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The Flood / Re: Fuck all black people
« on: June 15, 2017, 05:34:53 PM »
was this really what arguing with me was like back in the day
lol I don't literally ignore logic/syllogism other people post
tell me what you think a syllogism is

this should be good
literally just a chain of logic
nope

you have to explain how one works
all monkeys are brown

all brown things live in africa

all monkeys live in africa

you literally learn what a syllogism is in elementary school why are you challenging me on this

do you think this is some advanced concept lmao

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The Flood / Re: Once upon a time...
« on: June 15, 2017, 03:20:06 AM »


best character tbh

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it's selfish and character damaging in terms of social interaction to recognize those biases and choose to not do anything about them, in other words

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There's nothing wrong with it morally at all,  you're not affecting anyone with inner thoughts. Notice how I've only said 'ethically' itt - it's socially irresponsible and selfish to keep those thoughts in your head, where they can indirectly affect your acts, instead of taking the proactivity to rid yourself of objectively immoral thoughts.

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The Flood / Re: Fuck all black people
« on: June 15, 2017, 03:04:25 AM »
was this really what arguing with me was like back in the day
lol I don't literally ignore logic/syllogism other people post
tell me what you think a syllogism is

this should be good
literally just a chain of logic

do you think I'm retarded, I'm sure Jive knows what a syllogism is and he's practically comatose at this point

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You don't disagree with me. See how I said "as soon as you realize". Even if the thought is unconscious, it's still a bad thought, but you aren't bad until you identify the thought and don't fight against it.
As long as "fight against it" includes "acting on it" or "intentionally encouraging someone else to act on it", then everything should be hunky-dory.
Nah lol, not fighting against it means nothing but not trying to eliminate the bad subconscious thought from your mind

If I had racist tendencies subconsciously and then one day suddenly realized that, I would be a shitty person if I didn't try to actively change it
I mean, actively changing it would be doing your best to reduce or eliminate that bias. For real, not all thoughts can be eliminated outright. You can just do your best to ignore or act in the opposite of them.
only spoilered to reduce the use of pity points
I have OCD, and it is a living nightmare to have awful thoughts of people I don't know. While it sucks, it has also given me the perspective that all people deal with bad thoughts to some extent, and the good ones are the people who I can't know the bad thoughts of since they decline to act upon them.
OCD is a mental condition, bigotry/learned biases aren't

Spoiler
I definitely had some level of OCD when I was a kid, or at least the symptoms of it. Always related to night rituals and such because of my sleep issues

I don't really feel it today tho, I guess with really minor things like drawers or needing to correct superstitions I break even though I know it's bullshit

nothing to your level though, that's pretty terrible

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The Flood / Re: Fuck all black people
« on: June 15, 2017, 02:24:30 AM »
Class pls, I want to discuss this in a reasonable context. :(
was this really what arguing with me was like back in the day
lol I don't literally ignore logic/syllogism other people post

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You don't disagree with me. See how I said "as soon as you realize". Even if the thought is unconscious, it's still a bad thought, but you aren't bad until you identify the thought and don't fight against it.
As long as "fight against it" includes "acting on it" or "intentionally encouraging someone else to act on it", then everything should be hunky-dory.
Nah lol, not fighting against it means nothing but not trying to eliminate the bad subconscious thought from your mind

If I had racist tendencies subconsciously and then one day suddenly realized that, I would be a shitty person if I didn't try to actively change it

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____TOP 3_____
1. Johnny Karate
2. Burt Macklin
3. Andy Dwyer
nah, Burt Macklin made a kid cry by pointing a finger gun at him

1. Johnny Karate
2. Andy Dwyer (S2+)
3. Burt Macklin
everyone knows brendanaquitz beats all tbh

how can you lose if you don't play the game

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thoughts shouldn't be crimes or anything like verb thinks, but holding some thoughts is definitely unethical in and of itself
Disagree. Thoughts aren't conscious; you can have thoughts and simultaneously disagree with them. Penultimate example is OCD, even more specifically Pure-O OCD. Thoughts are the result of the unconscious mind, which deliberates upon all things regardless of a person's ideologies.

Thinking someone has a "punchable face" (only in quotation marks due to the nature of the conversation) is not something someone considers on the conscious level, but the unconscious level.
You don't disagree with me. See how I said "as soon as you realize". Even if the thought is unconscious, it's still a bad thought, but you aren't bad until you identify the thought and don't fight against it.

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I use thoughts, not hormone driven emotions.

then why did you let yourself get asshurt enough to make an entire separate thread to take the piss out of aria and verb
getting mad enough to assault a human being =/= getting irritated enough to make a point, not difficult stuff

and LOL jacob liked this post? lmao I thought this dude was supposed to be this big intellectual

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Even then, I could argue the "punchable" bit too. While Shkreli is an evil person, I would personally feel he's been wronged if he was hit outside of some pre-agreed action (for some PR charity or something).

Point is, it doesn't mean that you want a person to be punched, it's just a cultural way of expressing the idea that they exude the very concept of being a terrible person.
I feel that the phrase is evil at worst (if taken at face value) and misleading and unnecessary at best. You can't look at a person's appearance and judge them, that's so fucked up

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either you say someone has a punchable face literally, in which you're using bigotry to justify violent thoughts; or figuratively, in which you're using ever-changing moods and (usually) unintentional "negative" expressions to justify violent thoughts

pro backpedaling, but the alternative is bad too
Have I said anything else so far? My b if so, I'm not always great at expressing my points.

