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The Flood / You have to commit a felony
« on: May 08, 2016, 02:36:14 PM »
You won't get in legal trouble, as long as you don't decline and only commit one.

What's the felony?

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The Flood / Re: Fsfsfsfsfsfsfssfsfsfsfsfsfsfss
« on: May 08, 2016, 02:23:08 PM »
ksk

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The Flood / Re: IRONY is IRONIC
« on: May 08, 2016, 02:07:37 PM »
I unironically burned down my house with stress relief candles

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The Flood / Re: I had the worst night of my life Thursday night
« on: May 07, 2016, 10:47:28 PM »
karma chameleon

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The Flood / Re: RIP SEP&AGON
« on: May 07, 2016, 10:44:03 PM »
at least I get to be a sick ghost now

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I mean, stimpaks, rad-x, and radaway are chems. You need to heal, you better also have some water on you. And radaway adds Suppressed Immunity, too.

But yeah, the actual timescale for hunger and thirst is fine.

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I'm about to start a file. I'm mostly worried about food and water. The save thing is a little annoying but if I'm constantly having to spend my time searching for food and water to live, instead of actually completing quests and going new places... I dunno. It just seems like you're going to have to spend a lot of time searching for things like food and water instead of "playing" the game if you know what I mean.
You find food and (dirty) water everywhere. All this does is make it useful.
Does dirty water have any other consequences in survival other than rads?
Yeah, it increases the chance to get certain diseases. But you can also take (no joke, I love it) herbal supplements to increase your disease immunity.

When it was in beta, I did see people saying that you get hungry and thirsty really fast, did they change that at all? Cos I don't really want to be eating and drinking basically continuously
I didn't have access to the beta, so I don't really have a point for reference. But you get hungry at a relatively reasonable rate; I lived out a regular day (no fighting or exploring) to test stuff, and it's a pretty standard breakfast/lunch/dinner thing. The shitty effect is thirst, though. You don't have to drink a lot at all if you're just living, but using any kind of chem seems to instantly bump you up a thirst level.

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You find food and (dirty) water everywhere. All this does is make it useful.
Food is extremely useful even when not playing survival, but that's only when it's cooked.
I never used the cooking feature before survival, now I see it's super useful.

But yeah, food/water is everywhere, no one's going to spend a lot of their time trying to find it.

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I'm about to start a file. I'm mostly worried about food and water. The save thing is a little annoying but if I'm constantly having to spend my time searching for food and water to live, instead of actually completing quests and going new places... I dunno. It just seems like you're going to have to spend a lot of time searching for things like food and water instead of "playing" the game if you know what I mean.
You find food and (dirty) water everywhere. All this does is make it useful.

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The Flood / Re: still haven't hit Morty
« on: May 07, 2016, 08:22:24 PM »

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The Flood / still haven't hit Morty
« on: May 07, 2016, 08:15:47 PM »
wtf cheat

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because their food is shit so even something as trashy as a quarter pounder is luxury to them?
check out the big brain on brett!

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The Flood / Re: Do you ever tell people you're atheist?
« on: May 07, 2016, 07:25:57 PM »
How did this become a meme dump thread
challengerX

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The Flood / Re: I have a question for you white male Christians
« on: May 07, 2016, 07:12:22 PM »
Hungry Howies, it was good
I love that place

straight up the best bread from any pizza chain

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I think the bed thing is too annoying. There needs to be some periodic autosave or something for a safety net, because this game crashes too often to not have it.
I always hear this complaint, which is weird to me. I've only had one crash in the entire time I've played the game, and it was like an hour into my first character.

I don't know what I'm doing differently.

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The Flood / Re: Motherfucking DEAD forum
« on: May 07, 2016, 06:10:41 PM »
So dumb

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The Flood / Re: Do you ever tell people you're atheist?
« on: May 07, 2016, 05:31:15 PM »
If it comes up I will say I am agnostic, because I am. Who should give a shit except me? It has no effect on others.
Agnostic atheist?
I'm agnostic? How the hell is someone agnostic atheist. I swear those people are the same as people who try to identify as a seperate gender every day.


Idiot.
Literal Tumblr fag.
What the fuck? There's nothing tumblr about this, it's how agnosticism works.
Just like how me being one gender one day and another gender the next is how gender works.
That's not how gender works.

This IS how agnosticism works. Like, objectively. You can go talk to the most conservative, anti-SJW professor in the world, and he'll tell you the same thing I'm telling you.

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Eh, it's okay. Still doesn't change any of the stuff I hate about Fallout 4. Honestly if Fallout 5 is anything like Fallout 4 I may just give up.

I honestly prefer New Vegas's hardcore.
I don't even really see Fallout 4 as a Fallout game, it's way too different from the established formula and feel. But it's still an excellent game, even moreso with this update.

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The Flood / Re: Do you ever tell people you're atheist?
« on: May 07, 2016, 05:25:38 PM »
If it comes up I will say I am agnostic, because I am. Who should give a shit except me? It has no effect on others.
Agnostic atheist?
I'm agnostic? How the hell is someone agnostic atheist. I swear those people are the same as people who try to identify as a seperate gender every day.


Idiot.
Literal Tumblr fag.
What the fuck? There's nothing tumblr about this, it's how agnosticism works.

11991
The Flood / Re: Do you ever tell people you're atheist?
« on: May 07, 2016, 05:16:15 PM »
If it comes up I will say I am agnostic, because I am. Who should give a shit except me? It has no effect on others.
Agnostic atheist?
I'm agnostic? How the hell is someone agnostic atheist. I swear those people are the same as people who try to identify as a seperate gender every day.


