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« on: April 07, 2015, 06:16:33 PM »
Ugh, splitting my post up like that is so annoying, just type like a normal person. If I can go through the trouble of cutting down posts and organizing them on mobile you shouldn't be complaining.
And anyway, if you seriously think that ISIS actually has the potential to be an international threat, you're buying into the story more than I thought. At this point, they're more than capable of taking over the Middle East, but the second they step into Russian, European, American, or pretty much any other territory, they're done. Your life is literally in no danger.
Why the FUCK are you talking about ISIS as if they're the only group, or as if they're going to perform some sort of land invasion?
Dude, the problem is some radicalized kid can blow himself up in a train. That's the danger.
Yeah, which is an actual crime. Protesting isn't. Showing support for ISIS isn't. Like I said to Comms, obviously people like that should be put on some kind of watchlist and monitored closely, but to make the act of showing support for a group in and of itself illegal undermines the point of even having a country.
22262
« on: April 07, 2015, 06:14:13 PM »
The problem with the people ITT is that they're turning an issue of morality into an issue of politics. You act as if they're mutually exclusive.
This isn't even about ISIS, No, it isn't. Not sure why you assumed the guys were part of ISIS.
it's about the ideal of freedom of expression. The mere act of showing support for a group or idea, no matter how terrible that group or idea may be, is protected under the human code. Principles mean nothing if you're not willing to stand by them when it's inconvenient for you.
Dying is a pretty big inconvenience.
Ugh, splitting my post up like that is so annoying, just type like a normal person. And anyway, if you seriously think that ISIS actually has the potential to be an international threat, you're buying into the story more than I thought. At this point, they're more than capable of taking over the Middle East, but the second they step into Russian, European, American, or pretty much any other territory, they're done. Your life is literally in no danger.
Uh.
What?
IS has no capability whatsoever to take over the Middle East. Have you even been following recent events involving them?
And IS is becoming an international thread because as their actual ability to take, hold, and govern land declines, they are putting more and more of their resources into foreign attacks. So they could be a very big international threat in the future.
Yeah, which is why we should be putting our resources into that, not into blindly arresting peaceful protestors. The smart thing to do is to put heavy government surveillance around the ISIS apologists, catch them doing, you know, a crime...not arresting them simply for expressing their misguided view for a group.
22263
« on: April 07, 2015, 06:08:59 PM »
The problem with the people ITT is that they're turning an issue of morality into an issue of politics. You act as if they're mutually exclusive.
This isn't even about ISIS, No, it isn't. Not sure why you assumed the guys were part of ISIS.
it's about the ideal of freedom of expression. The mere act of showing support for a group or idea, no matter how terrible that group or idea may be, is protected under the human code. Principles mean nothing if you're not willing to stand by them when it's inconvenient for you.
Dying is a pretty big inconvenience.
Ugh, splitting my post up like that is so annoying, just type like a normal person. And anyway, if you seriously think that ISIS actually has the potential to be an international threat, you're buying into the story more than I thought. At this point, they're more than capable of taking over the Middle East, but the second they step into Russian, European, American, or pretty much any other territory, they're done. Your life is literally in no danger.
22264
« on: April 07, 2015, 06:00:07 PM »
The problem with the people ITT is that they're turning an issue of morality into an issue of politics. This isn't even about ISIS, it's about the ideal of freedom of expression. The mere act of showing support for a group or idea, no matter how terrible that group or idea may be, is protected under the human code. Principles mean nothing if you're not willing to stand by them when it's inconvenient for you.
"Human code"
The fuck sort of shit you talking about?
The basic moral laws that civilizations (good ones, at least) strive for. Most of it was established in culturally advanced societies like Rome and England. Pretty standard concept, don't really see what you're not picking up on.
22265
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:52:22 PM »
The problem with the people ITT is that they're turning an issue of morality into an issue of politics. This isn't even about ISIS, it's about the ideal of freedom of expression. The mere act of showing support for a group or idea, no matter how terrible that group or idea may be, is protected under the human code. Principles mean nothing if you're not willing to stand by them when it's inconvenient for you.
