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9871
« on: April 04, 2017, 04:20:03 PM »
Knack
unfortunately for flee, an esteemed chef-d'oeuvre like that would NEVER find itself on such an undignified gaming platform
9872
« on: April 04, 2017, 04:13:45 PM »
Another way to look at it is this--We're the judges, and they're the contestants. We're the professors, and they're the students.
We evaluate their art the same way a teacher grades a test. If a game like Nier on PC experiences some bad frame rate issues that require external software to fix, then that's a mark against the game.
What you don't do is fix their error for them and say "all better." No--if a game doesn't work right, and it needs mods to be fixed, you don't just let that slide. That's not what a judge does, because not only is that bad for the game; it also sets a bad precedent for the industry. They can release all the broken, unfinished games they want, because they know they have a community of shitheads and sycophants who will fix ALL their mistakes for them.
That's terrible, and that's what you support if you like mods.
9873
« on: April 04, 2017, 04:08:41 PM »
I think my main question here is: Why do you consider the developer to know best? Why are they on a pedestal?
It's not that they "know best"--it's just that, as the artist, they have full control over their own art, no matter how stupid anyone else thinks it is. Because it's their art, and I don't have the right to alter it, even if it's just for personal use. When I play games, I want to experience their vision, even if it's something I know I won't like--because that's just part of it. I already know what I like, and I don't play video games just to jerk myself off. I want to have a new experience. I want someone to broaden my interests. And if the game sucks and is a piece of shit, then that's what it is. I want that, because now I have a greater appreciation for the games I do enjoy. None of that can happen if I'm just like, "Yeah, I don't really like this aspect, so I'm gonna change it." And who the fuck am I to do that, anyway?
9874
« on: April 04, 2017, 03:29:29 PM »
Yeah. Director's cuts exist. Not comparable to mods in any way. Fan cuts can literally fix fundamentally broken, garbage movies. If it's fundamentally broken, then it can't be fixed. If it needs to be fixed, feel free to fix it, but realize that you're just pissing around with other people's hard work, and whatever shitty ideas you have to improve their art appeal only to you. You're anti-art. Verb. Anti-art, pro-IP.
If my opinion is anti-art, then okay, fuck art. It's not, though--I appreciate art more than you ever could. You want art to be for you--I want it to be for everybody. He feels he's being more pro art than any of us.
I am.
9875
« on: April 04, 2017, 01:35:20 PM »
 next goal: sub 90
9876
« on: April 04, 2017, 08:43:06 AM »
what would you guys say were the most attractive race in males
like what flavor would you go for if you was gay or a chick
What's your angle
just wondering if people had different opinions in best looking race when looking at males
what else could i have meant
i think he's asking you what YOU think
9877
« on: April 04, 2017, 06:45:10 AM »
They already do that. I've got some VHS copies where the Original Star Wars trilogy got some CGI makeovers (e.g. Adding Hutt to a few scenes). Not a mod because George Lucas himself wanted those added in for the special edition. That's more like a patch.
9878
« on: April 04, 2017, 12:34:45 AM »
Walt Disney adapted classic fairy tales and made them the way he wanted, I don't see why I shouldn't do the same with games. because you're not, in any way whatsoever you're not walt disney We just want things to be, in our perception, perfect.
That's all there is in life.
perfection by your own perception is not perfection
9879
« on: April 04, 2017, 12:13:02 AM »
If you're saying what I think you're saying, yes?
I wouldn't splice Thomas the Tank Engine into a movie (besides Fight Club), and I wouldn't just throw him into a game either. I like everything to look uniform; if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't.
