was upset that my bag was gone and then realized my bowl had a bunch of resin

itt discuss how you find value in things other people overlook

the food industry is the worst

SecondClass is my favorite real life meme

lol what

Quote from: Vien on June 13, 2016, 11:59:03 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaa

omfg

this is so old

my father will hear about this

ITT: People complaining that the sequel to Babies First Strategy will be even more of a failure than the first one was.

The most valid complaint about the game is that it exists.

Halo Wars was super fun because I suck at RTS

I played Tiberian Sun all the time when I was a kid on Windows 98, but had to do it at like the lowest difficulty

Uh.

1.5

Her face looks like a demon

all the better

wait do they give MC like, goals and ambitions post-H3?

the whole point of his character is that he's a super soldier who's blindly loyal to the UNSC

You have my attention.

the only bad thing is that I have to wait like a month until it releases

when I first saw the release date, I thought it said June 15 and got so excited

I think it's better that a guy makes a drug in a world where there is a bunch of crap going on, to capitalize on their troubles. It makes him dirt.

Yeah, that's somewhat scummy, but it's still his own original creation; he can do what he wants with it. It makes it infinitely better that it was never even his to begin with, and he's profiting off of something that he knows he didn't even create. Makes his hubris around it that much more interesting, as well.

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Yep, after making a huge walk from Lost Hills to The Pitt to DC, seeing countless horrors along the way and dying wastelanders who he had to ignore out of some old book, it's completely unreasonable for Elder Lyons to try to be more compassionate and helpful to the residents of the East Coast when he eventually settled there. It's completely unreasonable for the diehard BoS members to hate him for that, and break off to remain true to the actual BoS. Totally doesn't have any story value or interesting concept behind it. It would be TOTALLY better for Lyons to be another faceless, generic BoS operative who's diehard to the Codex and doesn't change a thing about their organization, and for that facelessness to carry into the F4 BoS.

The horrors of dynamic storytelling, where experiences change people, and they have to deal with the repercussions of that change.

My argument is that they don't capitalize on that story at all. They talk about it a bit in The Pitt DLC I believe, and that's it. My issue too is that they don't like Ghouls, yet they do nothing to show it. My issue is that they have this faction that split off and they have an uneasy cold/civil war, yet nothing goes on about it.

They completely shove down your throat that the DC BoS are the good guys, and you have to be with them whether you like it or not. There is nothing dynamic about the, and goes entirely against what the BoS should be. Even if they SHOULD be good guys, they should expose some of the flaws they have, rather than just give one line to them and that be that.

Well, I obviously agree there. Fallout 3 is a terrible game. Earlier you were going on about how the move itself to make the EC BoS "so wildly different" was bad in and of itself. That's where I took issue, because lore-wise, the idea that Lyons would try to change things is completely in line with his character, and is far from an unnecessary change. If they changed nothing, and the EC BoS was a clone of the main branch, then a shitty story would just be even shittier.

Not to mention that the game does point out on several occasions how terrible it is that Lyons is doing this, and how the BoS is stretched far too thin to deal with Super Mutants, lock down an area, and help wastelanders all at the same time. Should it have been expanded upon more? Of course. But the move and idea itself was perfectly fine.

I have to disagree with this if it's randomized. Unless it's specifically there for a story purpose, or actually placed there purposely without the random loot being into play, then yes I would agree.

Whether or not its randomized has no bearing at all. You can say "says you?", but you have the same exact proof to back up your theory that I do.

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Except the BoS in F4 was a blend of their original goals and Lyons' influence, as seen by the fact that they recruit wastelanders and have a tolerance for sane ghouls. EC BoS has never returned to the exclusion and bigotry that the WC BoS had.

Actually not every chapter of the BoS on the West Coast was isolated like that, considering you can join them in Fallout 1 (and Tactics).

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Become_an_initiate

Yeah, you can join the BoS. Not any wastelander can join, and any wastelander who tries to join is sent on the literal suicide mission to go to Dayglow. The BoS knows and expects no one to return from there, the "initiation mission" is a joke to them. When you actually return, they're fucking baffled, and are kind of obligated to let you join. That's a far cry from F4, when they actually try to actively recruit wastelanders, and it's an easy task to join, if you have the skill.

My main gripe with all of this, like one of you said in the other thread, is how they portray them in Fallout 3. As in, the writing was so bad they fail to take advantage of any of it. I guess I'm walking back when I say that, but other posts made me more or less realize some of the things they did lore wise with them weren't bad. Just how they executed it. I like the concept of the split in FO3, don't get me wrong. I like that one Elder has a sense of humanity, and other hard liners don't so they split. And like it was said (and something I never considered), it'd have been MUCH better if the Outcast replaced the Enclave in Fallout 3. I feel like there was so much potential for that civil war, and a mixture of humanity and some lingering hard liners, but it was squandered by somehow shoehorning the Enclave there instead, and forcing you to go with the BoS (if you want to complete the story properly at least).

I agree with all of this.

It wouldn't make sense for the Mordinos to spend so much money on slaves for testing Jet, or go to the trouble of testing on slaves in the first place if Jet already existed.

Because it was forgotten about on the west coast. Myron reverse engineered it, lied and said he created it, which is why the Mordinos gave him shelter and did everything they did. In the mind of the Mordinos, Myron did create it.

It was far from unnecessary to make jet pre-war, considering a creation of a single drug manufacturer could never have spread all the way to the other side of the country in 35 years.

Something else I hate about Bethesda's Fallout (more of a problem in Fallout 4) is how they've given pre-war robots (Mr Handies in particular) completely human-like AI personalities. It's like Bethesda forgot that one of the main differences between this universe and ours is that the transistor wasn't invented until a few years before the war, and even then it was rarely used, so having such advanced personalities in these robots shouldn't be a thing. Especially when you have the ZAX computers which were built to have artificial intelligence and had to be absolutely huge to accomplish the task.

For real, it totally dilutes the whole idea of synths when AI is apparently abundant now in the Fallout world. Even worse that robots can be "transplanted" into synth bodies. Ugh.

Quote from: Jive Turkey on June 13, 2016, 08:26:27 PM

Nothing wrong with it at all. You made no obligation to be in a relationship with her

Quote from: PSU on June 13, 2016, 09:07:42 PM

Not fucked up at all.

But wouldn't that fuck with her emotionally?

Nah man, she's a girl, who gives a shit? As long as youre getting your dick wet then youre doing what youre supposed to be doing. Fuck other people lmao

fuaarrk

Quote from: SecondClass on June 13, 2016, 08:29:38 PM

Quote from: Jive Turkey on June 13, 2016, 08:26:27 PM

Nothing wrong with it at all. You made no obligation to be in a relationship with her

Stay out of serious

if she wants a relationship with him and he's making it seem like he does too just to get off, then that's deception

he has no obligation to be in a relationship with her, just like he has no obligation to coerce her into giving him a blowjob

Yeah but she'll give him the blowjob anyway cause women are desperate for companionship

oh my god kys

and this somehow shifted to stepping on faces

you say that like it's a bad thing