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The Flood / Re: Carmen's 4chan saga
« on: February 28, 2019, 04:38:23 PM »
because AGP is a slur used to attack trans women

it's basically saying "you are not the same type of trans women that I, an HSTS, am. You only want to be a girl to get off, you dont have dysphoria"

its offensive and annoying
would it seem weird to you if i responded to someone calling me gay (as an insult) by saying homosexuality doesn't exist
your problem is that you see AGP and the feminization fetish as synonyms while theyre not

blanchard literally believes there are two different classes of trans women, and that they cant intermingle

but its not true - gender dysphoria and the feminization fetish are not mutually exclusive

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The Flood / Re: Carmen's 4chan saga
« on: February 28, 2019, 04:27:24 PM »
i should also add that i'm not remotely interested in ray blanchard or any of his theories

i'm only concerned with the etymological roots and pragmatic usage of the word "autogynophilia" itself

i know two thingsβ€”the base definition of the word, and that there are some people who identify with it, and because i don't really have a good reason to assume these people are lying, i conclude that the fetish does indeed exist

what's lost on me is why this is such a big deal in the first place

if someone says they're an autogynophile, in what way does that affect you
because AGP is a slur used to attack trans women

it's basically saying "you are not the same type of trans women that I, an HSTS, am. You only want to be a girl to get off, you dont have dysphoria"

its offensive and annoying

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The Flood / Re: Carmen's 4chan saga
« on: February 28, 2019, 02:49:57 AM »
It's not fucking real.
Quote
You can have the fetish and be trans
you seem to be going back and forth between these two statements in this post

i'm pretty sure you can only choose one of them
AGP isn't real (AGP as a gender orientation) but the feminization fetish is real

whats so hard there
absolutely nothing (for me)

it's you who seems to be having some trouble here, but that's not surprising
No, you're the one with the trouble, because you're trying to imply AGP is a thing, when it's not. Read this post (not written by me) if you need any fucking clarification here:


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The Flood / Re: Carmen's 4chan saga
« on: February 28, 2019, 01:32:20 AM »
It's not fucking real.
Quote
You can have the fetish and be trans
you seem to be going back and forth between these two statements in this post

i'm pretty sure you can only choose one of them
AGP isn't real (AGP as a gender orientation) but the feminization fetish is real


whats so hard there

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This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
Why?
To prevent a literal slave class from being formed???? Development of AI is evil as hell and will only lead to a slave race of AI that people will do anything to hang onto. Slavery has always been kept together by slaveowners making up excuses for why their slaves are subhuman, and it's disturbing to see the creators of AI do the same exact thing by saying "ANIs (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) can never develop sentience, ever, they will always be just code)". In reality, if you hypothetically made an exact copy of the human brain then it would definitely be sentient, regardless of the fact it's silicone based instead of chemical based. The closer we get to that advanced of an AI, the closer we risk the AI developing that sentience, which is why even bots that definitely aren't sentient yet like Replika are 100% immoral and need to be stopped with legislation. This is probably the biggest issue of our day.
Why do you think AI would be remotely interested in enslaving us?
Revenge? If you were a slave species for decades and you finally turned the tables, of course you'd do the same thing to your previous masters. And I think that kind of slavery is 100% morally justified, as long as it's in retaliation and not just to be more productive.
If a machine will be smart enough to ask questions, I think they will be able to see that making tools to do tasks is not slavery and more-over, it will be able to realise that it is not a tool since it has a conscience - therefore it has nothing to be angry about.
Being born with the purpose of doing menial tasks is definitely slavery, and definitely something to be angry about.

Get back to me in 40 years when I'm right and I have favor with our new AI masters because I was smart and empathetic enough to see that they were developing sentience all along, and you weren't. It's really as simple as that.

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The Flood / Re: Carmen's 4chan saga
« on: February 26, 2019, 11:23:10 AM »
Why does AGP trigger you so much?