i'm saying i don't find your outlook completely objectionable, because it's something i see happening in the near future anyway--there's such a huge demand for an unaltered SW re-release, so it seems pretty inevitable what you'd personally do is what you'd probably get anyway if you just waited a few more years, and i can sort of accept that i guess as for this statement, though--"if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't"--i think that's an interesting thing to say, because i agree at face value, but people are, of course, going to have different opinions on what "looks like it belongs" means personally, as you know, i don't think anyone is of the authority to judge whether anything in a piece of art "belongs" except for the artist himself--and that's why i tend to scoff at the idea of "lore-friendly mods" and claim there's no such thing, because who the fuck are you to say whether something is lore-friendly or not--are you the writer? the director? etc. etc. yet other people would still argue otherwise also, touch fight club and i'll mod p5 to be delayed to winter 2018
9880
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:57:52 PM »
Right, but film quality is dependent on the optics used and the film-grain. Many films shot before the digital revolution are very high resolution, typically higher than digital. You just wouldn't have been able to tell by watching a VHS copy because it wouldn't have to been able to fit on a cassette with cheap magnetic tape. It's like if you bought a game that had four discs, but you had the option to play a lower fidelity version on one disc.
i see so what you're doing is really no different than what's basically already being done with other films, only with pre-SE star wars
9881
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:43:00 PM »
i personally don't care because it's not like their personal modifications will affect my copy
i will never understand this mentality
People like things to be tailored to them.
Modding exists for the same reason we wear clothes that fit.
that doesn't seem healthy to me
Neither does eating the diet we evolved to eat, so I can see why you wouldn't understand wearing fitting clothes.
No, I just don't understand why everything must be tailored to you people
9882
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:42:23 PM »
There's still film grain. They were captured on film, and film has an insane resolution (because not digital). VHS/Betamax/Laserdisc, however, don't have a great resolution. The transformation was to try and retain quality while stretching the tapes out to 1080p. I'd argue that it makes it closer to the theatrical release than the home release in terms of fidelity, but that's just an arguing point and not a legitimate consideration. that would be difficult to argue, given that HD resolutions weren't around in the 70s
9883
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:17:09 PM »
Yeah. When I watch the Original Trilogy, I typically watch the Despecialized Editions. Not only are scenes cut/changed to better align it to the theatrical versions, but the team painstakingly transforming the VHS/Betamax/Laserdisc film to hi-definition video and making sure scene colors/transitions were consistent.
Those are typically the only kind of mods I download, anyway: increasing texture quality and restoring cut content.
in the case of film, i always like it when a movie captures the era it was created in film grain is one of those inseparable elements--removing it would only make other imperfections all the more visible i can sort of get behind adding cut content, but things tend to be cut for good reasons (unless it's executive meddling)
9884
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:10:32 PM »
i personally don't care because it's not like their personal modifications will affect my copy
i will never understand this mentality
People like things to be tailored to them.
Modding exists for the same reason we wear clothes that fit.
that doesn't seem healthy to me
9885
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:07:31 PM »
i'd like to extend this to games as well if you don't mind.
it doesn't really matter if he recorded everything over again with his own instruments and voice -- the musical bones remain (mostly) unchanged. I would argue these bones are no different than taking the world that Skyrim was built on and creating new storylines and quests from the ground up in a similar fashion. in fact, i would argue that is more artistically valid than a song cover. i use skyrim because it is the one game i know of that has fantastic mod support. i really don't like that analogy, but then again, we're talking about and comparing two wildly different mediums the "bones" of a song are really only comparable to a game's engine, in my mind this is why i don't care about games like counterstrike, even though the entire game is a mod obviously there are stupid mods out there that don't service the original intent of the artist or further another artist's ideal (such as nude mods for Street Fighter) but something like reediting the original releases or star wars could surely be seen as a fine modification. project m as well.
No
9886
« on: April 03, 2017, 10:20:41 PM »
how are mods any different from a song cover? is trent reznor spitting in the face of ian curtist when he records dead souls? is he metaphorically claiming that he's better than ian curtis, or is he just paying homage to an artist he admires by adding his own spin.
not really what i had in mind a better comparison would be if trent recorded his vocals over the instrumental of the original song--that would be bad--but even then, that's a stretch, because that's basically just karaoke the best example of what i'm talking about here is if trent took the original song and just sprinkled a few MLG airhorn noises haphazardly throughout the track--that would be analagous to a "mod" but no, it's that the entire song was rebuilt from the ground up with his flavoring that makes it his own work, so it's acceptable
9887
« on: April 03, 2017, 10:16:19 PM »
Oh hell yeah, I'd mod tron using updated graphics, I'd fix scenes in X3, make characters die at more meaningful times.