22266
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:06:10 PM »
Challenger has shit opinions, so Meta.
You're just mad that you're getting rekt by him on that thread in Serious.
People who like (most of) Meta's opinions just masturbate to muh free market.
If you consider that getting wrecked, I don't want to know how you react to actual forum rape.
And no, it mainly stems from the drug/consent arguments I've had with him in the past. He makes Verbatim's social beliefs look brilliant.
What are his opinions on those?
Before he starts telling some bullshit story, I don't have any problem with people using drugs.
But his view of "my body beings damaged or me dying doesn't affect anybody else" is bullshit plain and simple.
He'd say something stupid like "I have the right to drink bleach if I want to" then act like it won't have an effect on his family, the economy, and so on.
No, I just said that you have a right to do whatever the hell you want to your own body. It's the one thing you indisputably own.
22267
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:04:08 PM »
How about we arrest them for being criminals.
Nonviolently expressing your opinion isn't a criminal act. You have this childish mindset of "OMG EVERY SINGLE PERSON EVER WHO SUPPORTS ISIS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY MURDER SOME1". It's dumb. Sure, 50% of those protesters are probably murderers, but that's a completely different crime. You're treating expression and protesting in and of itself as breaking the law.
Nobody is saying that every single supporter of X will kill somebody except for you. And you clearly haven't even read either of our posts, or else you wouldn't immediately be posting your ideological crap.
The point is that freedom of expression is the absolute pinnacle of a society's goals. Stripping it down just to catch more members of a group that will be gone in ten years anyway is a travesty.
Oh of course, a group that's been around for decades and is doing extremely well will be gone in 10 years. We should just wait it out like a bunch of pussy hippies. Fuck saving innocent lives.
No, we should fucking steamroll the Middle East with some kind of collective force of 500,000 soldiers, wipe out ISIS, and leave. The problem with the Iraq War was that we stuck around to "rebuild" the country. I've been saying this for years. We just need to eliminate the majority of the group and get out of there, not impose restrictions to freedom of speech for no reason.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 04:59:31 PM »
How about we arrest them for being criminals.
Nonviolently expressing your opinion isn't a criminal act. You have this childish mindset of "OMG EVERY SINGLE PERSON EVER WHO SUPPORTS ISIS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY MURDER SOME1". It's dumb. Sure, 50% of those protesters are probably murderers, but that's a completely different crime. You're treating expression and protesting in and of itself as breaking the law.
Nobody is saying that every single supporter of X will kill somebody except for you. And you clearly haven't even read either of our posts, or else you wouldn't immediately be posting your ideological crap.
The point is that freedom of expression is the absolute pinnacle of any society's goals. Stripping it down just to catch more members of a group that will be gone in ten years anyway is a travesty.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 04:56:54 PM »
Challenger has shit opinions, so Meta.
You're just mad that you're getting rekt by him on that thread in Serious.
People who like (most of) Meta's opinions just masturbate to muh free market.
If you consider that getting wrecked, I don't want to know how you react to actual forum rape. And no, it mainly stems from the drug/consent arguments I've had with him in the past. He makes Verbatim's social beliefs look brilliant.
22270
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:54:47 PM »
How about we arrest them for being criminals.
Nonviolently expressing your opinion isn't a criminal act. You have this childish mindset of "OMG EVERY SINGLE PERSON EVER WHO SUPPORTS ISIS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY MURDER SOME1". It's dumb. Sure, 50% of those protesters are probably murderers, but that's a completely different crime. You're treating expression and protesting in and of itself as breaking the law.
22271
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:51:35 PM »
Free speech isn't fucking free speech if certain opinions aren't allowed. To say that you're not allowed to believe in ISIS's cause is ridiculous. Acting on it is completely different.
If I want to walk down main street wearing a KKK uniform and holding up a sign that advocates murdering black people, I should have every legal right to do so. Just as you'd have every right to yell and berate me for it.
Certain opinions (vocalizing) aren't allowed already.
And the KKK should have no legal right to preach hatred. Shit like that just inflames the already tense interracial relations in the US.
