Quote from: SecondClass on May 16, 2015, 12:14:32 AM

My original post implied equal happiness and suffering. You can't have an argument of "oh you'd choose to spend an hour undergoing excruciating pain and misery so you can spend the next hour lounging around with a cup of peach tea?" It's not comparable. The average human is never going to be tortured in some Russian gulag, so even bringing up the point of "you've never had REAL suffering" is pointless.

if you could illustrate the scenario for me, then, that would be helpful
i won't contradict you, but i don't suspect that i will agree with you

it's difficult for me to imagine a scenario where the suffering/happiness do not outweigh each other either which way, even if only by just a little bit

i would stop eating cupcakes if i had to prick my finger every single time i decided to eat one
they wouldn't really be worth it to me anymore at that point

Okay, here's a realistic example - I go to school and work every day. School is boring, demanding, and stressful. Work is tedious and even more stressful. But at the end of the day, I can sit down with a bowl of weed, watch some TV, and have a peaceful end to my day. Not a lot of "suffering" or "happiness" in that scenario, but it's still a negative factor and a positive factor that balance each other out. Without one, the other would be impossible. You need suffering and pleasure in life, because you'd go mad with stress or boredom without both in conjunction.

And see - that's where you and I differ. I would definitely still eat cupcakes if I had to do that. One, because I don't eat that many cupcakes, and two, the pleasure of eating a flavorful treat outweighs the pain of the prick for me. For others, though, the pain may outweigh the pleasure, and that's fine.

Quote from: SecondClass on May 15, 2015, 11:59:02 PM

Sure, I've never been tortured or mutilated. But that's not a realistic perception for suffering for 99% of humans.

which means 99% of humans do not have a realistic perception of real suffering

Uh, exactly. 99% of humans live their lives without any fear of actual physical torture. That vastly outweighs the 1% who does.

besides, it shouldn't matter, if you can honestly think of a good experience that would outweigh being tortured and mutilated

i don't think you can

I can't, but like I just said, that's a non-issue for the vast majority of humanity.

Happiness outweighs suffering. If someone asked me whether I'd want an hour of happiness and then an hour of suffering, or nothing at all, I'd take the former in a heartbeat.

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Quote from: SecondClass on May 14, 2015, 01:47:43 AM

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