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The Flood / Re: well I'm addicted to cigarettes now
« on: June 16, 2017, 07:17:48 PM »
You might as well try quitting now because it's only going to get more and more difficult.
no thanks I'd rather keep my job

my money > my health/mind

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The Flood / Re: well I'm addicted to cigarettes now
« on: June 16, 2017, 07:03:16 PM »
with how hard anti-drug sentiments are pushed in this country, i simply cannot comprehend what goes through the head of somebody who's willing to use any drug for any recreational purpose whatsoever

did you just have shitty parents, or someone who told you it wasn't that bad

what leads a person to be so stupid? i genuinely do not understand

someone help me
I care about getting through the day more than my health or social sentiments

not that hard to understand
but getting through the day without drugs is the easiest thing to do in the world
Despite how much you wish it so, not everyone is you

arent you the guy who couldnt even find a stressful minimum wage job in the year of our ryder 2017

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The Flood / Re: well I'm addicted to cigarettes now
« on: June 16, 2017, 06:52:50 PM »
alternatively, i hope my life goes to complete and utter shit within the next few years

give me the shittiest and most miserably depressing life possible, and make it last for 20 or 30 years

i'll STILL have the strength to never use drugs, or alcohol, or any fucking thing to help me cope but myself
good for you

not everyone has that strength

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The Flood / Re: well I'm addicted to cigarettes now
« on: June 16, 2017, 06:50:11 PM »
sometimes i've considered getting myself addicted to some drug, only to prove how easy it is to quit

just as a big, heartfelt FUCK YOU to anyone who has ever been addicted to anything, because that's how i feel about you, and i want to prove how much stronger i am than every other weak-willed fuck on this shitcunt planet

but maybe that wouldn't be smartβ€”not because i couldn't do it, but because there's no real reason to be that spiteful
I could just, you know, not smoke

but I choose to continue, no one's fault but my own

it's a 5 minute buzz that destresses you for a half hour or an hour - has nothing on weed or DXM. But I can't get stoned or trip at work. I actually only take up the habit when I have a job for a reason

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The Flood / Re: well I'm addicted to cigarettes now
« on: June 16, 2017, 06:49:18 PM »
with how hard anti-drug sentiments are pushed in this country, i simply cannot comprehend what goes through the head of somebody who's willing to use any drug for any recreational purpose whatsoever

did you just have shitty parents, or someone who told you it wasn't that bad

what leads a person to be so stupid? i genuinely do not understand

someone help me
I care about getting through the day more than my health or social sentiments

not that hard to understand

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The Flood / Re: well I'm addicted to cigarettes now
« on: June 16, 2017, 05:09:02 PM »
oh shit son





v true

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The Flood / smoking thread
« on: June 16, 2017, 05:06:56 PM »

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 03:37:17 AM »
and yes it is an error lmao

basically saying to sell out

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 03:36:19 AM »
Don't blame the error of sacrificing integrity for public acceptableness as an excuse to make more errors
it's not an error

why do you want to kill children so much anyway
I don't. That's why I like games like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy so much; you can't kill people in general, and the reasons why make sense. Nonviolent AND logically consistent.

Unlike games like Fallout. In order to maintain logical consistency, you shouldn't be able to kill anyone, you should only be able to kill non-innocents but have a canonically defined moral character + a character itself lmao, there should be no children present (far less weird to have scarce children in a PA scenario than invincible kids), or children should have a stated, in-lore description of why they're invincible.

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:55:21 AM »
"if you don't want to kill kids don't have kids in the game"

have you considered the idea that it was a tradeoff for them

maybe the cost of having some MINOR inconsistency with how the game handles its violence did not exceed the cost of having a weird fucking universe where there are no children for some mysterious, impossible-to-explain reason

maybe they were willing to make that sacrifice, and it's a good sacrifice, because it doesn't make sense to not have some kids running around, especially if there were kids running around in fallout 1 and fallout 2

in other words, the game would be WORSE if it had no children vs. if there are children, except you can't hurt them

and the risks associated with giving the player the power to kill children simply wasn't worth it, and has no overall bearing on the purpose of the game itself
YouTube

Don't blame the error of sacrificing integrity for public acceptableness as an excuse to make more errors

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:52:53 AM »
That would make sense if the lone wanderer were a character and not an insert for the player

if anything, you could argue this about new vegas
every video game protagonist is an insert for the player

that's the point of a video game

that doesn't mean you're not playing as a character
LOL WHAT

just because you're seeing it from their point of view doesn't mean you have to represent them

in some games, sure - but it's not a rule

am I representing Holden Caulfield when I read catcher? I'd really hope not, and I'm not. A first person POV is just a pov

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:37:05 AM »
You're the one who went on about Megaton. There's in-game lore about children dying in the nuclear blasts 200 years ago, not to mention the skeletons of tons of kids throughout the game world.
even if the bullshit you were spewing was true, that still doesn't even contradict anything

kids can die in fallout 3 because they die in the loreβ€”okay, fine

that does not necessarily mean that the Lone Wanderer can kill them himself

if anything, you could argue that, no matter how evil the lone wanderer chose to be, he would never resort to killing children, which explains why the player can't do it either
That would make sense if the lone wanderer were a character and not an insert for the player

if anything, you could argue this about new vegas

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:33:10 AM »
Gameplay and plot are intertwined, they're both reflections of the logic of the universe. Neither is more important (in the sense of needing to follow established logic).
but you're wrong
see my second post above

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:32:46 AM »
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/939933-fallout-3/48064854

Lol you can't actually kill them.
aaaaaaahahahaha

i wonder if that's actually true

if so, get fucked carson
?

