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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:15:34 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.
There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnel
Did you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.
I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course not
Yeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.
Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew.

Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful act
The whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.
lolno. Dying is nowhere in the job description to be a cop. A cop's job is to enforce the laws. And the cops did feel they were in direct danger. The guy reported to be waving a gun around was turning towards them and felt he was going to fire on them. You would feel EXACTLY the same way in the situation. Don't deny it
Yeah, when you know that you're fighting thieves, murderers, rapists, and thugs, you should really expect to have a vastly higher fatality rate than other professions. And it doesn't matter if he "thinks" he was in direct danger. The kid wasn't even pointing a weapon at him.
That doesn't mean dying is in the damn description. Nobody is willing to die by some punk and will take all measures to ensure they live, including not being an idiot and getting up close to a suspected dangerous individual

It does matter what he thought. Put yourself in the situation. Say you only know that the guy has what appears to be a weapon and only know that he has been waving it around and pointing it a people and you tell him to drop it. He turns to face you with the weapon in his hand and you think it's real and fire on him in danger of your safety.

That's what anybody else would do and what a cop would do, especially me once I become a cop. Because as I've said

Cops
Are
Not
All
Knowing
Beings

They
Only
Know
What
They
Are
Told
That's
Why
You
Don't
Go
For
The
Kill
Shot

27422
Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:13:18 PM »
He had a gun.


SHIT! Call in the fucking SWAT teams!!

27423
Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:09:48 PM »
And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description.

You're a fucking clown
Pretty ironic, coming from you.
Not at all. You're an edgy teenager.

"OH no, I got pulled over one time and got a ticket! Fuck pigs!!!". Actually, maybe that didnt happen. Are you even old enough to drive?
Not a teenager, never been pulled over. And yes, of course I am. This is less about this ridiculous personal vendetta against cops you seem to think I have, and much more about hating murderers.

Doing his job, not a murderer.
Killing unarmed teenagers whose only crimes are turning around is a cop's job? I guess murder is in the description, then.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:08:08 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.
There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnel
Did you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.
I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course not
Yeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.
Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew.

Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful act
The whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.
lolno. Dying is nowhere in the job description to be a cop. A cop's job is to enforce the laws. And the cops did feel they were in direct danger. The guy reported to be waving a gun around was turning towards them and felt he was going to fire on them. You would feel EXACTLY the same way in the situation. Don't deny it
Yeah, when you know that you're fighting thieves, murderers, rapists, and thugs, you should really expect to have a vastly higher fatality rate than other professions. And it doesn't matter if he "thinks" he was in direct danger. The kid wasn't even pointing a weapon at him.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:06:00 PM »
And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description.

You're a fucking clown
Pretty ironic, coming from you.
Not at all. You're an edgy teenager.

"OH no, I got pulled over one time and got a ticket! Fuck pigs!!!". Actually, maybe that didnt happen. Are you even old enough to drive?
Not a teenager, never been pulled over. And yes, of course I am. This is less about this ridiculous personal vendetta against cops you seem to think I have, and much more about hating murderers.

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Serious / Re: "White people did not exist before 1681"
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:04:22 PM »
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Black people did not exist before 1681
Fixed.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:01:49 PM »
And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description.

You're a fucking clown
Pretty ironic, coming from you.

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Serious / Re: If you don't like "under God" don't say it
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:01:11 PM »
Part of school is to TEACH respect.
Nope.

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Serious / Re: If you don't like "under God" don't say it
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:00:32 PM »
Nope, sorry. No freedom of speech in school.

Don't care about some Idaho court case.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent

Wikipedia LOLOLOLOL
Not really expecting you to read Wikipedia so much as introducing you to the objective idea of a legal precedent.

Introducing LOL
You've obviously never heard of it before, or you would understand the significance of "some Idaho court case".

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.
There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnel
Did you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.
I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course not
Yeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.
Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew.

Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful act
The whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.

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Serious / Re: If you don't like "under God" don't say it
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:55:25 PM »
Nope, sorry. No freedom of speech in school.

Don't care about some Idaho court case.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent

Wikipedia LOLOLOLOL
Not really expecting you to read Wikipedia so much as introducing you to the objective idea of a legal precedent.

27432
Serious / Re: If you don't like "under God" don't say it
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:53:47 PM »
Nope, sorry. No freedom of speech in school.

