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18691
« on: September 15, 2015, 10:23:35 PM »
tranny
also this implies that I'm like, actively trying to change my gender which I'm not
18692
« on: September 15, 2015, 10:08:00 PM »
Subscribed retweeted and favorited
18693
« on: September 15, 2015, 10:05:43 PM »
Isnt this one of the same reasons why we left B.net?
if you left Bnet because of the tags you're retarded tbh the tag system was the last good idea Bungie came up with
18694
« on: September 15, 2015, 10:00:07 PM »
go back to crying into a pillow to tool songs
18695
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:58:08 PM »
OMG GUIZ THIS FEATUER IS LIKE BNETS FEATEURS THAT MEANS ITS AUTMOATICALY BAD!!!!111!
18696
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:57:01 PM »
I don't care about the "can" part, I cared about the fact you were equating being comfortable and proud of your body to strength training. But whatever, we're just arguing semantics at this point.
Point is, the idea that being buff is some holy grail for men to achieve might not be in your mind, but it's definitely part of the collective myth of what all boys should do. If you're a woman, all that matters is whether you're fat or not. But for men, if you're not Hercules or trying to be him, you're a "betamax", whatever that means.
18697
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:45:24 PM »
I know it's sort of similar to B.shit, but would anyone be interested in tags? That way you can mark a thread as you like and search for specific tags instead of browsing the forum like a normal person.
Yeah, I guess OP should have said "Prefix ideas", but w/e and yeah, that would actually be a cool feature, IMO. It would allow you to find things way easier.
18698
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:43:50 PM »
Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.
You definitely implied it.
You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
No, I didn't. Nothing that you underlined even implies that on their own; and they're even more easily defensible with context. That entire paragraph was an objection to the idea that the benefits experienced from weightlifting were solely because of the physique gained from it. That isn't the case, as I explained that engaging in that activity as the secondary benefit of potentially giving you boosts in confidence, mental clarity, and social adeptness.
You are arguing that I implied a black-and-white "If you don't lift weights, you can't have confidence" mentality. It is incredibly easy to see, when reading my posts, that that is not the case whatsoever. End of story.
You're obviously just skimming my posts, because I have never expressed that mentality. I underlined those two things, because the first one shows the subject that we're talking about (strength training), and the second says that "you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body." The implication being that becoming more comfortable and proud of your body is directly tied to gaining muscle. When there are many, many more ways than that for it to happen.
18699
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:36:38 PM »
Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.
You definitely implied it. You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
18700
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:34:38 PM »
My objection to your view had nothing to do with whether or not muscle-building activities suited your tastes; I never once stated that. My initial disagreement stemmed from what I understood as your claim that people with muscular bodies experienced benefits solely based on their appearance, and that is demonstrably wrong.
I never said that. I get the whole "I'm buff, so I'm more confident, so I'm more socially appealing," routine. But the problem with that is equating the A to the C, the buffness to the social appeal. When really, it all comes down to confidence. Visual appeal definitely has a factor in that, though. People like manly men and girly girls, and buffness is definitely a manly trait. But really, all that matters is if you're comfortable in your body. If you like it. I would hate to have some Schwarzenegger figure.
18701
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:27:09 PM »
Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
18702
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:24:07 PM »
You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
And you're making the misjudgment that being muscular positively affects your self-worth and confidence. When I stayed at my great-uncle's cabin in the UP two summers ago, we pretty much had no electricity and had to cut down trees and do manual labor and all of that to run the generator. By the time the summer was over, I was getting pretty muscular, and I hated it. I'm just not the type of person who derives positive value from being toned. When someone tells me I'm a twig, that makes me so much happier than when people told me I was "getting some muscle". It's pretty ignorant to assume that getting buff is some inherent bringer of self-value and happiness. I release endorphins when I work out, sure, but nearly all of my workouts are cardio-based.
18703
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:15:29 PM »
That same feeling of control comes with staying thin and in shape. I just don't like muscles. Don't like how they look or what they represent. They remind me too much of "manly" dudebros. I find thin people infinitely more attractive than muscleheads. Society obviously disagrees with me, as Snake said, because buffness is the typical "guy" trait, and people eat that up.
You're also stereotyping and entire group of people solely based on the fact that they have more muscle than you. To admit that your distaste for muscles is partially contributed to by the fact that you believe it represents something is a flaw on your end.
You can't deny that being muscular is a typically masculine trait. And I'm stereotyping now? I said for me. Not for everyone.
18704
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:12:46 PM »
Men respect me more
I get more attention from girls
I feel strong and confident thanks to my body
People tend to be friendlier to me
People say they feel safe with me(srs lol)
Notice that all of these advantages are in relation to other people
...Yes, most people favor being at an advantage when it comes to their relationships with others, no? Humans are fundamentally driven by our interactions with others, why would somebody not want to heighten their social, physical, and mental capabilities?
Because the people who are going to like me more for being muscular aren't the people I want to chill with. I don't want people to look at me and think I'm buff, I want people to look at me and think I'm thin.