Idiot.

11992
The Flood / Re: I have a question for you white male Christians
« on: May 07, 2016, 04:16:14 PM »
2 outta 3 aint bad

11993
How does the damage model feel? I've got another week before I can get my teeth into survival mode and I'd like to know how it feels.

Can you give a few examples of how much killing your average raider requires?
One that's appropriately scaled to your level and you aren't using a trash-gun or a baton etc

It'd be nice if a headshot feels like a headshot, because even with the multipliers and the like it pisses me off to nail someone in the eyesocket with a .50 and have them laugh it off <_<
If you shoot a leveled Raider anywhere but the head once, even the torso, they're nearly dead. Like, 80% of their health gone. If you have something like a shotgun at close range or a high-power rifle, even that alone will kill them. With a headshot, pretty much any gun in the game will one shot a raider. Things like Super Mutants are different, they take three or four body shots to bring down. A headshot with a decent rifle (or any headshot with a sneak attack) will one shot them, though.

But on the other side, you can take maybe three direct hits before you die. If you're unprepared and you zip around a corner, just to see a room with three raiders in it, you're dead. You can pop all the jet/psycho/stims you want in that situation, but you're still going to die. It makes combat a lot more stealth oriented of course, but also puts a LOT more emphasis on positioning, drawing out enemies, and avoiding fights altogether.
That sounds perfect

How are you finding adjusting to the sleep-saving and have you had any crashes fuck you over notably yet?
A lot of people took issue with the whole sleep to save thing, but I love it. It's the only real way to give death meaning. In the vanilla game, if you see a big fire and activity in the distance, you can quicksave and check it out. If it turns out to be a big Gunner base and they shoot you down, no big deal, you just reload. In survival, you have to make tactical choices like whether or not to investigate the camp, how to do so, whether to just scout it out or attack it, and such, because you're fearing for your life. And when you narrowly escape the clutches of death, it feels so much more rewarding than in the base game. It's definitely a big change, and I've had to repeat several parts upwards of four times (getting Reba II was so hard), but in general, sleep to save makes everything more dramatic and meaningful.

As for glitches, I never had any game-stopping bugs when I even played F4 the first time. So far, so good.

11994
It's literally the same game
cool kid alert

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How does the damage model feel? I've got another week before I can get my teeth into survival mode and I'd like to know how it feels.

Can you give a few examples of how much killing your average raider requires?
One that's appropriately scaled to your level and you aren't using a trash-gun or a baton etc

It'd be nice if a headshot feels like a headshot, because even with the multipliers and the like it pisses me off to nail someone in the eyesocket with a .50 and have them laugh it off <_<
If you shoot a leveled Raider anywhere but the head once, even the torso, they're nearly dead. Like, 80% of their health gone. If you have something like a shotgun at close range or a high-power rifle, even that alone will kill them. With a headshot, pretty much any gun in the game will one shot a raider. Things like Super Mutants are different, they take three or four body shots to bring down. A headshot with a decent rifle (or any headshot with a sneak attack) will one shot them, though.

But on the other side, you can take maybe three direct hits before you die. If you're unprepared and you zip around a corner, just to see a room with three raiders in it, you're dead. You can pop all the jet/psycho/stims you want in that situation, but you're still going to die. It makes combat a lot more stealth oriented of course, but also puts a LOT more emphasis on positioning, drawing out enemies, and avoiding fights altogether.

11996
Still doesn't fix a lot of the problems with the game.

I don't know if they fixed it, but having a milk/nuka cola bottle filled with water, only to use it and for it to permanently disappear, is annoying.
You mean the fact that bottles aren't reusable? Doesn't make much sense, but it's more of a balance thing. You're right that the game still has plenty of problems, though, most of them in the dialogue/choices department.
I don't think it's much about balance. If survival is supposed to add realism, you should be able to keep a bottle.
It's already been stated as an intentional feature and not a bug from Bethesda, so it's definitely about balance. If the bottles didn't go away, you could pretty much just have unlimited purified water, which would render the whole thirst system useless. Survival adds realism, but at the end of the day, it's still a video game.

11997
Still doesn't fix a lot of the problems with the game.

I don't know if they fixed it, but having a milk/nuka cola bottle filled with water, only to use it and for it to permanently disappear, is annoying.
You mean the fact that bottles aren't reusable? Doesn't make much sense, but it's more of a balance thing. You're right that the game still has plenty of problems, though, most of them in the dialogue/choices department.

11998
Gaming / Fallout 4 survival - literally a completely different game
« on: May 07, 2016, 02:51:38 PM »
Who here has downloaded and played the 1.5 patch? It's incredible. There was always something missing in vanilla Fallout 4, and I feel like that piece was immersion. The game was whole and the gameplay was fun, but the world seemed so simple and barren.

But this mode changes that. With no fast travel, you see so much more, and you get a true feel for the world. Even radiant quests have a weight and importance to them, it's not just popping in somewhere, killing people, and popping back. The unique journies you take from Goodneighbor to Bunker Hill to Diamond City are full experiences in and of themselves. And that's not even touching the diseases, realisic damage scale, and basic needs additions. This is something that should've been packaged with the game day one, and in my opinion, the true way to play Fallout 4. Whereas other Fallouts are primarily role playing games, Fallout 4 is now more or less an apocalypse survival simulator. And it's amazing.

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The Flood / Re: Do you want to know the best meme of all time?
« on: May 07, 2016, 12:50:37 PM »
Bad meme.
The first word here is redundant.

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