Maybe in the backwards ass UK, but not here.
And yes, they should have every legal right to preach whatever they want. Acting on them is completely different.
They do act on them.
So every single member of the KKK assaults black people?
22272
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:50:27 PM »
Challenger has shit opinions, so Meta.
22273
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:48:53 PM »
Free speech isn't fucking free speech if certain opinions aren't allowed. To say that you're not allowed to believe in ISIS's cause is ridiculous. Acting on it is completely different.
If I want to walk down main street wearing a KKK uniform and holding up a sign that advocates murdering black people, I should have every legal right to do so. Just as you'd have every right to yell and berate me for it.
Certain opinions (vocalizing) aren't allowed already.
And the KKK should have no legal right to preach hatred. Shit like that just inflames the already tense interracial relations in the US.
Maybe in the backwards ass UK, but not here. And yes, they should have every legal right to preach whatever they want. Acting on them is completely different.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 04:48:01 PM »
Free speech isn't fucking free speech if certain opinions aren't allowed. To say that you're not allowed to believe in ISIS's cause is ridiculous. Acting on it is completely different.
If I want to walk down main street wearing a KKK uniform and holding up a sign that advocates murdering black people, I should have every legal right to do so. Just as you'd have every right to yell and berate me for it.
Are we at war with the KKK? (No, but we should be)
We're at war with Muslim terrorists. Get with the fucking times. You can believe whatever you want. The second you start killing people is the second you lose the right to parade around under the guise of free speech.
Uh, no. Free expression of your beliefs is a right. If I, an individual who has killed no one and never will, wanted to support ISIS's cause and publicly show it, I have a right to do so. Nothing you say can change that. Is it morally right to do so? Of course not. But it's still something that's always, always, protected. If you don't like the ISIS protesters, start another one across from them.
22275
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:27:33 PM »
RIP CIS
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« on: April 07, 2015, 04:24:31 PM »
Free speech isn't fucking free speech if certain opinions aren't allowed. To say that you're not allowed to believe in ISIS's cause is ridiculous. Acting on it is completely different.
If I want to walk down main street wearing a KKK uniform and holding up a sign that advocates murdering black people, I should have every legal right to do so. Just as you'd have every right to yell and berate me for it.
22277
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:18:36 PM »
22278
« on: April 07, 2015, 10:57:37 AM »
Go for it.
22279
« on: April 06, 2015, 08:32:15 PM »
Zuko, Iroh, Toph or Sokka.
Can't decide.
pick toph
Azula is literally millions of times better than toph
22280
« on: April 06, 2015, 05:21:38 PM »
Not as good as Gravity Falls
22281
« on: April 06, 2015, 05:07:49 PM »
ITT: Turkey continues to bend over for Uncle Sam
22282
« on: April 06, 2015, 04:53:42 PM »
I never got above honorable so it's w/e
22283
« on: April 06, 2015, 04:52:30 PM »
I'm not five, so I don't give a shit about space or dinosaurs.
>"I'm not 5"
>is obsessed w/ a cartoon character
 Yeah well you're gay
22284
« on: April 06, 2015, 04:41:57 PM »
I'm not five, so I don't give a shit about space or dinosaurs.
22285
« on: April 06, 2015, 04:06:51 PM »
 Spoiler Not really my "favorite" as much as the objectively best.
22286
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:04:33 AM »
fuck off faggot
Spoiler  cry more
22287
« on: April 06, 2015, 05:24:09 AM »
Did his character have any importance at all besides being black? It seems like the only purpose he has in the movies is to show you there's a black guy in the movie.
He's like Han Solo... but black
But Han Solo has far more screen time than him and he actually has a purpose in the movies. Everything about Lando's character could have been done by some random person.
Blowing up the second Death Star and handing Han Solo over to Jabba the Hutt totally isn't important at all.
And, you know, ruling Cloud City...
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« on: April 06, 2015, 05:22:04 AM »
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« on: April 06, 2015, 05:07:08 AM »
fuck off faggot
22290
« on: April 06, 2015, 05:06:26 AM »
That's a dumb fucking shirt
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