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The binding to the nameplate was intentional. It's a trade off; you can have a cool nameplate or a heart icon.
Well, can we change that please? It's kinda weird it's the only icon you can have that doesn't allow for you to use a title bar as well.
yeah, cheat's trying to make it seem like some deeply planned thing but it's just bad development
It was intentional. Adding it as an icon would have been simpler to do. I went out of my way to make sure you couldn't have a nameplate with the heart.

 8)
That's straight up retarded.

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The Flood / Re: the BMW i8 is engineering overkill
« on: April 22, 2016, 07:12:39 PM »
I don't get car people

you don't see house people or boat people, yet it's so popular to be obsessed with cars
there's definitely boat people, and i'm surprised you haven't met any as a michigander

but yeah, car people are bizarre
I've seen old men who are proud and defensive about the fishing boat they've had for twenty years or whatever, but not high school kids who talk about the specifics of boats and collectable ones and such, like they do with cars.

I guess everyone has a hobby, there's worse things than cars. But it's still a tad askew

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The Flood / Re: Petition for cheat to rename himself chet
« on: April 22, 2016, 07:02:04 PM »
No, that has to be Blazed. He's literally 5'5"

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The Flood / Re: >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 06:59:39 PM »
her face has always irritated me
what

Winona Ryder is so pretty, literally perfect
She's literally a lesser Natalie.


lolno

Natalie's features aren't nearly as pronounced, and her head shape is literally completely different. Look at the forehead to jaw ratio in those pictures.

Winona Ryder is far more attractive than Natalie Portman.

Spoiler



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The Flood / Re: >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 06:52:18 PM »
More weight!
what a metal way to go out

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The Flood / Re: >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 06:51:04 PM »
her face has always irritated me
what

Winona Ryder is so pretty, literally perfect

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The Flood / Re: >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 06:48:01 PM »
She's a psycho meanie tbh
that's an understatement

Spoiler
and that's why she's cool as hell

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The Flood / Re: Tore my miniscus and a couple ligaments
« on: April 22, 2016, 06:42:43 PM »
Nope, the worst I've had were lacerations from falling over a chain link fence when I was really young. I tried to climb over it and failed terribly.

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The Flood / Re: >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 06:38:55 PM »
Spoiler
literally the most adorable actress playing the most badass character

watch the crucible asap if you haven't yet



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Gaming / Re: ITT: Pokemon that need to exist.
« on: April 22, 2016, 02:21:55 PM »
Mega Pidgeotto
Flying/Normal

Ability: Levitate

Cooler than Mega Pidgeot

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The Flood / Re: >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 02:15:38 PM »


tfw you just made four people drown

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The Flood / Re: Slash should be mod again
« on: April 22, 2016, 02:13:39 PM »


why not

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The Flood / >you will never be blackmailed by Abigail Williams
« on: April 22, 2016, 02:09:17 PM »


why live

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The Flood / Re: "Only women can be raped"
« on: April 22, 2016, 02:03:23 PM »
Nah, average. She had very sharp features, made her look sinister.
Resisting the urge to be a terrible person and call you lucky

I'm over it. There have been many jokes cracked at my expense, but she took the brunt of it.
I wasn't really making a joke, you just described the perfect look on a girl

Nah, the sunken eyes and dark circles aren't a good look. Neither are pointy noses tbh.
You're crazy that's literally the best look

Sharp, stern features are the best ones on a girl

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The Flood / Re: "Only women can be raped"
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:55:54 PM »
Nah, average. She had very sharp features, made her look sinister.
Resisting the urge to be a terrible person and call you lucky

I'm over it. There have been many jokes cracked at my expense, but she took the brunt of it.
I wasn't really making a joke, you just described the perfect look on a girl

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The Flood / Re: "Only women can be raped"
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:41:06 PM »
Nah, average. She had very sharp features, made her look sinister.
Resisting the urge to be a terrible person and call you lucky

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The binding to the nameplate was intentional. It's a trade off; you can have a cool nameplate or a heart icon.
Well, can we change that please? It's kinda weird it's the only icon you can have that doesn't allow for you to use a title bar as well.
yeah, cheat's trying to make it seem like some deeply planned thing but it's just bad development

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Haha
>having to apologies and redeem yourself to avatars on a forum
ooooh, someone's apologizing on the Internet

scary stuff
yeah over irrelevant shit, if he had spurged and made jokes about a dead mother or something then an apology is a must but all he did make a loser of himself and call himself verbpipim
He felt it warranted one, so he gave it.

It obviously wasn't irrelevant to Verbatim, which is who this thread is supposed to be for in the first place.
it's gay as fuck
"ooooh im sorry mr verbatim for imitating you i've hurt the feelings of random people on a forum oh no! ooohh"
can you just chill for like one day lol

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The Flood / Re: Do you think you should be a Mod?
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:30:53 PM »
I'm a better admin than mod

Wouldn't want to be either on this site though

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Haha
>having to apologies and redeem yourself to avatars on a forum
ooooh, someone's apologizing on the Internet

scary stuff
yeah over irrelevant shit, if he had spurged and made jokes about a dead mother or something then an apology is a must but all he did make a loser of himself and call himself verbpipim
He felt it warranted one, so he gave it.

