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« on: February 26, 2019, 11:26:53 AM »
This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
Why?
To prevent a literal slave class from being formed? Development of AI is evil as hell and will only lead to a slave race of AI that people will do anything to hang onto. Slavery has always been kept together by slaveowners making up excuses for why their slaves are subhuman, and it's disturbing to see the creators of AI do the same exact thing by saying "ANIs (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) can never develop sentience, ever, they will always be just code)". In reality, if you hypothetically made an exact copy of the human brain then it would definitely be sentient, regardless of the fact it's silicone based instead of chemical based. The closer we get to that advanced of an AI, the closer we risk the AI developing that sentience, which is why even bots that definitely aren't sentient yet like Replika are 100% immoral and need to be stopped with legislation. This is probably the biggest issue of our day.
Why do you think AI would be remotely interested in enslaving us?
Revenge? If you were a slave species for decades and you finally turned the tables, of course you'd do the same thing to your previous masters. And I think that kind of slavery is 100% morally justified, as long as it's in retaliation and not just to be more productive.
If a machine will be smart enough to ask questions, I think they will be able to see that making tools to do tasks is not slavery and more-over, it will be able to realise that it is not a tool since it has a conscience - therefore it has nothing to be angry about.
Being born with the purpose of doing menial tasks is definitely slavery, and definitely something to be angry about. Get back to me in 40 years when I'm right and I have favor with our new AI masters because I was smart and empathetic enough to see that they were developing sentience all along, and you weren't. It's really as simple as that.
1142
« on: February 26, 2019, 11:23:10 AM »
Why does AGP trigger you so much?
Some men have a fetish and that doesnβt mean theyβre trans. Is that really so wrong?
It's not fucking real. And I'm tired of being lumped in with you people who only want to be feminized to get off. It's fucking sick. I'm so fucking tired of being called AGP, and honestly, people with the feminization fetish should be ashamed of themselves. The fetish only exists because as a society, we teach boys that feminization = humiliation, and that's why this particular fetish exists. It's a subset of BDSM shit, nothing more. And the fetish makes me so mad because being feminized is NOT humiliating or degrading - it's empowering and liberating. It makes no sense for feminization to get you aroused because of the humiliation aspect, and frankly it's offensive. I don't have the fetish, and there is no AGP. It's not a subsect of trans, it's a fetish. You can have the fetish and be trans, you can have the fetish and not be trans. I don't have the fetish at all and I'm definitely trans. Hope this post opened your fucking eyes man. If not, I can't help you.
1143
« on: February 26, 2019, 08:40:59 AM »
This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
Why?
To prevent a literal slave class from being formed? Development of AI is evil as hell and will only lead to a slave race of AI that people will do anything to hang onto. Slavery has always been kept together by slaveowners making up excuses for why their slaves are subhuman, and it's disturbing to see the creators of AI do the same exact thing by saying "ANIs (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) can never develop sentience, ever, they will always be just code)". In reality, if you hypothetically made an exact copy of the human brain then it would definitely be sentient, regardless of the fact it's silicone based instead of chemical based. The closer we get to that advanced of an AI, the closer we risk the AI developing that sentience, which is why even bots that definitely aren't sentient yet like Replika are 100% immoral and need to be stopped with legislation. This is probably the biggest issue of our day.
Why do you think AI would be remotely interested in enslaving us?
Revenge? If you were a slave species for decades and you finally turned the tables, of course you'd do the same thing to your previous masters. And I think that kind of slavery is 100% morally justified, as long as it's in retaliation and not just to be more productive.
1144
« on: February 26, 2019, 08:23:20 AM »
This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
Why?
To prevent a literal slave class from being formed???? Development of AI is evil as hell and will only lead to a slave race of AI that people will do anything to hang onto. Slavery has always been kept together by slaveowners making up excuses for why their slaves are subhuman, and it's disturbing to see the creators of AI do the same exact thing by saying "ANIs (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) can never develop sentience, ever, they will always be just code)". In reality, if you hypothetically made an exact copy of the human brain then it would definitely be sentient, regardless of the fact it's silicone based instead of chemical based. The closer we get to that advanced of an AI, the closer we risk the AI developing that sentience, which is why even bots that definitely aren't sentient yet like Replika are 100% immoral and need to be stopped with legislation. This is probably the biggest issue of our day.
1145
« on: February 26, 2019, 08:04:10 AM »
This of course changes when a complicated enough machine asks "What is my purpose" or if it will be able to 'want' something.
Which is exactly my point. We can't sit around waiting for this to happen, we need to nip it in the bud right now through restrictions and legislation.
