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« on: June 13, 2017, 03:53:44 PM »
is this it
is this what people mean when they say "deflecting"
4232
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:51:49 PM »
also I find it great that this word triggers you literally this much
Incorrect
oh okay so you just have like an add-on that pings you whenever the word is posted somewhere?
did deci make it
What the fuck are you on about?
You jump on every instance of the word, even correct ones.
Never, outside of the last post, have I ever done so. Literally.
literally my mistake, confused you with this guy
4233
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:48:02 PM »
Maybe I should have cut out the second half so illiterates didn't jump on it, but to be clear: I'm referring to the first definition.
I literally always use literally correctly because I literally respect the literal definition of the word
when something is literally overused, it literally doesn't mean it's misused
i don't disagree, but the point is, it's BEST used when what you're saying would have otherwise been considered figurative, hyperbolic, or metaphorical
not mundane shit
I would agree, which is why it's an overused word. But it's easier and more effective to use it as italics, a sentence enhancer.
4234
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:44:39 PM »
Might makes right is argumentum ad populum, just worded in a less pretentious way. wrong
might makes right is the principle that the physically strong have moral precedence over the weak
something i vehemently disagree with
the not-pretentious way to say "argumentum ad populum" is "appeal to majority"
might makes right is a completely separate thing, because it states that one physically strong man has moral priority over a hundred physically WEAK men, just because they cannot defend themselves against the stronger man
Actually, might makes right refers to the idea that if I can dominate you physically, I also dominate you ideologically. It can be applied on a national, social, or individual scale. But words and phrases, you know, evolve, and it's apt and clever to use it as "if I can dominate you by majority opinion, I also dominate you ideologically." And you literally just made that argument lmao, "pointing out" something is making an argument. no, it isn't
if i point out that your fly is down, i'm not making an argument, i'm pointing it out to embarrass you
You're making a point, which is a board of an argument. Argument [2]: a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.The argument "your fly is down" is trying to either a) persuade others that the action of pulling it up is right, if you're trying to help; or b) persuade others that the idea that it's down is embarassing, if you're not. There's a reason why statements in coding are called "arguments". Again, why does it matter if I'm disagrees with? That has no bearing on the truth.
it doesn't, but it's still worth pointing out
If it didn't matter, it wouldn't be worth pointing out. I swear, you've secretly started tripping acid habitually over the past year or some shit
4235
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:32:17 PM »
4236
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:31:24 PM »
also I find it great that this word triggers you literally this much
Incorrect
oh okay so you just have like an add-on that pings you whenever the word is posted somewhere?
did deci make it
What the fuck are you on about?
You jump on every instance of the word, even correct ones.
4237
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:30:49 PM »
Every time someone uses the word "literally" incorrectly.
So never?
I can literally take pictures when I go on friday if you want fam
Literally
Maybe "take a shot every time the word literally is overused", but not misused lol
when the dictionary has the word "informal" in the definition, that basically means "this is WRONG but people say it like this anyway, but it's still wrong"
Yeah, I agree. What's your point? Maybe I should have cut out the second half so illiterates didn't jump on it, but to be clear: I'm referring to the first definition. I literally always use literally correctly because I literally respect the literal definition of the word when something is literally overused, it literally doesn't mean it's misused
4238
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:28:07 PM »
Key difference is that while a show like Breaking Bad might employ violence to further the plot/characters, it's never glorified or glamorized. The violence is always presented in a negative light.
Your avatar straight up romanticized graphic violence against the president. Apples and oranges.
i mean i explained rather plainly how it didn't, and nobody disagreed but you
lmao is the fallacy crusader literally trying to say might makes right
...no?
"might makes right" is probably the dumbest aphorism in the entire book
the argument that you THINK i'm making is actually an argumentum ad populum, appeal to majority
but i'm not arguing from that, i'm simply pointing out that the majority of people disagree with you
Might makes right is argumentum ad populum, just worded in a less pretentious way. And you literally just made that argument lmao, "pointing out" something is making an argument. Again, why does it matter if I'm disagreed with? That has no bearing on the truth.
