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24481
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:53:12 PM »
otherwise embrace their delusion instead of trying to heal it This blows my GODDAMN mind.
Men who are comfortable with being women should learn to like being men. Because: Reasons.
Reminds me of those Christian camps that are supposed to heal homosexuality.
If you're a man who wants to be a woman, that's bad in and of itself.
24482
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:52:13 PM »
...and hormone injections are all great ways to intelligently deal with the disorder, if you have it
Unintentionally says something not completely retarded. GG
Just to be clear, I'm talking about hormone injections to correct your disorder and get you back to the gender you were born as.
24483
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:51:25 PM »
If you think that trying to fuck up your body with senseless surgery is as damaging as smoking weed, there's not much left to argue about. You're too far gone. AWESOME, because that's not the fucking subject. It's transgenderism, not transexualism.
The title of the thread refers to traps, yo. That's slang for tranny. Tranny = changed your gender.
More for crossdressers than transfolk...
Ah, whatever. They're pretty much in the same ballpark, anyway.
24484
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:49:25 PM »
Then it appears that this is more a misunderstanding. You aren't disagreeing with transgendered persons taking steps to fix the issue by undergoing hormone therapy or SRS, you are talking about Tumblrfag special snowflakes.
I'm talking about those who: a) undergo gender reassignment surgery b) otherwise embrace their delusion instead of trying to heal it If you have GID, but are trying to overcome it, I have nothing but respect for you.
24485
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:46:36 PM »
If you think that trying to fuck up your body with senseless surgery is as damaging as smoking weed, there's not much left to argue about. You're too far gone. AWESOME, because that's not the fucking subject. It's transgenderism, not transexualism.
The title of the thread refers to traps, yo. That's slang for tranny. Tranny = changed your gender.
24486
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:45:54 PM »
It's just immoral.
I'm not going to get into a debate with you but you have a strange definition of morality.
I'd consider it pretty immoral to let a sufferer of a disease believe that he's healthy instead of actually trying to help him.
24487
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:44:16 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Intersex isn't a gender identification, Class.
Oh, I thought you were talking about something else. What you're talking about is just a birth defect, plain and simple. No need to have a whole social movement around it.
Transgenderism is also a birth defect (as far as we currently know). The "movement" is to attempt to remove misconceptions and de-stigmatize people who suffer from it. Like someone who is intersex, they are limited in options of fixing their problem. I'm quite certain that if there were an actual, reliable way to remove or alleviate the problem outside of SRS then most transgendered persons would opt for it. But there isn't outside of doing nothing, and doing nothing isn't a solution. It's ignoring the problem.
I know it is, that's what I've been talking to Verb about. And while destigmatizing people who suffer from these disorders is nice, it's not addressing the real root of the problem. Because of the whole social movement on behalf of TGs, and the fact that it's "bigotry" to see it as a disease, no real progress can be made on finding a medical solution. I know that there are currently other options, though, than fucking up your body in a vain and gross attempt to change what you can't.
I'd just like you to consider that Tumblr is an extremist view of the subject. And what other options are there? If you mean psychoanalysis, that's required to begin the hormone therapy in the first place. That way people who are just seeking a form of escapism don't commit rash and permanent changes to themselves.
Psychoanalysis, therapy, and hormone injections are all great ways to intelligently deal with the disorder, if you have it. People who go that route have my respect. Not those who foolishly indulge a serious delusion.
24488
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:42:50 PM »
I'm talking about damage to the individual. You fucking hypocrite.
You fucking pot-smoking goddamn fucking hypocrite.
If you think that trying to fuck up your body with senseless surgery is as damaging as smoking weed, there's not much left to argue about. You're too far gone.
24489
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:39:04 PM »
First off all, if you're even remotely capable of getting mad over people on the Internet, you need to reevaluate your life. Speak for yourself. Like I said, you're the only bigot I know who actually gets so livid over this shit. The only reason I'm angry now is because you're just basically just lying and putting words in my mouth--which is a completely rational thing to get pissed off over, because you're using intellectually dishonest means to do two things.
1. Sell your snake oil. 2. Act like I'm selling snake oil.
Instead of actually having a fair, rational discussion, as we were having. And then you fucked the pooch. I don't know why I expected to be able to discuss thing at all with you.
If you think I get upset over this topic, much less "livid", than you have a strange interpretation of my posts. And I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm just trying to talk about this subject. You're the one who seems to have a problem with the conversation. I have no idea what you're talking about with all this "snake oil" nonsense, by the way. As far as I can tell, we were having a fine discussion before you interrupted it with this whining. Letting a TG sufferer indulge in his delusion is no different than letting a schizophrenic indulge in his delusion. Demonstrate how. Don't just say, "they're both defects."
One is a harmful defect. The other is not.
I'm not talking about damage to others, I'm talking about damage to the individual. It's not ethical to let someone with an immense delusion live in that delusion their whole lives. At some point, actual medical care is needed.
24490
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:34:31 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Intersex isn't a gender identification, Class.
Oh, I thought you were talking about something else. What you're talking about is just a birth defect, plain and simple. No need to have a whole social movement around it.
Transgenderism is also a birth defect (as far as we currently know). The "movement" is to attempt to remove misconceptions and de-stigmatize people who suffer from it. Like someone who is intersex, they are limited in options of fixing their problem. I'm quite certain that if there were an actual, reliable way to remove or alleviate the problem outside of SRS then most transgendered persons would opt for it. But there isn't outside of doing nothing, and doing nothing isn't a solution. It's ignoring the problem.
