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The Flood / Re: How good are your baking skills?
« on: May 09, 2019, 01:19:11 PM »





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this thread deserves more recognition - way more important than my other one

I'll even add a cool photo to this thread


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The Flood / Re: I've finally started it!
« on: May 09, 2019, 11:00:23 AM »
Ayyyy.

Take pics to track your progress. I was lazy / forgot and didn't and I really regret it on days I'm not sure if it's working or not.
Wait, you've been taking estradiol?
Yeah?
...this fucking site is full of degenerates, I swear.

When did you become such an asshole?
It's always been this way. I want him as as a friend who I can help, but it's so off putting to interact

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People called me a trender and that I'm not even trans or that I'm AGP for so long, and now when I get on hormones, those aggressive faces turned into friendly ones. It's sick seeing people questioning the legitimacy of a person's "transness" (way out of my element here so bare with me) based on whether or not their current social and/or financial status allows them to take HRT.

So much toxicity within trans groups is all I can say. You'd think it would be like, we're all in the same boat, but no. It's just funny that I've now joined this secret club/clique, and fucked up as well.

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The Flood / Re: I've finally started it!
« on: May 08, 2019, 12:26:56 AM »
Ayyyy.

Take pics to track your progress. I was lazy / forgot and didn't and I really regret it on days I'm not sure if it's working or not.
Aw thank you for the support! I take selfies a lot so this shouldn't be a problem.

Oh you're on Spiro, too?
I mean don't spiro and estrogen go hand in hand?

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The Flood / I've finally started it!
« on: May 07, 2019, 04:06:43 PM »


Soonβ„’ I will be a true amazon

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The Flood / Re: Do You Use A Top Sheet?
« on: May 02, 2019, 04:10:33 PM »
^only of all I don't care

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The Flood / Re: Do You Use A Top Sheet?
« on: May 02, 2019, 03:50:26 PM »
when I have energy I'll put down my satin sheet above my mattress

otherwise, I'll just do mattress > me > blanket

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I think he made two excellent points.
I refuted his first point, and instead of continuing on, he just changed the subject.

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^this is my favorite image ever

bonus points for him bringing up ASOUE while the quote on the left is from those very books

Spoiler
In case you missed the point, he changed the subject and the quote on the left talks about why people do that

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The Flood / Re: """Sonic""" the Hedgehog movie trailer
« on: April 30, 2019, 02:42:24 PM »
I'm impressed by this courageous stance you've taken - what a bold opinion!

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lol so true, Jiovana

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YouTube

this made me SO hyped for the game when I first saw it, and I was disappointed because I was poor as hell and had no system to play it on

well now I have like 200+ hours in the game collectively (first PS4 a few years ago, and my new PS4 now), and going back to this trailer it makes me want to play all over again even though I'm at the end of New Game+ and really need to get on with playing Death of the Outsider

dont move this to gaming, and I'll tell you why: my next line in which I make this a non-gaming related thread

What trailers, can be game, show, movie, w/e, get you pumped up as hell?

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:46:53 PM »
But these flaws just make us love the character more.
nope

it seems to me that you just like shit characters
LOL dude, I'm far from alone in loving these people. You just have the bleakest outlook in the world, and it certainly extends to how you feel about fictional worlds and the characters within them.

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:42:04 PM »
note that one part:
normally, well-written character flaws are supposed to make you like the character less for the purpose of the narrative, or at the very least, hope that they improve themselves over the course of the story
This isn't even true. Maybe if the character is a heel - which Azula isn't. You're never supposed to think she's a monster, by the way - she's a fucking child; it's clear from like 7 episodes into season 2 that she's only this way because her father was the only one in her life who cared about her (in a utilitarian way, sure, but how is an 11 year old supposed to know that?) She was never a candidate for Iroh's tutelage or even for her mother's care and support. Again, all of this didn't come from some late season 3 episode - it came nearly as soon as her character was introduced.

But going back to this "flaws are supposed to make us dislike the character" nonsense, how much can you possibly miss the idea of likeable flaws? That's not bad writing - it's good writing.

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Britta Perry is the worst ever, and constantly says dumb things that come from the heart. Still, her flaws are numerous and people are quick to point that out. Does that mean that we, the viewers, are turned off by those flaws? Absolutely not! They endear us to her even more. Britta can't be a mary sue, because she's not supposed to be "cool", she's  supposed to be the opposite. Yet, she still has leagues of fans and tons of intellectual discussion about her.

But Britta is a hero. What about someone like Aku, a villain? Well, his flaws are literally the essence of his character. He's not just pure evil in some wordy 3rd grader understanding of "good and bad". He's pure "evil" (toxic) in terms of his actual personality traits. His braggadocio, pettiness, smugness, narcissism, and straight-up rudeness are all embedded character traits, and he has those traits because of his very nature (a big black evil mass).

