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1021
yeah shocker, people use HRT just to look more feminine and prettier, not to actually feel like a woman! Shouldn't have come as a shock to me. I was having hope but nah - society just cares about looks. That's all there is, that's just how the story goes. You need to look good or else you're trash and even HRT itself thinks thats the only reason why you want on it. Great.

1022
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
LOL. If you think your life is bad you are just a spoiled person lol. I'm not fucking flattering you, I'm pointing out that you have it all yet still lord over us. Like yeah, I get it. You're amazing. Great stuff buddy!

1023
ok

make up your mind

1024
you sound jealous
Oh I'm incredibly jealous. I'm jealous and yet it's well deserved karma for what I did to her. I'm in no position to complain - yet I'm complaining. That makes me even worse. Sol has everything, and she's an amazing person. Really lost my chance there, as I do with absolutely everything.

1025
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
I dont really know what I feel like tho.  Unable to be a girl, unfit to be a guy
pretty much this

cis girls won, we lost - end of story

cool people like sol and cheat won too I guess, and all those zoomer early transitioners

not people like us

nigga im still cute and have a chance, dont drag me down
true - my mistake and my bad

just a projection thing, you're good dw

1026
frankly i don't know why anyone cares about their gender to begin with
As someone who's already content with their gender, is a man, and has tons of hatred for others in his heart, I wouldn't know why either

1027
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
I dont really know what I feel like tho.  Unable to be a girl, unfit to be a guy
pretty much this

cis girls won, we lost - end of story

cool people like sol and cheat won too I guess, and all those zoomer early transitioners

not people like us

1028
and when she has people offering him 5k to have sex with her

why the fuck do you still come to this hellhole, you perfect person?

1029
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
The point of this thread was that people only take you seriously as a trans person if you're on HRT

and lol ok dude - I was still a man before HRT with a male brain, and male chemicals and male chromosomes. Gender Dysphoria isnt feeling like a girl lol, it's feeling like you don't want to be a man. It doesn't magically make you a girl because you want to not be a man. HRT is supposed to be the changer, but now according to you and cheat and your bastions of knowledge on the subject all HRT does is make you look different, which I couldn't care less about

1030
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

1031
Hold the fucking phone


Spoiler
Hold the fucking phone


Spoiler
funny, but not the same person
Hold the fucking phone


Spoiler
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Don't get it, at all. Please explain the joke? Am I being compared to someone bad? Like ok

1032
The Flood / Such an amazing song to end it on
« on: May 11, 2019, 12:10:32 PM »
YouTube


"How It Ends" is so fucking apt,and I just have to post the lyrics.

Hold your grandmother's bible to your breast
Gonna put it to the test
You wanted to be blessed

And in your heart you know it to be true
You know what you gotta do
They all depend on you

And you already know
Yeah, you already know how this will end

There is no escape from the slave catcher's songs
For all of the loved ones gone
Forever's not so long

And in your soul they poked a million holes
But you never let em show
Come on, it's time to go

And you already know
Yeah, you already know how this will end

Now you've seen his face
And you know that there's a place in the sun
For all that you've done
For you and your children

No longer shall you need
You always wanted to believe
Just ask and you'll receive
Beyond your wildest dreams

And you already know
Yeah, you already know how this will end.


Yeah, I love this song. It's heartbreaking and contentful at the same time. Sometimes I feel like I'm not strong enough, and I've already done so many bad things anyway

1033
The Flood / Re: nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 12:01:09 PM »
sol's server (and life) massively outclasses mine, please delete/lock that thread cheat

and yeah cheat + sol were right; hrt is doing nothing for me it's a placebo or just the dxm I was wrong

cant win them all w/e

WTF. HRT works. It’s just way more of a physical change than an emotional one. Yeah, I did feel calmer / more sane after several months, but it was minor. The bigger changes are to your skin and breasts (and fat in general). Chill the fuck out.
ah so its useless then

I dont care about appearances whatsoever

cool

did you literally think it would give you a different personality
it did make me feel calmer but that's just a lie my brain made up

not a different personality no, just calmer

you dont care about me lol, please dont pretend

1034
The Flood / Re: nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:47:52 AM »
sol's server (and life) massively outclasses mine, please delete/lock that thread cheat

and yeah cheat + sol were right; hrt is doing nothing for me it's a placebo or just the dxm I was wrong

cant win them all w/e

WTF. HRT works. It’s just way more of a physical change than an emotional one. Yeah, I did feel calmer / more sane after several months, but it was minor. The bigger changes are to your skin and breasts (and fat in general). Chill the fuck out.
ah so its useless then

I dont care about appearances whatsoever

cool

1035
The Flood / Re: nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:03:37 AM »
YouTube


love this song

1036
The Flood / nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:01:50 AM »
sol's server (and life) massively outclasses mine, please delete/lock that thread cheat

and yeah cheat + sol were right; hrt is doing nothing for me it's a placebo or just the dxm I was wrong

cant win them all w/e

1037
The Flood / Re: No guys, join my server instead.
« on: May 11, 2019, 10:19:27 AM »
Ah damn now I have to be jealous of you hahaha

very cool move you shouldve done this sooner

1038
The Flood / Re: Join my new server! We host fun events!
« on: May 11, 2019, 10:04:51 AM »
i need to find a place where excess negativity IS welcome
lol I'm just kidding verb please join I need members you're the exception here

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The Flood / Join my new server! We host fun events!
« on: May 11, 2019, 09:57:13 AM »
We are the innest server out there -  we're small but who doesn't want to chat with traps, media connoisseurs, and musicians?
Excess negativity isn't welcome.




1041
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
hmm maybe you're right, but all bodies are different - people on reddit say dissimilar things and I legit have not been as angry. And as of today, it's been 5 days.

1042
TELL ME I'M PRETTY


1043
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.

1044
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
When you use this word, you're just assigning an irrelevant label to another word. So you're saying I'll never be the label of a girl. I'll never be the literal label sticker on her shirt, no - but I'll feel like one, act as one, and be treated like one. Of course we can't have all the advantages cis girls have, but we can still forget the biological aspect and just see each other as a mind not a body. People are so vain and I think the shame of not passing deals with the loss of your dignity, but it's all just pure luck whether you pass or not. But that's the thing. All of that comes from society, not from biology. You feel and know you're a girl from the simple fact that your entire viewbox has shifted. Not so angry, or quick to get aggravated. I feel more alert, yet calmer.

The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.

1046
When I saw the previews before Endgame started, this was the trailer that got literally no reaction from the audience compared to the other ones.
lmao this post is fucking iconic

1047
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.

1048
complete and utter nightmare
WHY VERB

explain please

why is this so bad

I like nice things and this looks nice

1049


YouTube


I think he's going to absolutely nail it.

1050
Well tbh you'll never be a girl
That's your opinion, which I completely reject.

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