I know it is, that's what I've been talking to Verb about. And while destigmatizing people who suffer from these disorders is nice, it's not addressing the real root of the problem. Because of the whole social movement on behalf of TGs, and the fact that it's "bigotry" to see it as a disease, no real progress can be made on finding a medical solution. I know that there are currently other options, though, than fucking up your body in a vain and gross attempt to change what you can't.
24491
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:30:51 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Male and female aren't genders
They're the only genders. Are you dense?
Are you? They're sexes, not genders. Man/Woman = gender
Gender and sex are synonyms. Man and male person are synonyms. Woman and female person are synonyms.
Except that's not true. Gender and sex aren't one and the same.
Jesus, when did this site turn into tumblr?
24492
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:29:31 PM »
If we let everyone with a mental disorder embrace it with pride, our society would crumble. You shouldn't encourage people's delusions. Who the fuck said we'd let everyone with a mental disorder embrace it? You stupid fuck? Now I'm just mad.
First off all, if you're even remotely capable of getting mad over people on the Internet, you need to reevaluate your life. Secondly, I was using the example to make a point. Letting a TG sufferer indulge in his delusion is no different than letting a schizophrenic indulge in his delusion. It's just immoral.
24493
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:26:57 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Male and female aren't genders
They're the only genders. Are you dense?
Are you? They're sexes, not genders. Man/Woman = gender
Gender and sex are synonyms. Man and male person are synonyms. Woman and female person are synonyms.
24494
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:26:08 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Intersex isn't a gender identification, Class.
Oh, I thought you were talking about something else. What you're talking about is just a birth defect, plain and simple. No need to have a whole social movement around it.
24495
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:24:21 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Male and female aren't genders
They're the only genders. Are you dense?
24496
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:19:03 PM »
What do you all think of intersex people?
Any gender identification outside male and female is laughable and shouldn't be taken seriously.
24497
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:17:46 PM »
Out of curiosity, if you could have been born without a gender, would you? if i had the choice of being born as a male, a female, or neither?
i would pick neither
>being this autistic
24498
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:16:54 PM »
You can't choose how you're born, but whether you're born as a boy or a girl, your identity is supposed to form around it. That's called hormones. And if you identify with the opposite sex, that's a mental defect. well, okay, so what if it is
who cares
why can't you just let them live how they're comfortable with living
i don't need to remind you that it doesn't hurt you, right
If we let everyone with a mental disorder embrace it with pride, our society would crumble. You shouldn't encourage people's delusions.
24499
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:08:25 PM »
Why are you scared of Jeff? Why is the fucking sky blue? I don't know.
I was once scared of Jeff, you know. The only way to overcome your fear is to expose yourself to the stimuli. Take a deep breath, relax, and view the image. Eventually you will feel nothing looking at it.
Fuck off
24500
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:07:19 PM »
Being a TG is trying to be a special snowflake or it's just a few people who would rather not have been born with the sex that they've been given
does that really sound so far-fetched
you can't choose anything about yourself before you're born--it's just given to you you really don't think that, somewhere along the line, fuck-ups will occur?
you really don't think that
You can't choose how you're born, but whether you're born as a boy or a girl, your identity is supposed to form around it. That's called hormones. And if you identify with the opposite sex, that's a mental defect.
24501
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:05:14 PM »
Why are you scared of Jeff? Why is the fucking sky blue? I don't know.
24502
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:01:57 PM »
People don't do that. Do you understand how very wrong you are?
"You can easily have a social life and smoke weed."
I never said you couldn't.
I've never met a loser (less than 5 friends) stoner in my whole life.
24503
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:00:36 PM »
neither is bigotry
Oh, lord 
Everything is bigotry these days. Insult someone's special snowflake syndrome and you're equatable to a racist. believe me, i'm with you on the special snowflake shit--sometimes, it gets gratuitous
but being transgendered is far from special and far from snowflake it's actually quite common
what i find interesting is just your hostility towards it
Being a TG is trying to be a special snowflake, it's just the most widespread of all the pedantic shit. I usually sound especially angry about it because it's just so disgusting. It's like talking about any other kind of birth defect, yet society has decided to embrace it for some reason. It's similar to the fat acceptance "movement". What transgenders need isn't encouragement, it's help.
24504
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:56:34 PM »
It's not that humans aren't "disdain-able", it's that the act of smoking weed isn't. Disdain and judge away if someone's actually doing something wrong. You don't think there's something wrong if people start using substances to substitute having a social life (and I'm the social reject?)?
People don't do that. Smoking weed isn't substituting anything, that's what you never seem to understand. It's just an addition. You can easily have a social life and smoke weed. Usually, it enhances your friendships.
24505
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:52:43 PM »
neither is bigotry
Oh, lord Everything is bigotry these days. Insult someone's special snowflake syndrome and you're equatable to a racist.
24506
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:49:41 PM »
What the fuck? Of course not. Anyone who would ever have sex with a tranny is a freak. i like when you say stuff like this
it makes me feel so intelligent and open-minded
Openmindedness is only good to a point. Tolerating shit like TGs isn't good for the image of a society.
24507
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:45:03 PM »
What the fuck? Of course not. Anyone who would ever have sex with a tranny is a freak.
24508
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:26:22 PM »
This thread is in the past.
you're mom is in the past
*your BITCH
24509
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:22:56 PM »
15 MINUTES IN AND ALREADY BEEN TOLD TO KILL MYSELF WAY TO WELCOME ME BACK
Don't worry, bro. You deserve it.
CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY?
>Christian extremist >Terrible and annoying gimmick >Likes vomit-inducing music >Abrasive and boring
24510
« on: January 19, 2015, 04:57:30 PM »
 I discovered Jesus
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