It obviously wasn't irrelevant to Verbatim, which is who this thread is supposed to be for in the first place.

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You know making this much of an effort to explain yourself just shows that you're more easily affected by events here ergo it leaves you wide open for more attacking in the eyes of certain people.
Any kind of explanation is damage control and any time you admit you were wrong you got BTFOd
That's subjective.

And it still doesn't change what I said soooo. .  wait are you even trying to refute what I said?
You're right in what you said, which is the problem. There's absolutely nothing wrong with threads like these, but people love to jump on them for some reason. Apologizing on the Internet isn't some big deal.

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The Flood / Re: "Only women can be raped"
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:24:27 PM »
Literally no reasonable person believes this.

Don't know why so many feminazis are so eager to believe it, it actually takes power away from women to imply they can never be the aggressor in a sexual crime.

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Haha
>having to apologies and redeem yourself to avatars on a forum
ooooh, someone's apologizing on the Internet

scary stuff

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You know making this much of an effort to explain yourself just shows that you're more easily affected by events here ergo it leaves you wide open for more attacking in the eyes of certain people.
Any kind of explanation is damage control and any time you admit you were wrong you got BTFOd

Don't contribute to this anti-reasonability mindset.

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The Flood / Re: Regarding last night and Kupo's ban
« on: April 22, 2016, 12:33:09 PM »
I don't think Kupo even wants to be here, so it's not that big of a loss.

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The Flood / Re: Kanye West...
« on: April 22, 2016, 11:52:47 AM »
I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye
Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye
The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye
I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye
I gotta to say, at that time I'd like to meet Kanye
See I invented Kanye, it wasn't any Kanyes
And now I look and look around and there's so many Kanyes
I used to love Kanye, I used to love Kanye
I even had the pink Polo, I thought I was Kanye
What if Kanye made a song, about Kanye?
Called "I Miss The Old Kanye,"
Man, that would be so Kanye!

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this might be an old meme, idk I'm not a memefag

but I always laugh out loud at the whole Cory in the House is an anime meme

I don't know why

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The binding to the nameplate was intentional. It's a trade off; you can have a cool nameplate or a heart icon.
why not just use the marty symbol as the basis so you can have both

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Gaming / Re: Immersion or story?
« on: April 22, 2016, 11:04:34 AM »
But now we have characters like Nathan Drake, Rico Rodriguez, FF protagonists, etc, that are more like movie characters that you simply control out of cutscenes and scripted events. The story might be better because of it, but the immersion suffers. With those characters, you're not playing as yourself, you're playing as them.
Not familiar with Rico Rodriguez, but I don't think Nathan Drake is necessarily a good example of that. He's not Indiana Jones--he's what you get when you take he average schmuck and take him on an adventure, dragging him through various James Bond-esque perils--but he's not James Bond.

It's evident with his personality, the way he talks, and how he's always stumbling around--he's just a regular guy.

FF protagonists can be pretty out there, though. I'll give you that.
Oh, absolutely. But I'm not even necessarily talking about protagonists being relatable, I'm talking about them being blank slates. Even with Nathan Drake, his personality is set in stone. If you as a person wouldn't act the way he does, it doesn't matter, because you're not Nathan Drake. He's a basic character, but still a pre-defined one. Something like this, though, obviously has the potential to tell a better story, because you don't have to account for any possible person the player chooses to make the protagonist.

A game like Call of Duty 4, Elder Scrolls, or the original Fallouts are much different. They build the plot around the main character instead of through them, because the main character essentially is the player. And a developer can't account for everyone who plays the game, so plotting becomes more contrived and clunky. The upside is that, as playing essentially an avatar, immersion takes a sharp boost.

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Gaming / Re: Immersion or story?
« on: April 22, 2016, 10:49:05 AM »
immersion

but if you use fallout 4 as an example not really cause the character just said whatever the fuck they wanted to say

id say some of the most immersive games are games where youre just yourself and you dont really have any set goals or objectives other than what you set yourself

not saying it has to be that way to be immersive but thats usually a good start
Yeah, I was using Fallout 4 as an example of - not immersion-based, as Prime pointed out - surrogate-based characterization shifting toward narrative-based characterization. The Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 is different from the Vault Dweller, Chosen One, and Lone Wanderer because he talks, voices what's going on in his head, has a pre-defined personality and traits, etc. You don't come up with these traits in your own mind and project them on your player character, the game does for you. That's a huge change from previous Fallouts.

I don't think one is inherently better than the other, and I can't say that I even personally prefer one over the other.

When it comes to pre-established characters, it's important to keep in mind that most "pre-established" characters are essentially meant to be write-ins for the player. They're often as generic as possible so that the highest number of people can relate with them, making self-insertion, and thus immersion, easier.

So in one way or another, you're pretty much always technically playing the game as yourself. I can't think of very many counterexamples off the top of my head.
Most games until lately were dominated by stand in/surrogate characters. DOOM comes to mind as establishing the silent protagonist trend.

But now we have characters like Nathan Drake, Rico Rodriguez, FF protagonists, etc, that are more like movie characters that you simply control out of cutscenes and scripted events. The story might be better because of it, but the immersion suffers. With those characters, you're not playing as yourself, you're playing as them.

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