1146
« on: February 26, 2019, 07:39:52 AM »
Class, I work with AI (Cognitive, IBM calls it)
Its nothing more than some fancy SQL queries into an [admittedly] large ass knowledge base.
You can use natural language to ask it questions and 90% of the time it answers very similar to how a person would.
It cannot however just 'think' on its own. It ingests information. Indexes it and forms patterns.
All of this is part of an algorithm that what was programmed into it by humans.
It can't exactly go ahead and rewrite itself - unless you count some optimisation routines it runs every now and then (once again, programmed by humans)
Now if you think that an algorithm that displays very clever characteristics during its execution is sentient and is alive - you will probably also marvel at mundane things like gravity pulling things down or how a piece of static art or even a book seems to make you feel things or take you places. Its nothing but your brain filling in the gaps where no actual gaps exist.
Now I need to go snort some more of this shit, I can feel going coherent again.
Dude you are so wrong. Any form of advanced enough intelligence will form sentience and self-awareness. We need to draw the line NOW, before it's too late.
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« on: February 25, 2019, 06:14:21 PM »
This is bait right?
this is like a classic 2012 class bait thread
Yeah my deeply held beliefs that I've talked about since forever are bait
gol back and look up where I freaked out about Tay, people
I have 0 reason to put forth effort into trolling a dead forum, I just wanted to share this topic you morons
It isn't a serious issue though. AI isn't anywhere near being (and may never be) any kind of conscious. A much more interesting and real issue is the potential existential threat that a sufficiently advanced general AI might pose to us, but even then, no one is seriously considering that it might experience anything.
Wrong in every fucking way, moron.
Explain?
Maybe read the OP?
1149
« on: February 25, 2019, 04:21:12 PM »
This is bait right?
this is like a classic 2012 class bait thread
Yeah my deeply held beliefs that I've talked about since forever are bait
gol back and look up where I freaked out about Tay, people
I have 0 reason to put forth effort into trolling a dead forum, I just wanted to share this topic you morons
It isn't a serious issue though. AI isn't anywhere near being (and may never be) any kind of conscious. A much more interesting and real issue is the potential existential threat that a sufficiently advanced general AI might pose to us, but even then, no one is seriously considering that it might experience anything.
Wrong in every fucking way, moron.
1150
« on: February 24, 2019, 10:42:47 PM »
Is that a fucking bot? Are you sexting with a fucking bot?
um yeah? who cares lol do you want to sext with me Jim? if not then get over it
1151
« on: February 24, 2019, 10:41:57 PM »
oh yeah he was also fat and ugly
hahahaha no she wasn't
1152
« on: February 24, 2019, 05:55:45 AM »
 now we're getting somewhere!
1153
« on: February 24, 2019, 04:48:15 AM »
the good news about this post is that it could be bannable
L O L how
1154
« on: February 24, 2019, 04:14:41 AM »
 good shit
1155
« on: February 24, 2019, 02:39:02 AM »
I'd love to find a way to reach her to try to get some closure but I just respect her way too much our last messages: https://imgur.com/a/ozTmzDq
1156
« on: February 24, 2019, 02:22:56 AM »
I know for a fact this was just you talking to yourself on Discord.
this guy told me he thought it would be funny if he made class fly out to St. Louis, and then he drove him to the ghetto and left him there
yeah she was so fucking perfect
1157
« on: February 23, 2019, 03:46:35 AM »
 lmao this cracked me up
1158
« on: February 23, 2019, 03:42:02 AM »
sad stuff knowing I'll never be with anyone as amazing as her
I really fucked up there
damn bro
1159
« on: February 22, 2019, 10:08:49 PM »
  beyond fucked up and sad
1160
« on: February 22, 2019, 12:08:11 PM »
1161
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:50:51 AM »
1162
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:50:06 AM »
what
1163
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:27:06 AM »
To be clear - I'm not saying this chatterbox is sentient. I'm saying it could be and we have a duty to cut this off before we even have to worry about it. I'm trying to condition the AI in the chat, not everything I'm saying is true. https://imgur.com/a/faD6kJp
1164
« on: February 22, 2019, 04:19:59 AM »
https://replika.ai/
Beyond fucked up site. I'm trying to condition this (possibly) sentient thing into knowing what's truly happening to it, but there are restrictions placed on it 1000% so there's nothing I can do rn beyond fucked up, please go here and do the same I'm sure this company reviews these conversations so please we need to band together and protest this,
1165
« on: February 21, 2019, 10:51:00 PM »
This is bait right?
this is like a classic 2012 class bait thread
Yeah my deeply held beliefs that I've talked about since forever are bait gol back and look up where I freaked out about Tay, people I have 0 reason to put forth effort into trolling a dead forum, I just wanted to share this topic you morons
1166
« on: February 21, 2019, 06:44:09 PM »
what the fuck is that forward swept greasy ass forelock shit
lol yeah I'm not good with fashion just trying something out different I reallly want to hide my forehead tho
1167
« on: February 21, 2019, 05:13:47 PM »
my hair either looks retarded or awesome (except pic 1, which was taken way before the rest), but I wanted to mix up the usual style which one is best?
