know how when you're playing a video game against a cpu enemy, but it just doesn't feel the same as playing against a real human being? It lacks that human quality? That's how it feels talking to people in general who believe in god, I just realize that they have an incomplete understanding of the world around me and it's just as boring (not to mention the damage the cause the world) talking to them as it is to play against a video game cpu.

Only faggots have chicks as their avatar

In any other society in history, a woman deciding to have unprotected sex with multiple men just for the fun of it, would be considered cause to disown her.

Quote from: SecondClass on December 01, 2016, 12:06:52 AM

Quote from: ねこ on December 01, 2016, 12:04:26 AM

Azula was the biggest mistake theu ever made

WHAT

Ah, shit sorry I made a spelling mistake, what I meant to say was

Spoiler

Azula was the biggest mistake the show's creators have ever made

Azula was the biggest mistake theu ever made

thank you for linking to an image instead of just embedding it