4239
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:17:25 PM »
also I find it great that this word triggers you literally this much
Incorrect
oh okay so you just have like an add-on that pings you whenever the word is posted somewhere? did deci make it
4240
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:15:58 PM »
Key difference is that while a show like Breaking Bad might employ violence to further the plot/characters, it's never glorified or glamorized. The violence is always presented in a negative light.
Your avatar straight up romanticized graphic violence against the president. Apples and oranges.
i mean i explained rather plainly how it didn't, and nobody disagreed but you
lmao is the fallacy crusader literally trying to say might makes right I don't give a shit if you polled the nation of spain and everyone unanimously agreed it was tasteful and didn't glamorize violence it wasn't, and it did
4241
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:14:27 PM »
also I find it great that this word triggers you literally this much
4242
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:13:20 PM »
Every time someone uses the word "literally" incorrectly.
So never? I can literally take pictures when I go on friday if you want fam
Literally
Maybe "take a shot every time the word literally is overused", but not misused lol
4243
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:09:59 PM »
Entertainment media masquerading as news.
Nothing really does that. No source that identifies as "news" is entertaining to anyone but news savants.
News masqurading as entertainment media, on the other hand...
The rise of ESPN-style newsrooms on networks such as FOX and CNN would disagree. The goal isn't to inform anymore, it's to get your heart racing.
That could be considered entertainment in the news (which only makes sense - news shows, like all programs, are designed solely to capture viewers), but I wouldn't say employing those diversions recategories the entire show into an entertainment medium.
CNN owner Zucker has outright stated that "the idea of politics as sports is undeniable ... and we approached it that way", and doesn't consider his pro-Trump panelists to be spokespeople for a world view, but instead "characters in a drama".
It is literally just a drama based on current events.
That's his opinion, and that's great. But adding a little entertainment to a news show doesn't morph the genre into something else. If the entertainment aspects took over the network and the majority of air time was devoted to those ESPN-esque segments, then sure. But from what you've said, that doesn't seem to be the case. You can watch people succeed, suffer, die, win, and lose without anyone actually getting hurt.
pretty sure you tried claiming that i was a bad person for finding entertainment in fictional violence the other day bucko
Key difference is that while a show like Breaking Bad might employ violence to further the plot/characters, it's never glorified or glamorized. The violence is always presented in a negative light. Your avatar straight up romanticized graphic violence against the president. Apples and oranges.
4244
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:57:57 PM »
autism^
4245
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:57:15 PM »
we all feed
on tragedy
it's like blood to a vampire
why can't we just admit it
Maybe, but it's immoral to make the suffering of real people about you / beneficial to you. Hence why the news is terrible and entertainment media (not just television; any story at all) is awesome. You can watch people succeed, suffer, die, win, and lose without anyone actually getting hurt.
4246
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:55:07 PM »
Entertainment media masquerading as news.
Nothing really does that. No source that identifies as "news" is entertaining to anyone but news savants.
News masqurading as entertainment media, on the other hand...
The rise of ESPN-style newsrooms on networks such as FOX and CNN would disagree. The goal isn't to inform anymore, it's to get your heart racing.
That could be considered entertainment in the news (which only makes sense - news shows, like all programs, are designed solely to capture viewers), but I wouldn't say employing those diversions recategories the entire show into an entertainment medium.
4247
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:53:20 PM »
Is there a difference between the two? Yes? One is where you get biased facts that make you feel better about your beliefs, the other is where you get entertainment/deep thought. And social media has the most control.
I can agree with this. The majority of Americans watch primetime TV for at least an hour every night, but the vast, vast majority use social media. Only exception would be the elderly, who consume entertainment media (crime procedurals in particular) and the news way more than they use social media. But they don't drive an iota of change compared to the active generations, so it's a moot contrast.