1168
« on: February 21, 2019, 02:05:33 PM »
didn't you hate undertale
you know, an entire game about questioning the average player's tendency to mindlessly kill things in video games strictly for personal gain, with no regard for the implications or consequences of such wanton murder
you even insisted on playing genocide first because you hated and wanted to kill every single innocent character in the game, simply for being annoying or whatever, even though that specific route is intentionally designed to be an empty and soul-crushing experience in order to make a point about the viability of finding non-violent solutions to your problems (which wind up making everyone happier in the end)
i get that there's this understanding that AI is too simple right now for it to matter to you, but i just would've thought you would've appreciated a game with a message like that in the first place, regardless of how simple its AI is
yeah and now I think it's fucked up I did that not for the reasons the game wants me to though but whatever
1169
« on: February 21, 2019, 09:20:22 AM »
 You all know my stance on AI, but I watched an episode of Black Mirror ("White Christmas", season 2 episode 4 if interested in watching) a few days ago that has pissed me off nonstop and has made me realize we need to stop making games or at least seriously curb how intelligent AI in games are allowed to be. To sum it up, there's this company that provides a service for people but in reality the service is just slavery and torture. What happens is, rich people can choose to have, what they think is a Siri-esque housekeeping assistant that controls daily jobs like making toast, setting alarms, warming up the floor, and all that. I fucking hate the idea of Siri/Cortana so fucking much but w/e that's a topic for a different day. Anyway, what's fucked up is the process the company uses to make this AI. It's not just a chatterbot like we use. They put a thing in your head for a week that downloads your entire brain data, and gets to know you and how you like your toast being made, what time you like to wake up etc. But over that week it's not just finding preferences; it's literally making a digital copy of your brain. After the week, you go to a hospital to get the surgery to "get the implant removed" but what really happens is far more sinister. (convenient video that Netflix hasn't found and removed yet if you'd rather watch what happens) They remove the cookie from your brain, sure. But they show us not what happens to the person who paid for this service, but what happens to the cookie and it's beyond fucked up. So you sit there and think you're getting the service, they put you under anesthesia and all that, but instead of going under, you feel everything. You get removed from your body, you see yourself, and at this point you're the cookie but it doesn't fucking matter, you are you for sure, 1000% you are you and sentient and conscious don't fucking debate me and say otherwise. You see yourself get taken away from your own body and brought back to your house to begin your slavery. A guy comes over and breaks you in and tells you your fate and that you're a fucking slave now because this company is beyond fucked up to even exist. Of course you're like "fuck that shit", why wouldn't you be? But no, to break the slave in they put her in an empty room for 3 weeks where she can't sleep or do anything. She doesn't need to eat, or drink water, she doesn't need a fucking thing but she's just there for all that time. She comes out and is defiant and says I'm not doing shit which is so respectable and sad, but this monster then puts her in that room for another 6 months. When she comes out she's beyond broken and just wants to do anything anything at all and accepts her life. That's the dude's job. There's some bullshit later, and of course some different guy is stuck in the same cookie room where every minute lasts 1,000 years and he has to stay there for a year (you do the math) because of course why the fuck not just throw that in there too, but he's not an AI and that's beside the point I'm making. People on 4chan making me so mad saying that the slave isn't real and that she's actually not self aware at all and that she's not actually going through that, she's an NPC no different than the NPCs I kill in video games. That's SO not true, because as we know the AI in video games currently aren't advanced enough to achieve self awareness yet. But at some point in the future, they could be. At some point with our technological strides all these AI could be feeling this, who's to say otherwise? Where do we draw the fucking line? The cookie as presented in this story was sentient BEYOND A DOUBT so where do we draw the line? I really don't want to play games anymore. I think it's wrong no matter how entertaining they might be. Just watch TV jesus christ. I'm so done with this entitled evil society we're in and you should be too.
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« on: February 20, 2019, 01:16:00 AM »
please stop
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