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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon drinking game
« on: June 11, 2017, 03:01:16 AM »
sep7agon but every time verb is misogynistic they get woohp'd
i guess nobody is ever getting woohp'd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut-shaming

Slut shaming is directed against women far more often than against men, not least because of the cultural perception that sex is something women do for men.

If you aren't for women's sexual liberation, you're for the double standard that exists everywhere.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon drinking game
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:56:01 AM »
sep7agon but every time verb is misogynistic they get woohp'd

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:50:44 AM »
tbh I'm like the opposite of Class

I just want people to like me (not love, that's too much tbh), while Class likes being put down

<3 u tho
the thing is I don't want to be outright hated, more of a sol thing where people like me but still put me down

and the funny thing is that some people think I'm sitting here getting off to people being mean to me, but its more because the meanness just gives me a feeling of pure catharsis and relief - I can go to writing.com if I want to get off lol



posts like this are just so amazing

Spoiler
from a purely psychological standpoint I probably developed the sub kink as a result of my general need to be disparaged, not the other way around

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:43:31 AM »
i've seen movies with some extremely morally repugnant characters in them, but i still like them, because their charisma is not based in the character's personality or actions, but with the actor's own ability to play the role so well
So what you're saying is that you watch films and tv literally wrong

"Wrong" in the sense that the goal of any story - to be so invested in it, you can't separate it from the truth - is being consciously violated. For the purpose of...what? Indulging in the "behind the scenes" unnecessary? If an actor's motivations or life are being thought of while you're watching something, the entire point of the medium has failed.
shockingly enough i don't think you understood what i said

part of a film's quality is how well the actors portray the characters, yes
Maybe, but that's not something you recognize when you view the film. There are no actors. Harrison Ford isn't in a studio running from a prop, Indiana Jones is desperately sprinting away from a giant boulder that's about to crush him. The actor doesn't exist, and neither do any meta aspects like film quality or writing mechanics. It might be enjoyable to list off the tropes you can see, but it detracts from the nature of a story itself, not to mention viewing pleasure.

shockingly enough I don't think you understood what I said

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:29:27 AM »
also this discussion is distracting from the subject

me
wait but I posted itt

it's about me now, that's how it works

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:28:02 AM »
i've seen movies with some extremely morally repugnant characters in them, but i still like them, because their charisma is not based in the character's personality or actions, but with the actor's own ability to play the role so well
So what you're saying is that you watch films and tv literally wrong

"Wrong" in the sense that the goal of any story - to be so invested in it, you can't separate it from the truth - is being consciously violated. For the purpose of...what? Indulging in the "behind the scenes" unnecessary? If an actor's motivations or life are being thought of while you're watching something, the entire point of the medium has failed.

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:17:27 AM »
"As little as possible"

YouTube
tbh you just need to watch this film, it's a masterpiece

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:15:57 AM »
most unlikable character ever is noah cross btw, intentionally so
if they're intentionally unlikable then that means they're actually likable
makes literally negative sense
a good actor can play an evil character in a really charismatic way

charismatic means you like their character while simultaneously rooting against them because you know they're bad

basic basic basic basic shit
That's what I'm saying - Noah Cross is no Frank Underwood. He has no charisma, and is literally impossible to like in every scene he's in. You never sympathize with him or understand his delusional, probably made-up worldview. He's pretty much the embodiment of evil, but was intentionally written that way, obviously (as he's a villain). All I'm saying is that he's probably the most unlikable character in film/TV history

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:10:09 AM »
most unlikable character ever is noah cross btw, intentionally so
if they're intentionally unlikable then that means they're actually likable
makes literally negative sense

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 02:06:07 AM »
most unlikable character ever is noah cross btw, intentionally so
YouTube

YouTube

Seriously, even if you don't want to watch the movie I highly recommend everyone at least watch these two scenes

John Huston is a chillingly good actor


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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:59:16 AM »
ron swanson is like if you tried to write the most unlikable possible character ever, to a point where nobody could ever top it
lol I dislike ron for his hyper masculinity but he's not unlikable to that extent

as aria said, it's not like he's a bigot or anything, and he and leslie (later he and april) have a really great relationship

most unlikable character ever is noah cross btw, intentionally so

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:46:53 AM »
why don't you watch something cool like house of cards or narcos
HOC is so overindulgent and not nearly as smart as it pretends to be - pretty much Dexter with politics
i do not take your opinions on tv shows seriously
Right back at ya

