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The Flood / Re: When's the hardest you've been punched?
« on: April 02, 2016, 05:36:07 AM »
I've never been punched.

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The Great Space Coaster > Star Wars

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you've made this thread like 78 times I swear
wtf are you talking about

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The Flood / Re: Do you treat each other the way that you want to?
« on: April 02, 2016, 01:03:55 AM »
If I treated people the way I want to be treated I'd end up in jail

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T4R

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The Flood / Re: list of filtered words
« on: April 01, 2016, 10:34:17 PM »
carΔ™ = cart

for some reason

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The Flood / okay I'm calling it
« on: April 01, 2016, 10:10:50 PM »
anarchy rules for the entire night

go crazy guys, you're welcome

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The Flood / Re: tfw u can't link videos
« on: April 01, 2016, 10:03:35 PM »

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The Flood / Re: tfw u can't link videos
« on: April 01, 2016, 10:02:37 PM »
not just half a carter

the whole fucking carter

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The Flood / Re: Nice try CheΒ­at
« on: April 01, 2016, 10:01:05 PM »
woah man, sweet af

call me at 810-555-0173 and we can talk some more

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The Flood / tfw u can't link videos
« on: April 01, 2016, 09:57:59 PM »
feels bad man

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The Flood / Re: women art fucking confusing
« on: April 01, 2016, 09:39:07 PM »
So yoΕ³ fail to understand what someone else is doing and somehow thΔ…t's their fault?

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The Flood / Re: What a disaster
« on: April 01, 2016, 09:35:59 PM »
Idc

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The Flood / Re: meme
« on: April 01, 2016, 07:15:38 PM »
Am I out of touch?


No. It's the children who are wrong.

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The Flood / Re: Recommend a movie
« on: April 01, 2016, 06:47:47 PM »
Heathers
Chinatown
True Romance

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The Flood / Feast your ears on THAT Spin Doctors mix
« on: April 01, 2016, 05:01:31 PM »

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What happens when the expression of your rights infringes upon the rights of someone else?
Refusing to cater a wedding doesn't infringe on the rights of anybody. Gay people don't have the right to demand services from anybody.
They have the right to demand the same amenities that straight people have. Just as black people have the right to demand the same amenities that white people have.

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My nationalistic ideology prohibits racemixing. Were I a service provider for hire, could I rightfully deny services for marriages to mixed race couples?
Seriously overlooked post. With the logic ITT, there's no reason this shouldn't be able to happen.

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If you disagree with that, you're advocating a refusal of services based on sexuality.
You're missing some of the nuance of his point, though. There's a difference between a straight guy and a gay guy walking into the store, buying a cake and then waking out again; compared with having a business actively cater for a ceremony they fundamentally disagree with.
Again, that's a problem with the religion, not the law. If a religion mandates its followers to discriminate against people, there's no reason the state should make laws to protect that hatefulness.

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And it's bad when that happens, too. Discrimination is discrimination. Not sure what you're trying to prove here.
That morally sanctimonious fuckwits always seem to turn out to be hypocrites?

Let's cut the shit here. That whole bakery fiasco was a complete one sided attack on Christian inspired businesses. Not one word was mentioned of any Islamic bakeries that behaved similarly towards LGBT customers.

I could give you a run down of how the free market responds to decisions like these and how this really isn't a problem at all, as I have done innumerable times in this forum, but I feel like it would fall on deaf ears.
Go write an article criticizing Huffpost or some shit, I couldn't care less about the reason why you're being discriminatory. The point is that discrimination is happening. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, it doesn't matter in the least. This is about rights under the law, not religion.
Denying someone a service because it engages with a specific activity that they are not comfortable with is not discrimination, and it never will be, no matter how much you crybabies scream about it.

