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If you recognize that humanity's greatest threat is itself, and then go onto say that love for everyone wouldn't solve a thing, then you're just retarded. The leaders we have in power dictate what kind of society we have. If you want this classist, warlike, fear-mongering world, then by all means, keep supporting the status quo. If you want a society that's as close to a utopia as we can get, then our leaders need to reflect that. And passing off my entire argument as a platitude is fucking ridiculous. It's not a bullshit talking point, it's how the world needs to be.
To be fair, even if we got everyone to "love" each other in the first world, that's not going to stop ISIL.

And other extremist groups who are openly hostile towards concepts like freedom and love.

You don't stop them by saying, "Could you please chill out? Smoke a bowl or something? We're trying to have, like, peace, and stuff."
Even the most compassionate and loving leaders recognize when a group needs to be taken care of. People like IS stand in the way of global unification and peace, and they obviously need to be dealt with. Violence isn't always immoral, and when someone stands in the way of the greater good, they've brought their fate on themselves.

I'm more talking about how our governments fuck over people who have done no wrong, to progress the nation and other buzzwords. Things like supporting GMOs, letting evil organizations like the WTO run free, those are the acts that would be eliminated if we had a shift of consciousness and elected leaders who didn't have this apish "you or me" mentality.

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If you recognize that humanity's greatest threat is itself, and then go onto say that love for everyone wouldn't solve a thing, then you're just retarded.
I didn't say it wouldn't solve anything. . . I said it's a stupidly unrealistic thing to shoot for. We aren't wired to love everybody, never mind all the social technologies like religion and political ideologies that you're not going to get rid of any time soon. My entire moral matrix is based on the expansion of human well-being, so don't pretend like I'm being deliberately obtuse and supporting the status quo out of some apish desire to have people keep on dying.
It's entirely realistic. It's only because of people like you, who cling onto this dying belief about the strong and the weak and all of that nonsense that we're not progressing emotionally as a species.

And by the way, if you value progress more than peace, you're a shitty person.
Not really; if going to war with Iraq and having 100,000 civilians die at whoever's hands meant we could cure cancer, I'd pick up a rifle and start shooting myself.
Yay, worthless hypotheticals.

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The Flood / Giving us a Christmas logo and not Christmas Anarchy
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:26:18 PM »
why do you play with my emotions Cheat

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And by the way, if you value progress more than peace, you're a shitty person.

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Nice one! Maybe actually formulate some kind of argument next time, though?
See, I would, but I can't. You're just saying shit and passing it off as substantial. What the fuck am I meant to say to utter platitudes like "Humanity's greatest threat is itself" which literally everybody has known since the 40s, and then conclusions somehow drawn from that like "What we need is more love".

You haven't said anything worth responding to. It's just the same bullshit New Age-esque talking points that don't get anybody fucking anywhere.
If you recognize that humanity's greatest threat is itself, and then go onto say that love for everyone wouldn't solve a thing, then you're just retarded. The leaders we have in power dictate what kind of society we have. If you want this classist, warlike, fear-mongering world, then by all means, keep supporting the status quo. If you want a society that's as close to a utopia as we can get, then our leaders need to reflect that. And passing off my entire argument as a platitude is fucking ridiculous. It's not a bullshit talking point, it's how the world needs to be.

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The thing that we need the most in our leaders right now isn't strength, it's love.
Spoiler

Far out, man.
Nice one! Maybe actually formulate some kind of argument next time, though? Also, addressing the entire post, and not just the first sentence, helps a lot in not looking like an idiot.

And by the way, the cliche 60s hippies were far better people than anyone currently in power, and would probably be better leaders than the fucked up ones we have right now.

EDIT: Oh, I see. The picture you originally posted just wasn't patronizing enough, I guess. Nice replacement.

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The Flood / Re: You people are the reason why I smoke
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:13:36 PM »

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Oh my god, fuck off. This is the kind of thinking that's caused the state of the world today.
I'm speaking descriptively.

The solution is to get somebody strong with your values in power. That's the ultimate aim of the political game; compassionate and feminine people are simply not good at government. It doesn't make for effective governance. This is true of both feminine men and women.

If you think it is untrue that the strong ultimately rule the weak, and always will, then you're not anchored to reality. The goal is to I) make sure the strong have the right values and II) mitigating their power so they don't shoot you for disagreeing. Why the fuck else would we come up with a system where the lawmakers are accountable to the general population?
Total, undiluted bullshit. The thing that we need the most in our leaders right now isn't strength, it's love. The era of power-hungry men who only care about their nation is over. They had their shot, and they failed. The time is here for a new era of compassion and peace. What's the biggest threat to humanity? Resources? Of course not, there are more than enough resources to go around. Land? Of course not, same deal. Humanity's biggest threat is itself. If we all held hands and sung Kumbaya, this world would be an immensely better place. And to imply that women have no drive for innovation is downright offensive.

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The sexist majority would never vote in a feminine, compassionate woman. Even though that's exactly what the world needs right now.
Right, the world just needs to link hands around a tree and fucking sing Kumbaya.