Don't care about some Idaho court case.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent

27433
Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:51:32 PM »
You would have walked up to someone actively aiming a gun? LOLOLOL
If I was a cop, I would've not been a total coward and kept demanding he drop the weapon, unless he aimed it directly at me. In which case I would've gone for the arm or leg, not immediately for the kill. And I definitely wouldn't have starting randomly yelling at him, then shot him just for turning around. The kid had no idea what was going on.

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Serious / Re: If you don't like "under God" don't say it
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:49:24 PM »


ITT

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:46:17 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.
There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnel
Did you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.
I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course not
Yeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.

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Serious / Re: If you don't like "under God" don't say it
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:43:05 PM »
Standing is a form of respect.
Exactly. And refusing to show respect is a right guaranteed by the Constitution.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.
There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnel
Did you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the cop didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:36:50 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.

Nice opinion there.
Thanks!

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PM »
I don't see any problem here.

Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shot

Police are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
There's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:31:19 PM »
Being on the phone is no excuse.

I can still hear a police officer while I'm on the phone.
Did you completely ignore the video? The cop never gave a warning. He yelled at the guy, the guy turned to face him, and the cop opened fire. The kid never raised the gun or expressed any threatening behaviour.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:20:36 PM »
after he didn’t listen to commands to drop the gun
He was on the phone, and didn't even know what was going on. Also, watch the video. They yelled at him, he spun around, and they shot him.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 01:05:25 PM »
if he was buggering around with an unboxed air rifle then it's not quite just shooting someone for buying Iced Tea <.<
Yeah, that's directly Walmart's fault. It's not like he unboxed it himself, it was sitting in plain sight on the shelf. And it wasn't like it was loaded or anything...

Yeah, they are certainly idiots for having it out like that.

And that's also true, but police are trained to treat all guns as loaded/lethal as far as I know. Hence why kids with toy guns and no common sense occasionally get shot down for pointing it at the police.
I think something similar happened here in britbongistan a while back, some idiotic kid pointing a toy pistol at the police and he got BTFO by them. Could have been the USA though, it was a while ago <.<
See, and that's dumb. When you become a police officer, you take the risk that you might die. Your job is to protect and serve, and shooting anyone that's holding a gun-looking object on sight is going to hurt a lot more innocents than criminals in the long run. Even so, you see a dangerous-looking man with a gun? Don't go for the head shot. Don't hit him in the neck. Aim for the leg, or the arm.

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:57:05 PM »
if he was buggering around with an unboxed air rifle then it's not quite just shooting someone for buying Iced Tea <.<
Yeah, that's directly Walmart's fault. It's not like he unboxed it himself, it was sitting in plain sight on the shelf. And it wasn't like it was loaded or anything...

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Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:48:59 PM »
after he didn’t listen to commands to drop the gun
He was on the phone, and didn't even know what was going on. Also, watch the video. They yelled at him, he spun around, and they shot him.
In that instance the officer(s) should be punished.
Of course they should be. They should be charged as any other murderer would. They fucking got off scot-free, though.

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The Flood / Re: Official Sep7agon Beach RP thread
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:47:23 PM »
*starts swimming*

27447
Serious / Re: Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:45:50 PM »
after he didn’t listen to commands to drop the gun
He was on the phone, and didn't even know what was going on. Also, watch the video. They yelled at him, he spun around, and they shot him.

27449
Serious / Police officer kills Walmart shopper for holding a BB gun
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:42:34 PM »
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Police said they responded to a 911 call of an armed man in the store outside of Dayton on Aug. 5, and that they shot Crawford after he didn’t listen to commands to drop the gun. It turns out it was an air rifle that can shoot BBs or fire pellets.

The video shows Crawford, while talking on a cellphone, picking up a pellet gun, which was out of its package and sitting on a shelf. His family said he was talking to the mother of his two children. Crawford continues to walk through Wal-Mart aisles and passes by other customers, who do not appear to react to his presence. The Xenia Gazette reports that Crawford passed by Ronald Ritchie, the man who called 911 and told a dispatcher that there β€œwas a gentleman walking around with a gun in the store,” that β€œhe’s like pointing it at people” and the man appeared to loading what looked like a rifle and β€œwaving it back and forth.” (A month later, Ritchie told the Guardian that Crawford never pointed the gun at anybody).
Link

Fucking ridiculous. This murderer didn't even get indicted. Your tax dollars at work!

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The Flood / Re: Rename the person above you
« on: September 27, 2014, 03:58:25 AM »

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