And I'm fine with thoughts, so long as they don't become actions or calls-to-action
thoughts shouldn't be crimes or anything like verb thinks, but holding some thoughts is definitely unethical in and of itself

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class stop acting like a chode
tbh it's Verb-tier

All parties may take that as they will
saying someone has a punchable face is saying they're at fault for their facial features

this is not an issue of semantics
Face is shorthand for "typical expressions". Some people look dweeby, some look smug, some look like they practice in a mirror. Regardless, the term (like most lingual shorthand) refers to certain traits that the average person attributes to expression (facial or chosen, such as hairstyle or accessory choice) because of inherent biases created by the media or personal experience.
Like tbh the perfect example of this definition is in this thread, where Verb (wrongly) believes Adam Scott has a punchable face, which is the result of his experiences both personal and from the media (maybe he watched Step Brothers one too many times, idk)
even if this were true, it isnt good

people say "punchable face" like a) it's some universal rule and b) theyre in the right for thinking that way

as soon as you realize you dislike someone because of bias/history/their facial expressions, you should step back and realize youre being shitty, then stop doing it

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Martin doesn't have a punchable face



look me in the eye and tell me you wouldn't take a swing at this guy on principle
Nope, because I'm not an ape. I use thoughts, not hormone driven emotions. So the guy has unappealing facial features/expressions. Who fucking cares enough to make up a whole bullshit phrase for it?

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class stop acting like a chode
tbh it's Verb-tier

All parties may take that as they will
saying someone has a punchable face is saying they're at fault for their facial features

this is not an issue of semantics
Face is shorthand for "typical expressions". Some people look dweeby, some look smug, some look like they practice in a mirror. Regardless, the term (like most lingual shorthand) refers to certain traits that the average person attributes to expression (facial or chosen, such as hairstyle or accessory choice) because of inherent biases created by the media or personal experience.
either you say someone has a punchable face literally, in which you're using bigotry to justify violent thoughts; or figuratively, in which you're using ever-changing moods and (usually) unintentional "negative" expressions to justify violent thoughts

pro backpedaling, but the alternative is bad too

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class stop acting like a chode
tbh it's Verb-tier

All parties may take that as they will
he wishes
Be honest, you get REALLY petty about semantics sometimes
i'm an english nerd, i have an excuse
Caring about semantics is dumb when everyone knows what the illocution is

unlike itt where you people think that saying punchable face means anything but what it sounds like

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The Flood / Re: Fuck all black people
« on: June 15, 2017, 01:10:21 AM »
at least post the thread this is in response to for context

better yet stop shitting up the flood with dumb salt
nope, I'm an actual bigot now - this is my new lifestyle, not in response to anything

verb and aria are allowed to be lol

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class stop acting like a chode
tbh it's Verb-tier

All parties may take that as they will
saying someone has a punchable face is saying they're at fault for their facial features

this is not an issue of semantics

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NEVER judge anyone for their physical traits, literal subhuman thinking. Even if 100% turned out to be douches, you shouldn't think they are until they prove themselves that way.
To note, the only person with a universally punchable face is Martin Shkreli (surprised more people don't think that about Trump). Everyone else is the result of experiences and internal biases.
Martin doesn't have a punchable face, nor does anyone. The closest you can get is being ugly, which is already subliminally discriminated against by society, no need to make it a stated discrimination too.

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The Flood / I love having things come up out of context in 5 years
« on: June 15, 2017, 01:05:01 AM »
no joke

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NEVER judge anyone for their physical traits, literal subhuman thinking. Even if 100% turned out to be douches, you shouldn't think they are until they prove themselves that way.

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If you see a white dude with wacky colored dreads, grills, and looks to be in his early 30s then the immediate assumption is that he's a terrible person (because 99.9% of the time it's true).
That's extremely fucked up. What about the fucking .1%? Fuck him, right?

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maybe if they stopped looking at the camera all the time

that gag isn't funny
"um maybe if they stopped doing the point of the show??"

Criticize the fucking genre if that's your problem. Don't pull this bigot "punchable face" card
i'll criticize both and everything else because nothing about the show (or any show in this genre) is good
you'll criticize people for their facial traits, got it

I'm going to become a straight up racist because of this thread, and if you say shit you're a fucking hypocrite

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wtf everyone on this show has brown faces!!?

never ever watching it for this reason
jacob potila is a racist

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maybe if they stopped looking at the camera all the time

that gag isn't funny
"um maybe if they stopped doing the point of the show??"

Criticize the fucking genre if that's your problem. Don't pull this bigot "punchable face" card

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If you're a condescending asshole and people want to hit you because of it, you don't have a "punchable face" lmao. Does your face have a thing to do with your personality?

this is why I discredit all of jacob's posts, he actually believes in this shit
I'd say people have punchable faces because they remind the average onlooker of someone they hate or (in the case of actors) they tend to play shitrag characters.
It's still a dumb expression

people dont control how they look

come up with a word like punchable aura if you want a phrase that justifies casual violence
Usually the term spreads outside the face, anyway

like Riff Raff
he has a hateable personality, not a punchable face

since when did we start using language for words that sound zingy instead of words that are correct

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wtf everyone on this show has brown faces!!?

never ever watching it for this reason

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If you're a condescending asshole and people want to hit you because of it, you don't have a "punchable face" lmao. Does your face have a thing to do with your personality?

this is why I discredit all of jacob's posts, he actually believes in this shit
I'd say people have punchable faces because they remind the average onlooker of someone they hate or (in the case of actors) they tend to play shitrag characters.
Nah

everyone's face on this show just looks smug and annoying
this is totally their fault and you're morally correct for using that as a basis for anything

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The Flood / Re: Would You Rather...
« on: June 15, 2017, 12:54:05 AM »
oh shit that avatar thread was about me

oh well ☠

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