Results? What are those? Self-confidence? God forbid. Compassion gets you nowhere in the real world. Life's a game, and the first rule is that there are no rules.

The second rule is that the strong rule the weak.
Oh my god, fuck off. This is the kind of thinking that's caused the state of the world today.

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Your sexism isn't particularly admirable or supportable.
Camile Paglia is a pretty famous and respected feminist. She just doesn't deny the differences that exist between men and women, and the kind of values masculinity and femininity will inculcate individually. It's no surprise that women politicians like Margaret Thatcher tend to have strikingly masculine personalities.

It's not sexist to think men and women are equal but different, and with broadly different proclivities.
I don't really care about one woman's opinion. Women politicians have masculine qualities because we still live in a backwards world that respects men more than women, and pretty much all first world countries have democracies. The sexist majority would never vote in a feminine, compassionate woman. Even though that's exactly what the world needs right now.

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The Flood / Re: You are presented with an opportunity of a lifetime
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:53:47 PM »
Free gas so I can kill myself
darker than the kid who stole my bike

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if women ruled the world, we'd still be living in grass huts.
LMAO

are you fucking kidding me Meta

if women ruled the world, we'd probably be in a utopia right now. Your sexism isn't particularly admirable or supportable.

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The Flood / Re: Luke Skywalker
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:43:29 PM »
I argue that since Luke Skywalker is not 90s he is inferior to even Independence Day Jeff Goldblum
oh my god shut the fuck up already

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The Flood / Re: 9pm on winter break and this forum is dead
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:42:46 PM »
Deep conversations are fun

We can sit by the fire, wrapped in blankets and talk about our feelings
Yessss

Fruit for mod 2016

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The Flood / Re: "these are the days when anything goes"
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:28:26 PM »
Remember the 90s?

The 90s were so much better....

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The Flood / Re: You are presented with an opportunity of a lifetime
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:24:22 PM »
Definitely the grocery tab.
pls explain
That would help out the most out of all three. I'd be able to pretty much just live off of a part-time job.

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The Flood / Re: You are presented with an opportunity of a lifetime
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:19:52 PM »
Definitely the grocery tab.

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The Flood / Re: 9pm on winter break and this forum is dead
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:11:40 PM »
well tbh talking to the same people about the same things for over a year can get a little old after a while

hasn't gotten old for me because I don't post here all the time
that's why we need deeper personal conversations and not "lol man Beatles are so overrated, I hate anything popular"
what do you see as deeper, personal conversations?
conversations about lives, secrets, confessions, drama, insecurites, etc

not this boring rehashed shit

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The Flood / Re: 9pm on winter break and this forum is dead
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:08:48 PM »
well tbh talking to the same people about the same things for over a year can get a little old after a while

hasn't gotten old for me because I don't post here all the time
that's why we need deeper personal conversations and not "lol man Beatles are so overrated, I hate anything popular"

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The Flood / 9pm on winter break and this forum is dead
« on: December 23, 2015, 08:06:08 PM »
sep7agon truly in its prime

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The Flood / Re: Remember Veggie Tales?
« on: December 23, 2015, 07:41:49 PM »
Tfw my parents wouldn't let me watch the veggie tales because my dad saw it as a form of brain washing.
Your parents sound smart.

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The Flood / Re: Azula vs Rey
« on: December 23, 2015, 07:38:58 PM »
That'd be a really cool fight actually. I want to see Azula before she completely goes batshit crazy though.
Yeah, I'm almost always referring to S2 Azula when I make threads like these

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The Flood / Re: Remember Veggie Tales?
« on: December 23, 2015, 07:36:18 PM »
I was force-fed that garbage.

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The Flood / Re: Azula vs Rey
« on: December 23, 2015, 07:09:39 PM »
Batman.
both Azula and Rey would wreck Batman

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The Flood / Azula vs Rey
« on: December 23, 2015, 06:59:10 PM »
10 mins prep time

arena is the top of a skyscraper

who wins

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The Flood / Re: Who would you do coke with
« on: December 23, 2015, 06:57:29 PM »
I thought you were making a pun on your name at first

OT: probably none of you, I'd want my first time to be with my best friend

He never asked if you would ever do with any of us
I was under the impression he was talking about forum members

and btw, the title said "woke" at first

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Also

>complains about movies being generic
>has a Star Wars avatar and probably likes Episode VII
Episode VII was good stop being such a fucking contrarian, it doesn't make you look cool

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The Flood / Re: Who would you do coke with
« on: December 23, 2015, 06:12:15 PM »
I thought you were making a pun on your name at first

OT: probably none of you, I'd want my first time to be with my best friend

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The Flood / Re: Marty Users Hangout
« on: December 23, 2015, 06:11:27 PM »
Damn

I'm late for school

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Yes.

I don't know why people act like it doesn't scare them. It does. There are things that will always creep you out and scare you. The reason we're the dominant species is because we're so fearful.
It's actually because of our capability to make tools.

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