If someone approached me to hypothetically design a hardcore BDSM themed product I'm well within my rights to tell them to fuck off, as would most of you I would wager. LGBT rights and business autonomy are not interchangeable, surprisingly enough.
You're denying someone a service because of the way they were born. You're not born a BDSM enthusiast, so your little metaphor doesn't hold up.
Denying someone a service because of their sexual orientation is already illegal. That's not what anyone is positing in this thread.
Yes, it is. If a straight person has a right to marriage, then a gay person does as well. If a straight person can walk into a store and buy a wedding cake, then a gay person can walk into the same store and buy the same wedding cake. If you disagree with that, you're advocating a refusal of services based on sexuality.

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But when your actions discriminate against gays, that's a problem and it infringes upon their rights as human beings.
Seriously, can none of you read?

Let me make it clear: forcing Christians to perform a service they disagree with due to their beliefs is discrimination. If you think that's okay, I don't care. It's not the discussion I'm having here. What I am saying is that justifying discrimination against Christians on the grounds of being anti-discrimination is fucking dumb.

If you still want to discriminate against Christians, then fine. Just find a better justification for it.
Refusing to serve someone because of the way they were born is discrimination.

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Answer the fucking question.
Sorry, can't you read?

What part of "I'm not saying whether I agree or disagree with the law" did you not understand? It's not a discussion I'm willing to have.
Then there you go.

And whatever, it may make me a hypocrite, but religious freedom is not as important as human rights. You don't have a choice whether you're black, gay, female, white, etc. You do have a choice in what religion to practice. If your religion preaches hate and discrimination against those who were born a certain way, why the hell should that religion get precedence?

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And it's bad when that happens, too. Discrimination is discrimination. Not sure what you're trying to prove here.
That morally sanctimonious fuckwits always seem to turn out to be hypocrites?

Let's cut the shit here. That whole bakery fiasco was a complete one sided attack on Christian inspired businesses. Not one word was mentioned of any Islamic bakeries that behaved similarly towards LGBT customers.

I could give you a run down of how the free market responds to decisions like these and how this really isn't a problem at all, as I have done innumerable times in this forum, but I feel like it would fall on deaf ears.
Go write an article criticizing Huffpost or some shit, I couldn't care less about the reason why you're being discriminatory. The point is that discrimination is happening. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, it doesn't matter in the least. This is about rights under the law, not religion.
Denying someone a service because it engages with a specific activity that they are not comfortable with is not discrimination, and it never will be, no matter how much you crybabies scream about it.

If someone approached me to hypothetically design a hardcore BDSM themed product I'm well within my rights to tell them to fuck off, as would most of you I would wager. LGBT rights and business autonomy are not interchangeable, surprisingly enough.
You're denying someone a service because of the way they were born. You're not born a BDSM enthusiast, so your little metaphor doesn't hold up.

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Did you just ignore what I said? Answer the fucking question.
Could they refuse to cater to a black marriage because of their personal beliefs?
Race is the same thing as sexuality under the law. What you say about this, you're saying about gay marriages.

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The Flood / Re: Challenger is so funny
« on: April 01, 2016, 03:58:35 PM »
Fuck you Zesty im ending it ALL thanks to you

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And it's bad when that happens, too. Discrimination is discrimination. Not sure what you're trying to prove here.
That morally sanctimonious fuckwits always seem to turn out to be hypocrites?

Let's cut the shit here. That whole bakery fiasco was a complete one sided attack on Christian inspired businesses. Not one word was mentioned of any Islamic bakeries that behaved similarly towards LGBT customers.

I could give you a run down of how the free market responds to decisions like these and how this really isn't a problem at all, as I have done innumerable times in this forum, but I feel like it would fall on deaf ears.
Go write an article criticizing Huffpost or some shit, I couldn't care less about the reason why you're being discriminatory. The point is that discrimination is happening. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, it doesn't matter in the least. This is about rights under the law, not religion.

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Fuck you

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Just like I was the first person in this thread to talk about the FDA
Nobody fucking cares
obviously the eight people do

I didn't repeat shit
You did

Get over it
No I fucking didn't,  I was literally making a POINT. No one bats an eye at the fact that corporations are corrupt, but the idea that they can corrupt government agencies is conspiracy level tier.

It's just hypocrisy, and I didn't repeat shit.

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