You're the one who went on about Megaton. There's in-game lore about children dying in the nuclear blasts 200 years ago, not to mention the skeletons of tons of kids throughout the game world.

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:31:33 AM »
you consistently cannot kill children in fallout 3
Nope, the logic that's established is "children cannot die from any number of nuclear payloads"

which goes against established in-game lore
gameplay can go against lore all the fuck it wants
oh my fucking god did you seriously just say that lmao

you are just so fucking backwards it's indescribable, why do I still try to talk to you

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:30:20 AM »
don't kids die if you blow up megaton though
which is a plot hole
nope, because not being able to kill children is not part of the plot

it's part of the gameplay

gameplay =/= plot
Holy shit are you legit retarded
Gameplay is supposed to be a simulation of the logic of the universe, just as a narrative is a chain of events through the logic of the universe.
Gameplay and plot are intertwined, they're both reflections of the logic of the universe. Neither is more important (in the sense of needing to follow established logic).

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:27:26 AM »
you consistently cannot kill children in fallout 3
Nope, the logic that's established is "children cannot die from any number of nuclear payloads"

which goes against established in-game lore

this is called a plot hole, aka unexplained inconsistency

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:24:50 AM »
don't kids die if you blow up megaton though
which is a plot hole

kids can't die from eight nukes to the face, but them being within a 100 yard radius of an rickety old-world bomb die immediately

as I said, it perverts the integrity of the world

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:22:34 AM »
All gameplay should be canon, that's the whole fucking ideal of a video game. It's obviously impossible to do it completely, in the same way that true immersion in a show or book is more or less impossible, but striving for that ideal is the point.

If you water it down with pointless holes in the sheet of the universe, you're lessening the integrity as a whole.

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:14:57 AM »
If you're going to be a hyper baby casul and play offline, I don't see why you shouldn't also have a pause feature.

I still don't understand why it's needed but to each their own.
LMAO judging people for how they use an item they bought

just stop

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:05:44 AM »
the point of fallout 3 is not to be a perfect simulation of real world physics
I definitely agree. It's supposed to be a simulation of the logic of the universe, just as a narrative is a chain of events through the logic of the universe. If I can kill a an adult, a bear, a big mutant that used to be a human, that means I can also kill any children or dogs I see. If I see one and drop a mini nuke on it, and it doesn't die, that means no children or dogs died in the end of the world 200 years ago. But wait! Here we have in-game lore saying they did! And so we get just blatant plot holes and objectively bad writing.

You have such an anti-thought, consumerist point of view.

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that's not the game's purpose, so it doesn't hurt the game if it doesn't allow you to do something that it wasn't designed to do in the first place
Every game is supposed to be a simulation of the logic of its universe. It wouldn't break the logic if you couldn't run around killing kids in Kingdom Hearts - you can't run around killing anybody. In Fallout, you can.

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it's not pertinent to the game's purpose to decapitate dogs, so you could make the case that they're unnecessary and should be removed, while all the other violence stays in, because it better suits the tone
Logical consistency is the most important part of any serious work, and is more important than tone by about seventy levels.

"Unnecessary?" lmao, it's unnecessary that if you kill the old overseer, a new one takes his place. It's unnecessary that if you're nice to Butch, he's more receptive to you later. Lol things making sense is super unnecessary my man

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yeah man, let your misanthropic bias cloud basic logic (actually this is more common sense): a human isn't here for any other reason than a dog. Every human is pressured by society into all sorts of different things, does what they can to cope with that / accept it, and then does that to others as part of the society. Again, all through no fault of their own, just of their programming. That's a lesser extent of evil than what a wild animal does in reality, but again, neither can be blamed or seen as evil because of it. If you hold one as being more sacred than the other, you're an idiot. If you see a mass murderer dying as being different than a dog dying, you'd be right. That's because the murderer's gratifying death is a consequence of their actions, not their birth.