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But these flaws just make us love the character more. They don't make us dislike him and aren't in service to a larger arc where we like him more when he overcomes those flaws. He never overcomes them, and he has the flaws throughout the entire series. But like I said, that's why he has fans and why he's such an endearing, funny character.

EDIT: Didn't see you edited your post to include villains, actually - but my point still stands.

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:13:52 PM »
There's no set definition for this type of character,
i was always well-aware of this, and i thought that you were tooβ€”the whole idea is that i think my definition is better than yours, because it's much broader and captures the essence of the common tendency for writers to want to write "perfect" characters, whether it be a weak attempt at inserting a projection of themselves into the narrative, or a projection of their innate desire to write a perfect character that everyone will think is cool (which is where azula lies)

you can like her all you want, but your overzealous appreciation comes across to me as shallow fetishization more than anything else, which has always been extremely off-putting
Azula is cool, though. And Verbatim, I'm overzealous about literally everything. Maybe someday you'll realize I don't fetishize Azula any more than I fetishize Britta Perry, Dale Cooper, Stanley Pines, Diana Lombard, Clover, Emily Kaldwin, Colonel Moore, or any other amazing character that I'm obsessed with. You only have the idea I do it with Azula because I did unironically have a crush on her as a child, and it was probably she who awoke the BDSM/sub tendencies in me and my desire to serve a strong person. Put those healthy mental developments the character helped me with aside, and she's no different than any other character I like for actual characterization reasons.

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The Flood / "Grey Delisle isn't a good VA"
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:06:50 PM »
https://youtu.be/hAiySOONc2I?t=71

1:11 - 1:36 is the part I'm referring to - just listen to her monotonous, joyless, hateful tone, but clearly trying to grasp something greater than that. (Next part is more of a writing thing) Mandy's character in this episode is just so good. From her first interaction with Grim & Billy, where she asks something seemingly very OOC, it's so heartbreaking to see her struggle with her own identity and try to progress herself as a person.

"Birds fly, over the rainbow. Why then, oh why...can't...I?"

It's part of the song, but from her inflection, you know she's literally asking this question out to the abyss - it's not fair that she has to be this way, in other words. And she indeed does have to be that way - when she drops the negativity at the end of the episode, reality itself gets torn apart. Pretty goddamn tragic and poignant for an irreverent horror comedy, and that tragedy wouldn't be nearly as illustrated without GDL's acting.

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 12:50:28 PM »
the true definition of a mary sue is an author insert
nope

sometimes it's a manifestation of a writer's desire to create the coolest possible character

which is why it backfires so hard and so often when writers write like this
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue

Fun fact: We're actually both right. There's no set definition for this type of character, though I've always heard it referred to as an author insert.



HOWEVER:



So my perception of what the character is isn't baseless, anyway.

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The Flood / Re: I had a fucking adventure today -- Part II
« on: April 30, 2019, 12:18:00 PM »
No offense but this is why I have very little to 0 sympathy for the homeless drugged out disassociated  weirdos I see on the streets or in SF or something. We got to watch your descent firsthand pretty interesting

No offense but you're just as gross as Carmen.
how am I gross

I'm saying he's "gross" the in the same way he considers you to be gross. There are things you've done here I don't approve of that I could describe as gross (working high, stealing, b & e), but I would sooner just say "disapprove."

My problem with Jive's post is that he's trying to shame you for sucking dick... while he relentlessly talks about his sex life and posts grotesque photos of his last conquest's dismembered vulva. As if he isn't a slut. Then he tries to look down on drug users as if he isn't a junkie, too. And he does all this to fuel a superiority complex and justify looking down on people he doesn't even know. He's in no position to say anything.

thanks for actually using my name tho

Of course :) Although admittedly I still call you Class sometimes out of habit.
Yeah except I didn’t say anything, let alone care, about him sucking dick lol. I’m unsympathetic because he is just clearly a trashy person who is completely delusional about a ton of things, homeless druggies being his friend for one. Won’t listen to a single person here giving advice that would improve his wellbeing(far too late for that anyways). Shows up to work intoxicated(trash) steals from stores(trash), interacts with family and younger impressionable siblings while strung out on drugs(trash). I’m sure similarities of Carmens mindset are shared among a huge majority of the trashy homeless druggies that aren’t making attempts to get better.

And also, I’ve never posted any naked women on here(much respect to the ladies), have been in a committed relationship for months now, and don’t do any drugs except some social alcohol maybe twice a month and the occasional tab of acid twice a year. So my superiority over Carmen is highly justified if you ask me, I’m on a much higher ground in every aspect
Your "advice" is shit like "stop doing DXM you piece of trash", and yes when you approach me that way I'm probably going to ignore you.