If I could fix all the things I don't like about the stories I love, I would.
then do you really love the story?
yes
Just like I love my family, even though there are things I don't like about them.
And if I didn't want to change anything about them, then I wouldn't spend so much time talking to them and trying to change their minds. If I could just do it, like making a mod, it would be a load off of me emotionally.
we disagree on what love means i also don't categorize love for art with love for family
9888
« on: April 03, 2017, 10:07:20 PM »
I've never really been into mods for my games, so I don't have much of an opinion on that. However, modifying movies/shows is something while I wont say you can't do, I will say you shouldn't. Ultimately what one person does with their copy is their business, so long as they realize they're admitting what they're doing is only a benefit to themselves.
There's a regular on /a/ who has taken it upon himself to redo the entire NGE series that was released on Blu-ray several years ago. Normally this wouldn't bother me; if some asshole wants to destroy his $300 copy he's more than welcome to. However he then releases it to the public claiming it's the "Definitive" version that fixes the "color mistakes made during the remaster process".
Here is one individual going over the original creators process of remastering NGE for Blu-ray:
I find it insulting how some dipshit who literally played around with the coloring on his copy during his free time claims that the 40+ hours an episode that was worked on just color was a mistake. It's a huge middle finger to the creators who really busted their ass to release a twenty year old title on Blu-ray for the first time for their fans, just to have some guy metaphorically spit in their face and say he can do it better.
see, this is exactly how i feel, but i just apply the same principle to games as well the more i think about it, the more difficult it is for me to understand why nobody else feels the same way so i was sitting down and this analogy came to mind--people get offended as fuck when people screw around with their favorite movies, yet screwing around with games is not only acceptable, but encouraged by literally everybody as an appreciator of all forms of art, and someone who believes that it should all remain untouched, this phenomenon is bizarre to me
9889
« on: April 03, 2017, 10:03:21 PM »
Oh hell yeah, I'd mod tron using updated graphics, I'd fix scenes in X3, make characters die at more meaningful times.
If I could fix all the things I don't like about the stories I love, I would.
then do you really love the story?
9890
« on: April 03, 2017, 09:58:25 PM »
Fight Club but the script is written by Todd Howard and George Lucas
that's not really how i imagined it working the mods would be made from scratch, just like they are for games so unless you had access to todd howard or george lucas, this couldn't happen
9891
« on: April 03, 2017, 09:51:51 PM »
i personally don't care because it's not like their personal modifications will affect my copy
i will never understand this mentality
9892
« on: April 03, 2017, 09:40:19 PM »
how would you feel about that
would you do it
9893
« on: April 03, 2017, 09:11:40 PM »
it's also a bummer if you expect games to function properly out the box before installing any external third party software
9894
« on: April 03, 2017, 08:36:00 PM »
wow haha no one has ever done that before, you're the first one
9895
« on: April 03, 2017, 08:09:39 PM »
Shoutout to modders for fixing games god damn
gg, now you'll perceive the game as that much better than it probably deserves 👌
9896
« on: April 03, 2017, 07:07:24 PM »
well just wait till you play it, that's all i'm saying
9897
« on: April 03, 2017, 04:31:06 PM »
why isn't there an industry for actual unscripted wrestling
9898
« on: April 03, 2017, 04:05:28 PM »
hahaha lol everybody is saying this game is the most amazing experience in their entire life
none of them have played zelda yet
9899
« on: April 03, 2017, 01:47:13 PM »
That Quiet stuff was so bullshit too
Like I still don't get it
SHE BREATHES THROUGH HER SKIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
thats DUMB
Nuh uh, it makes total sense. She was infected with a fungus and she's basically half plant because of the chemical burns she suffered at the hands of venom snake. You're dumbed
"it has an explanation" =/= "it's smart and should be in the game"
9900
« on: April 03, 2017, 01:33:21 PM »
Nobody but schools and hospitals would ever consider this idea.
Yeah schools is the only thing I was thinking of
I remember when my school removed the unhealthy food from vending machines entirely. literally no one used it after that, even the staff.
i would
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