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:46:20 AM »
also what do you think of Parks & Rec
I used to watch that show SO much. It has so many great characters and gags, I'm just a bit worn out of it if you get what I mean.
literally the best part of the whole show IMO
YouTube

YouTube

I love when Ben gets super into something, and this is no exception. His smugness in these clips makes me laugh every time

in terms of pure humor though, the town meeting scenes are legendary
YouTube
Spoiler
#ExceptForTurnip
Top 5 characters in order:
1) Ben
2) Donna
3) Chris
4) Leslie
5) Ron

shoutout to Ann Perkins, who is great but doesn't make the list for reasons

protip: On subsequent viewings, start on 208. It makes it leagues more pleasant to watch.


Chris is so great lmao, he Ben and Leslie make the show for me

I don't like Ron for obvious reasons lol

and I usually start with "The Master Plan", when Chris and Ben get introduced. Though it is interesting/uncanny to watch S1 with Mark Brendanaquitz

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:42:24 AM »
why don't you watch something cool like house of cards or narcos
HOC is so overindulgent and not nearly as smart as it pretends to be - pretty much Dexter with politics

I want to watch Narcos but can never get over that guy's face

anyway this post implies Twin Peaks isn't a literal god in tv show form, so its dumb lol

also Underwood does the whole "morally-grey/evil protagonist" 100x better than Walter White
In the same way 2 Fast 2 Furious is more intense than No Country For Old Men, sure. Underwood is straight up a villain protagonist, from the very first episode. There's no progression or room for doubt. He's so confident in what he's doing, and nothing can shake him.

Walter White personifies delusion. He deludes his family, his enemies, and himself. He truly believes he's "doing it all for my family", because if he's not, then he has nothing to live for. So we have five seasons of Walt, tied down by his constant insecurities and hubris, create situations that a normal man could easily avoid. Walt is a logical genius, but has the emotional maturity of a middle schooler.

That's a far more interesting protagonist than Frank "killing all my rivals for more power then expositing to the camera about it" Underwood

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:37:26 AM »
also what do you think of Parks & Rec
I used to watch that show SO much. It has so many great characters and gags, I'm just a bit worn out of it if you get what I mean.
literally the best part of the whole show IMO
YouTube

YouTube

I love when Ben gets super into something, and this is no exception. His smugness in these clips makes me laugh every time

in terms of pure humor though, the town meeting scenes are legendary
YouTube
Spoiler
#ExceptForTurnip

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The Flood / Re: um wow bitch, excuse you
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:16:58 AM »

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:12:08 AM »
you became cool once I started to notice you weren't just a depressing verb lite

also A1 tastes in media which is all I care about in a person



what's the most immoral thing you'd do for $10 million

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The Flood / Re: um wow bitch, excuse you
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:09:25 AM »
who is this annie slut?


im not sure what this show is but im really feeling some misogynistic vibes from it



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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:51:21 AM »
jacob is/has/never will be funny tho
i've made you laugh several times on discord
I'm a v polite person

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The Flood / Re: um wow bitch, excuse you
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:50:17 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:47:16 AM »
jacob is/has/never will be funny tho

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:45:33 AM »
so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

yeah, revert to nonexistence

right

i need to know if we're on the same page
if you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol

cut me some slack man i've been working since 7 this morning and i've ad like 300 conversatins with just you in this thread so i can't keep track

i'm assuming you mean revertng to non-existence is the more realistic goal we should strive for
yes lol

but not on a personal level - anyone can just kill themselves

on a personal level, happiness (which there is no such thing as an "artificial" kind - just short-term and long-term) is the ultimate goal

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:33:15 AM »
I enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.
good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
you guys have been my OTP since like 2015

OTP?
definition

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:31:33 AM »
so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

yeah, revert to nonexistence

right

i need to know if we're on the same page
if you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:30:28 AM »
I still disagree that tumblr/first world problems people are annoying though