4248
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:49:13 PM »
Entertainment media masquerading as news.
Nothing really does that. No source that identifies as "news" is entertaining to anyone but news savants. News masqurading as entertainment media, on the other hand...
4249
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:25:29 PM »
Entertainment media is what directs social change. Holy fuck you guys are dumb. Finally, someone with common s Why else does the Jew want to controll Hollywood and tv network companies? It's to disseminate his white genocide race mixing propaganda on a medium that we all consume and emulate.
4250
« on: June 13, 2017, 01:20:17 PM »
Imgur community is liberal trash
UM no?? it's borderline sep7agon level see what I literally just posted for proof
4251
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:47:35 PM »
and lmao @ this poll
The person who watches MSNBC is already on MSNBC's side. The person who watches FOX News is already on FOX's side. No change will be made by 1/5 of the population watching media that agrees with them anyway.
Conservatives and liberals consume entertainment media hungrily. An offhand remark in BBT about Trump will have far more effect on the population than a piece on the nightly news about Trump.
4252
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:45:34 PM »
It's almost as if every credible definition of an Average American is only about a persons housing, income, and unemployment and has nothing to do with their personal interests. I don't know what definition you're using, but it's far from the idea of defining an Average American.
Um, wrong? I'm not using "average" as the medium, I'm using it as the mode. Someone can be average in their responsibilities or job, but this thread is about television. 2/3 of Americans watch primetime TV every night, and thus the average American watches primetime TV. This isn't even about defining what average means - it's about a provable fact.
4253
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:42:23 PM »
4254
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:36:57 PM »
LMAO at this poll being 3-1, really shows how unintelligent sep7 really is
Let me answer the poll for anyone not paying attention or just dumb: People drive change. The larger society does. And when you have one medium that reaches 214 million people every night for four hours, and another that reaches 64 million for one hour, one is going to be far more influential.
Maverick agreeing with you shows that you're wrong.
No shame in that.
Not how it works  does this mean that television is magically bad now is The Sopranos a bad show if a serial killer likes it
4255
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:31:59 PM »
LMAO at this poll being 3-1, really shows how unintelligent sep7 really is Let me answer the poll for anyone not paying attention or just dumb: People drive change. The larger society does. And when you have one medium that reaches 214 million people every night for four hours, and another that reaches 64 million for one hour, one is going to be far more influential.
4256
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:31:11 PM »
What is an "Average American"? What, am I Chinese spy? An Indian business man?
I work, pay taxes, go to school, live a mundane life, I think that's pretty average.
You react this way every time somebody says this, and every time you're surprised again. This isn't hard stuff. You're an American, just not one that fits into how the majority of them act.
4257
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:30:22 PM »
WTF how am I not?
Ian is not an average American.
The average American does not: - Watch anime.
- Post on Internet boards.
- Like to dress up as the opposite sex.
- Play Japanese video games.
- Like Disney to the extent you do.
- Not watch primetime TV.
- Not watch a sport regularly.
- Get offended when they're called "not normal".
Note that this doesn't mean the average American is right, only that you aren't one.
4258
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:11:32 PM »
Interesting, I thought they were still pushing the Russia thing.
Political analysts agree that it was Trump's constant and dominating presence in newsmedia that allowed him to win. The news says that, not anyone who bases their findings on fact.
Oh hey look, an example of my point.
Thanks Ian.
Ian is not an average American. Notice how I didn't cite a single person agreeing with me ITT as "proving my point'
4259
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:10:05 PM »
  when you objectively disprove someone's bullshit lmao just stop michael
4260
« on: June 13, 2017, 11:45:52 AM »
Pretty much impossible to say without some kind of research but I'd speculate entertainment has more of a subconscious influence.
Exactly. Kinda hard for it not to when it reaches so many more people, and for so much longer (do people buy DVDs of old news broadcasts like they buy old seasons of Friends or Seinfeld?)
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