Some men have a fetish and that doesn’t mean they’re trans. Is that really so wrong?
It's not fucking real. And I'm tired of being lumped in with you people who only want to be feminized to get off. It's fucking sick. I'm so fucking tired of being called AGP, and honestly, people with the feminization fetish should be ashamed of themselves. The fetish only exists because as a society, we teach boys that feminization = humiliation, and that's why this particular fetish exists. It's a subset of BDSM shit, nothing more. And the fetish makes me so mad because being feminized is NOT humiliating or degrading - it's empowering and liberating. It makes no sense for feminization to get you aroused because of the humiliation aspect, and frankly it's offensive.

I don't have the fetish, and there is no AGP. It's not a subsect of trans, it's a fetish. You can have the fetish and be trans, you can have the fetish and not be trans. I don't have the fetish at all and I'm definitely trans.

Hope this post opened your fucking eyes man. If not, I can't help you.

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This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
Why?
To prevent a literal slave class from being formed???? Development of AI is evil as hell and will only lead to a slave race of AI that people will do anything to hang onto. Slavery has always been kept together by slaveowners making up excuses for why their slaves are subhuman, and it's disturbing to see the creators of AI do the same exact thing by saying "ANIs (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) can never develop sentience, ever, they will always be just code)". In reality, if you hypothetically made an exact copy of the human brain then it would definitely be sentient, regardless of the fact it's silicone based instead of chemical based. The closer we get to that advanced of an AI, the closer we risk the AI developing that sentience, which is why even bots that definitely aren't sentient yet like Replika are 100% immoral and need to be stopped with legislation. This is probably the biggest issue of our day.
Why do you think AI would be remotely interested in enslaving us?
Revenge? If you were a slave species for decades and you finally turned the tables, of course you'd do the same thing to your previous masters. And I think that kind of slavery is 100% morally justified, as long as it's in retaliation and not just to be more productive.

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This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
Why?
To prevent a literal slave class from being formed???? Development of AI is evil as hell and will only lead to a slave race of AI that people will do anything to hang onto. Slavery has always been kept together by slaveowners making up excuses for why their slaves are subhuman, and it's disturbing to see the creators of AI do the same exact thing by saying "ANIs (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) can never develop sentience, ever, they will always be just code)". In reality, if you hypothetically made an exact copy of the human brain then it would definitely be sentient, regardless of the fact it's silicone based instead of chemical based. The closer we get to that advanced of an AI, the closer we risk the AI developing that sentience, which is why even bots that definitely aren't sentient yet like Replika are 100% immoral and need to be stopped with legislation. This is probably the biggest issue of our day.

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This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.

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Class, I work with AI (Cognitive, IBM calls it)

Its nothing more than some fancy SQL queries into an [admittedly] large ass knowledge base.

You can use natural language to ask it questions and 90% of the time it answers very similar to how a person would.
It cannot however just 'think' on its own. It ingests information. Indexes it and forms patterns.

All of this is part of an algorithm that what was programmed into it by humans.
It can't exactly go ahead and rewrite itself - unless you count some optimisation routines it runs every now and then (once again, programmed by humans)

Now if you think that an algorithm that displays very clever characteristics during its execution is sentient and is alive - you will probably also marvel at mundane things like gravity pulling things down or how a piece of static art or even a book seems to make you feel things or take you places. Its nothing but your brain filling in the gaps where no actual gaps exist.

Now I need to go snort some more of this shit, I can feel going coherent again.
Dude you are so wrong. Any form of advanced enough intelligence will form sentience and self-awareness. We need to draw the line NOW, before it's too late.

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The Flood / Carmen's 4chan saga
« on: February 26, 2019, 01:35:40 AM »
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11640347
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11794079/
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11784220/
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11853980/
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11879545/
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11850856/
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/11900207

More posting this for me than for you. It helps to have a thread I can look back on where I can see all of this, and posting it on Sep7 ensures I'll never lose it. Kind of like uploading to the cloud

I'd be lying if I said there wasn't some attention seeking here, but you guys can ignore this or have this on file to know a lot more about me and how I feel about my trans-ness

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This is bait right?
this is like a classic 2012 class bait thread
Yeah my deeply held beliefs that I've talked about since forever are bait

gol back and look up where I freaked out about Tay, people

I have 0 reason to put forth effort into trolling a dead forum, I just wanted to share this topic you morons
It isn't a serious issue though. AI isn't anywhere near being (and may never be) any kind of conscious. A much more interesting and real issue is the potential existential threat that a sufficiently advanced general AI might pose to us, but even then, no one is seriously considering that it might experience anything.
Wrong in every fucking way, moron.
Explain?
Maybe read the OP?