No, I don't judge ANYONE - a homeless man is just as much of valid person as a rich CEO. John (name of the one I'm familiar with) is doubtlessly a better person than you. Your entire life is made of judgment.

My life, on the other hand, is fine. I'm getting a Starbucks job soon (getting that trans insurance) and I'm literally starting hormones this week when they call me. I waited at Minnie Jones for about 3 hours this morning (it's my third appointment with them), and signed a bunch of consent forms. Pretty positive outlook for my life. I've told my clinician about my DXM habits, by the way, and he was far from concerned. He asked if it helps me with my dysphoria and upon my affirmation of that, added it to my list of medications that I'm on, along with marijuana. Not everyone, even in the medical industry, is as close-minded as the people on this forum.

I'm stopping cigarettes altogether because with estrogen, there's a huge risk of blood complications if I were to continue. Please don't pretend I don't improve myself every day just because you enjoy a different lifestyle than me.

I finally went to the eye doctor and got contacts, so now I can finally see more than a foot in front of me!

Also I've been keeping up a journal which is helpful. I haven't done DXM in like 6 days but got some today, which is awesome. No weed to go with it but oh well!

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 28, 2019, 09:39:46 PM »
Bro that's all such bullshit, you have no idea what a mary sue is. Being perfect is a symptom of a mary sue and not the definition of one, sure, and that's because the true definition of a mary sue is an author insert. It's who the author wishes they could be, so they insert them into the story with no flaws and where everyone loves them, and where any flaws are good, reasonable flaws.

Azula is none of that, and HOLY SHIT did you seriously just insult GDL's master-class voice acting? She was the only one in the audition booth who actually voiced Azula with a clear, crisp delivery instead of the cliche evil villain hammy delivery. You're delusional.

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 27, 2019, 03:17:11 PM »
azula being a cunt is justified given that she's a villain

what makes her a lame character is her tendency to be sue-ish
How is she sue-ish at all when her character's goal, not the way she's written, is perfection? She's not perfect whatsoever, and that's fucking foreshadowed in the first episode she appears in:


("One hair out of place...")

As Jono mentioned, she's terribly lacking in all social skills (look at Zuko Alone for perfect example of how she uses fear, not genuine social maneuvering, to keep friends - Azula attempts a cartwheel and fails, Ty Lee attempts one and does an amazing one with a flourish at the end, Azula pushes her down and laughs), and lacks a basic grasp of how love, empathy, and paternal affection operate.

If you think she's perfect in any way, you severely missed the point of the writing of the character, and it makes me worry about how many other basic points in the show you also failed to grasp, out of laziness or pure lack of literary skill.

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yikes

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The Flood / Re: I had a fucking adventure today -- Part II
« on: April 21, 2019, 02:47:29 PM »
UPDATE: I assumed my  computer dead  but miraculously it survived! I plugged it in and it started! However, the display didn't work. Just pure black on the screen. I took off the back plastic panel with a tiny flathead screwdriver my mom was able to find. Wrong screwdriver, but it worked. As soon as the bottom casing removed, a little bit of sand fell out, and the rest of the interior was just as sandy. I spent the next fifteen or so minutes blowing everywhere, very hard, in an attempt to make my computer sand-free. I accomplished that, and restored the panel to the computer (I clicked it in, but didn't screw it in). I started it, but again, no display. I was then like oh well.

Several hours later, while searching for the longest controller charger for the PS4 we have in the house, I found an HDMI cable. And that made me remember I have a modern TV and laptop, and just need a monitor. Sure enough, once connected to my laptop, this TV works just as a monitor would. Incredible!

I hope to get a new laptop soon, but for now, this will do.


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lmao isn't that a pic of Jester
no its you
dude you LITERALLY have pictures of Jester saved I'm dying
all I did was use google but I love thats where your mind goes

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velopers were lazy

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The Flood / Re: Happy kick a stoner day
« on: April 20, 2019, 11:07:11 PM »
fuck did I seriously miss 4/20

I mean obviously I smoked, but I didn't feel important for doing it

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The Flood / Re: Who's your favorite Digimon
« on: April 20, 2019, 06:54:27 AM »
aw but i waanted agumon.......

https://youtu.be/lEpSctIqqdg

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 20, 2019, 06:11:08 AM »
I’m about midway through season 2. How come Azula is a massive cunt?
mate I will wreck you

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lmao isn't that a pic of Jester
no its you

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My name is Michael Scott and, despite having no personality or wit of my own, I'm making a thread about faulty site mechanics in a desperate bid to stay relevant!


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