18705
« on: September 15, 2015, 09:03:29 PM »
That same feeling of control comes with staying thin and in shape. I just don't like muscles. Don't like how they look or what they represent. They remind me too much of "manly" dudebros. I find thin people infinitely more attractive than muscleheads. Society obviously disagrees with me, as Snake said, because buffness is the typical "guy" trait, and people eat that up.
18706
« on: September 15, 2015, 08:55:26 PM »
Men respect me more
I get more attention from girls
I feel strong and confident thanks to my body
People tend to be friendlier to me
People say they feel safe with me(srs lol)
Notice that all of these advantages are in relation to other people
18707
« on: September 15, 2015, 08:47:38 PM »
People like muscular men not because of some obscure neuron in their brain telling them that it's more aesthetically pleasing, but because muscular men are more of the epitome of manliness.
Those are the exact same thing in this scenario, though.
That's the problem.
18708
« on: September 15, 2015, 07:22:55 PM »
Whatever. I'm only arguing this because you said that being buff was "universally better", and now you're just backtracking. People like muscular men not because of some obscure neuron in their brain telling them that it's more aesthetically pleasing, but because muscular men are more of the epitome of manliness. It's not that it's more of a pleasing sight to the eyes in general, or buff women would be seen as more attractive than thin women.
18709
« on: September 15, 2015, 07:08:46 PM »
"Universally better" =/= better because some people will like you more
I guess it's not as objective as I'd like to admit. But you'd be more inclined to friends, to appeal. Which can make you financially more successful.
I consider that better.
Why would I want friends who are only friends with me because I'm muscular? A, I don't want shallow friends. And B, I don't want friends who think that being buff is some huge deal to begin with. Financial success? What does that have to do at all about your body type? I don't think when I apply to work at a pharmacy, they're going to be judging my BMI. They're going to be judging my degree. And like I said, being muscular just makes you look more like a burly man. I don't want that image.
18710
« on: September 15, 2015, 07:03:20 PM »
Other than "lol people like buff dudes better"
That is my whole reasoning, though. People like more attractive people. I'm not saying that's right, I'm saying that's the reality.
"Universally better" =/= better because some people will like you more
18711
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:59:00 PM »
You people are weird.
I just wanna be cute, muscles aren't cute.
and it's much harder to fit girlclothes when you're swole like a dudebro.
ew gtfo of my thread you pervert
Fuck you Groot. I thought we were cool.
ew I'm not groot
18712
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:57:41 PM »
Yeah, that's fine. I'm just saying that it's almost universally better to be muscular -- even if you don't want to be.
You still haven't given me a single reason why. Other than "lol people like buff dudes better"
18713
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:56:40 PM »
You people are weird.
I just wanna be cute, muscles aren't cute.
and it's much harder to fit girlclothes when you're swole like a dudebro.
ew gtfo of my thread you pervert
18714
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:53:26 PM »
Well, there you go.
Spoiler Also, I was referring to the "As do most people" part.
Well I think most women would find a muscular man more attractive as well.
Oh, I see what you're saying. I misread this Personally, I think guys look much better muscular. As do most people.
as you saying guys, and most people, look better muscular. And yeah, idc that people think guys look better muscular. Like I said, it's a manly trait, and I don't really care about shit like that. Like when Jive said being cucked was the worst possible thing his mind could fathom, and saying he didn't get how my brain works when I disagreed. I'm just not as obsessed with cliche stuff like that as most guys are.
18715
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:49:39 PM »
I don't know, I feel like being buff is definitely more of a "manly" trait.
Yeah... it is.
If we're talking about women that's completely different.
Well, there you go. Spoiler Also, I was referring to the "As do most people" part.
18716
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:48:34 PM »
Skinny just means looking like a normal person
I don't think they'd be described as "skinny" if they just looked normal. Skinny is noticeably thin.
The way I see it, fatness goes like this
Anorexic --> Skinny --> Chubby --> Fat --> Obese
Skinny would be the normal thing
I'd (and I'd think most people would) slot "normal" or "average" between Skinny and Chubby.
I feel like your view of "skinny" is my view of "anorexic" To me, skinny means you don't have any fat. Which would be normal.
18717
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:45:59 PM »
Personally, I think guys look much better muscular. As do most people.
I don't know, I feel like being buff is definitely more of a "manly" trait.
18718
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:44:40 PM »
Skinny just means looking like a normal person
I don't think they'd be described as "skinny" if they just looked normal. Skinny is noticeably thin.
The way I see it, fatness goes like this Anorexic --> Skinny --> Chubby --> Fat --> Obese Skinny would be the normal thing
18719
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:41:51 PM »
Skinny just means looking like a normal person
Ah, okay. That makes a bit more sense.
I would still choose to be muscular with no effort over being anything else. Like I said, being muscular enhances every part of your life.
So you can lift heavier stuff, big deal. I still think it looks gross.
18720
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:40:35 PM »
I thought Arky was dead?
yeah he and viltre both killed themselves people just call nexus arky as an inside joke
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