If it's just an inherent, biased thing (dogs care unconditionally for their family, there has never been a dog mass murderer), then fine. But if you go beyond that and try to say an innocent dog's death is more tragic than an innocent human's that's very untrue

zero gore is the ideal irl

you could have a show like Breaking Bad be just as amazing and legendary if you took out all the violence, every drop of blood, and replaced it with implications and discretion shots
did not read LOL
haha what a deep thinker

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The Flood / Re: Anyone here deal with anxiety?
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:43:01 AM »
nah I'm ok

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:40:14 AM »
THEY didn't censor shit, the publisher did
bethesda would not have allowed you to kill children, and they would've been retarded to
Whatever, Beth shouldn't even write Fallout lmao

also
don't want that, don't have kids in the game

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fuck humans tbh
yeah man, let your misanthropic bias cloud basic logic (actually this is more common sense): a human isn't here for any other reason than a dog. Every human is pressured by society into all sorts of different things, does what they can to cope with that / accept it, and then does that to others as part of the society. Again, all through no fault of their own, just of their programming. That's a lesser extent of evil than what a wild animal does in reality, but again, neither can be blamed or seen as evil because of it. If you hold one as being more sacred than the other, you're an idiot. If you see a mass murderer dying as being different than a dog dying, you'd be right. That's because the murderer's gratifying death is a consequence of their actions, not their birth.

If it's just an emotional, biased thing (dogs care unconditionally for their family, there has never been a dog mass murderer), then fine. But if you go beyond that and try to say an innocent dog's death is more tragic than an innocent human's that's very untrue

zero gore is the ideal irl

you could have a show like Breaking Bad be just as amazing and legendary if you took out all the violence, every drop of blood, and replaced it with implications and discretion shots

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:23:51 AM »
Literally only because of censorship standards.
right, and they could've "censored" (read: not have) dog decaps as well, and no one would've minded except for sick fucks

i respect that the game has them, my point was just that i found it disturbing and that even i have my limits when it comes to gore in games
THEY didn't censor shit, the publisher did

if you get disturbed by violence to animals and aren't equally disturbed by violence to humans, I don't know what the fuck kind of mentality you have

your limit in gore in games should be zero gore

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:07:16 AM »
Well it wouldn't make any sense for you not to be able to? You can decapitate people, the same rules of logic would have to apply for everything.
i mean

not necessarily

you can't decapitate children
Literally only because of censorship standards. You could do everything to a child that you could do to an adult in the original Fallouts (which you should be able to do - don't want that, don't have kids in the game), but the world punished you in a logical, internally-consistent way. Not "I fired my rocket launcher at that magic black kid and he didn't seem to notice".

'M not treating it as a BAD thing

i'm treating it as a thing of bewilderment

like, what dark souls player is that sensitive? it's astonishing to me

either way, i think it's GREAT that the developers give sensitive people like that the option to turn off blood, and that was kinda my whole point
I mean, you can be sensitive and tough at the same time. Maybe someone loves the dark undertones of the game's story and world, but had their brother get eaten by a crocodile in front of them as a child and can't see any graphic content without getting psychologically triggered.

Different people are different. You're not going to be X just because you play the same game as someone else.

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:54:32 AM »
Blood is gore. The amount doesn't matter.

p much why Fallout/Dishonored can be too much sometimes
My understanding of "gore" has always been "body tissue," which includes blood, but it's a rectangle-is-not-a-square type relationship.

Otherwise, the common pairing of "blood and gore" is a redundancy.
I guess that makes sense

I still don't know why it's apparently some bad thing to be sensitive to violence though

you're sensitive to sex, which might be gross, but is straight up beautiful compared to pain and multilation and bodily harm
did you forget that i was quite disturbed by the fact that you can decapitate dogs in fallout 3, and the game treats it as this silly fun thing

i have my limits too, but dark souls is incredibly tame with the violence
Well it wouldn't make any sense for you not to be able to? You can decapitate people, the same rules of logic would have to apply for everything.

The better solution would be no decapitations/amputations (or an in-menu option), but even if someone is disturbed by a small amount of blood, dark souls or GTA IV level, you treat that as an bad thing

violence is a perversion of the human body, it shouldn't happen in the first place

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:46:07 AM »
Blood is gore. The amount doesn't matter.

p much why Fallout/Dishonored can be too much sometimes
My understanding of "gore" has always been "body tissue," which includes blood, but it's a rectangle-is-not-a-square type relationship.

Otherwise, the common pairing of "blood and gore" is a redundancy.
I guess that makes sense

I still don't know why it's apparently some bad thing to be sensitive to violence though

you're sensitive to sex, which might be gross, but is straight up beautiful compared to pain and multilation and bodily harm

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The Flood / Re: For once in your life, take a stand with pride
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:44:30 AM »
fun fact: when my sister showed Hamilton to me for the first time I thought it was retarded and refused to give it a chance

it reminded me of that cliche where the inner city teacher reaches her kids through rap and hip hop, I thought it was going to be some cheesy black lives matter kind of thing

really glad I stopped being stupid

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:37:17 AM »
Just look at options menu right nowβ€”there's an option to turn off blood. I always thought that was hilarious. The game barely even has any blood, yet there's still an option to turn it off if you're that squeamish.
is gore a gameplay element

yes or no please
No.

It's not even goreβ€”just a little blood.
Blood is gore. The amount doesn't matter.

p much why Fallout/Dishonored can be too much sometimes

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The Flood / Re: dark souls raped me
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:36:29 AM »
the average dark souls fan is against enabling pause because that affects the gameplay

gore doesnt

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