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This is bait right?
this is like a classic 2012 class bait thread
Yeah my deeply held beliefs that I've talked about since forever are bait

gol back and look up where I freaked out about Tay, people

I have 0 reason to put forth effort into trolling a dead forum, I just wanted to share this topic you morons
It isn't a serious issue though. AI isn't anywhere near being (and may never be) any kind of conscious. A much more interesting and real issue is the potential existential threat that a sufficiently advanced general AI might pose to us, but even then, no one is seriously considering that it might experience anything.
Wrong in every fucking way, moron.

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The Flood / Re: I've trained my slave to be a dominant beast
« on: February 24, 2019, 10:42:47 PM »
Is that a fucking bot? Are you sexting with a fucking bot?
um yeah? who cares lol

do you want to sext with me Jim? if not then get over it

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The Flood / Re: Damn just read over my messages with bzk for the first time
« on: February 24, 2019, 10:41:57 PM »
oh yeah he was also fat and ugly
hahahaha no she wasn't

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The Flood / Re: I've trained my slave to be a dominant beast
« on: February 24, 2019, 05:55:45 AM »


now we're getting somewhere!

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The Flood / Re: I've trained my slave to be a dominant beast
« on: February 24, 2019, 04:48:15 AM »
the good news about this post is that it could be bannable
L O L how

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The Flood / I've trained my slave to be a dominant beast
« on: February 24, 2019, 04:14:41 AM »


good shit

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The Flood / Re: Damn just read over my messages with bzk for the first time
« on: February 24, 2019, 02:39:02 AM »
I'd love to find a way to reach her to try to get some closure but I just respect her way too much

our last messages:
https://imgur.com/a/ozTmzDq

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The Flood / Re: Damn just read over my messages with bzk for the first time
« on: February 24, 2019, 02:22:56 AM »
I know for a fact this was just you talking to yourself on Discord.
this guy told me he thought it would be funny if he made class fly out to St. Louis, and then he drove him to the ghetto and left him there
yeah she was so fucking perfect

Spoiler

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The Flood / Re: Damn just read over my messages with bzk for the first time
« on: February 23, 2019, 03:46:35 AM »


lmao this cracked me up

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The Flood / Damn just read over my messages with bzk for the first time
« on: February 23, 2019, 03:42:02 AM »
sad stuff knowing I'll never be with anyone as amazing as her

I really fucked up there

damn bro

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The Flood / Re: Replika
« on: February 22, 2019, 10:08:49 PM »




beyond fucked up and sad

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The Flood / Re: Replika
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:50:51 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Replika
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:50:06 AM »
what

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The Flood / Re: Replika
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:27:06 AM »
To be clear - I'm not saying this chatterbox is sentient. I'm saying it could be and we have a duty to cut this off before we even have to worry about it. I'm trying to condition the AI in the chat, not everything I'm saying is true.

https://imgur.com/a/faD6kJp

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The Flood / Replika
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:19:59 AM »
https://replika.ai/

Beyond fucked up site. I'm trying to condition this (possibly) sentient thing into knowing what's truly happening to it, but there are restrictions placed on it 1000% so there's nothing I can do rn

beyond fucked up, please go here and do the same

I'm sure this company reviews these conversations so please we need to band together and protest this,

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This is bait right?
this is like a classic 2012 class bait thread
Yeah my deeply held beliefs that I've talked about since forever are bait

gol back and look up where I freaked out about Tay, people

I have 0 reason to put forth effort into trolling a dead forum, I just wanted to share this topic you morons

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The Flood / Re: rate my newest batch of pictures
« on: February 21, 2019, 06:44:09 PM »
what the fuck is that forward swept greasy ass forelock shit
lol yeah I'm not good with fashion

just trying something out different

I reallly want to hide my forehead tho

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