I'm never going to be annoyed by you if you're right, no matter how well or terribly you present yourself about it

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:28:09 AM »
so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:22:49 AM »
i'm not terribly lucid right now so i apologize in advance if my messages are poorly worded
verb trying weed confirmed

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:57:01 PM »
there is way too much fucking is-based mentality in the world

who gives a fuck about ises, shoulds are what matter

life should suck
life should be perfect

if life was perfect like nonexistence is (suffering not even being a concept) then it would be stupid to be an antinatalist

maybe in the sense that you're still breaking consent and forcing someone to exist, but existence would be preferable to nonexistence in that case anyway

yeah, but life can't be perfect, so your "should" is irrelevant.
Wrong, just because something can't happen doesn't mean it shouldn't. Life can't be perfect, which is why procreation is immoral. But the IS there doesn't fucking matter. Procreation shouldn't be immoral, because life should be perfect.

"hey guys i'm an antinatalist"

you're saying stuff i agree with, dude. you just like the idea of living more than i do because you're more narcissistic. i'd rather not exist than exist in a perfect reality.
believe me, I'm far from narcissistic

if anything, I have more passion for the world than you - not even cultures or sociological stuff, but just pure media and storytelling. Even the base idea of a story from thousands of years ago, the debate over whether they were "lies" or not, is so interesting.

idk why people continue with this narcissist meme, maybe my persona from 2014 but not me in reality

and why wouldn't you want to exist in a perfect reality? It's just as perfect as nonexistence, but you also get to experience pleasure. So in a way, more perfect than nonexistence.

i'm not trying to insult you by saying you're a narcissist.

i don't want to exist in a perfect reality because it would be boring. human being cannot exist without suffering, so there's really no way of knowing what that would be like, and what i picture in my head is not worth it.
I know you weren't, it's a description not an insult - just one that doesn't apply to me

and yeah, it would be hard to explain or picture a "perfect existence" because it would be so far removed from what it's like to be human now. In a perfect existence, the constant bliss and pleasure would never get boring, and humanity wouldn't need suffering to understand pleasure

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:47:29 PM »
there is way too much fucking is-based mentality in the world

who gives a fuck about ises, shoulds are what matter

life should suck
life should be perfect

if life was perfect like nonexistence is (suffering not even being a concept) then it would be stupid to be an antinatalist

maybe in the sense that you're still breaking consent and forcing someone to exist, but existence would be preferable to nonexistence in that case anyway

yeah, but life can't be perfect, so your "should" is irrelevant.
Wrong, just because something can't happen doesn't mean it shouldn't. Life can't be perfect, which is why procreation is immoral. But the IS there doesn't fucking matter. Procreation shouldn't be immoral, because life should be perfect.

"hey guys i'm an antinatalist"

you're saying stuff i agree with, dude. you just like the idea of living more than i do because you're more narcissistic. i'd rather not exist than exist in a perfect reality.
believe me, I'm far from narcissistic

if anything, I have more passion for the world than you - not even cultures or sociological stuff, but just pure media and storytelling. Even the base idea of a story from thousands of years ago, the debate over whether they were "lies" or not, is so interesting.

idk why people continue with this narcissist meme, maybe my persona from 2014 but not me in reality

and why wouldn't you want to exist in a perfect reality? It's just as perfect as nonexistence, but you also get to experience pleasure. So in a way, more perfect than nonexistence.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:43:32 PM »
Every job. Really. Every job?
Every job.

consider the possibility that you're a very fortunate person
Haven't you admitted to not wanting to work in physical labour?
just because i don't want to doesn't mean i haven't tried 20 or 30 times anyway

jobs aren't about what you want

define "tried"

i'm genuinely convinced you're all doing something wrong here. i've had no problem getting myself and my friends jobs. my first real job i literally just walked up to the guy and asked him if i could work for him.
it's almost like different regions have different job availabilities

yeah, sure, but they shouldn't be all that different. look further away from your area. i mean, i drive an hour to work for my job.
I have a job

and yeah, they are very different

I couldn't find shit for work when I was vacationing in MI, but there are tons of jobs here

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