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9241
« on: April 28, 2017, 03:39:57 PM »
Even Dietrich gets it.
even dietrich gets it
9242
« on: April 28, 2017, 03:17:36 PM »
I don't give a fuck your opinion is shit and you're a dumbass No it wasn't yep I don't care about what you prefer. If you prefer it on console, cool. Just realize it's better on PC.
if it were better, then i would immediately recognize that with no argument but i don't think it's better, therefore it can't be it's subjective
9243
« on: April 28, 2017, 03:06:13 PM »
Keep pulling nigger moves somebody's gonna check you for that one day. well i'm sorry, but what you're arguing right now is just a REALLY stupid thing to think i have no respect for your mindset whatsoever, it's just dumb and anti-art Art was never the subject. yes it was Fact.
opinion show me screenshots of both versions and i'll explain to you precisely why i'll prefer the console version
9244
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:53:14 PM »
The title of your thread was disrespectful. maybe stop being a sensitive little bitch, i'll change it to something even worse if you want me to No it doesn't. It's just a way for you to try and weasel or of admitting the truth. just like what you're doing here is just a way for you to try and weasel out of admitting the truth why do you hate art so much Really? Nier and several other games look better on PC. Fact.
Opinion
9245
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:44:59 PM »
Actually it's you. You had no purpose on your mind other than trying to "one up" me. Look at the title of the thread and how disrespectful you were the entire "conversation". http://sep7agon.net/gaming/specs-don't-matter-you-silly-bitch-lmao/msg1420303/#msg1420303you drew first blood not me i didn't say anything disrespectful until maybe page 3 or 4, and you were belligerent the entire time Bringing up random obscure examples as if that somehow changes the fact that new hardware isn't good. It does. This all started because I said Nier looks better on PC as opposed to consoles. It does. So do a lot of other games, because a state of the art graphics card on a PC is going to result in a better looking game. That's facts.
You haven't stated a single fact. Just opinions.
9246
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:35:10 PM »
Your comparison doesn't make sense tho, that film was made specifically for that format. Format and hardware are two different things, you can have the same old school format played using newer technology that doesn't skip or fuck up as much.
It's not like playing OoT on an emulator that's locked at 30fps with no graphical upgrades is any different than playing it on the 64, barring better load times and less errors.
The point I was making is that weirder artistic decisions have been made. I could make a game and say, "I intend for this game to be played using a shitty graphics card." And if you play using a better graphics card than I had in mind, you're playing the game incorrectly.
OoT runs at 20fps, by the way, and emulating it is completely different than playing it on the N64. It's night and day. I want the imperfections. I want the fuck-ups. They add a touch of humanity to the experience.
This is hilarious. I mean I should've expected this from somebody whose solution to problems is just extinction. Simple minded.
You're easily the simple-minded one here. "BIG NUMBER ALWAYS GOOD"
9247
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:27:54 PM »
Your comparison doesn't make sense tho, that film was made specifically for that format. Format and hardware are two different things, you can have the same old school format played using newer technology that doesn't skip or fuck up as much.
It's not like playing OoT on an emulator that's locked at 30fps with no graphical upgrades is any different than playing it on the 64, barring better load times and less errors.
The point I was making is that weirder artistic decisions have been made. I could make a game and say, "I intend for this game to be played using a shitty graphics card." And if you play using a better graphics card than I had in mind, you're playing the game incorrectly. OoT runs at 20fps, by the way, and emulating it is completely different than playing it on the N64. It's night and day. I want the imperfections. I want the fuck-ups. They add a touch of humanity to the experience.
9248
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:18:09 PM »
Preserving an old style is not the same as playing a game that's all janked up. That would be like playing a movie on vhs and it eating the tape every thirty seconds so that you have to respool and play again.
But using a less powerful graphics card is not that much of an inconvenience. Weirder artistic decisions have been made. There's a movie called Mommy that's shot in 1:1, rather than the standard 1.85:1. It does this for reasons I can't explain without spoiling the movie, but it's a really weird aspect ratio to use, because it's a perfect square. It doesn't hinder the experience at all, despite not being the ideal for other films.
9249
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:03:41 PM »
It'll run better and have less issues
Maybe I don't want it to run better or have less issues for some reason.
Wut
For certain single player games, I can easily see the experience being enhanced in some obscure way if the game ran shittier. I could also make a game that intends to run shitty for some artistic purpose. Once again, filmmakers do this all the time. Star Wars: The Force Awakens was shot in 35mm rather than IMAX specifically to match the visual aesthetic of the original trilogy. If I'm watching old Super 8 films I made when I was a kid, I'm watching it on a shitty VHS player with a CRT. I wouldn't ever convert the footage to a superior format, because I want to be sent back to a simpler time when such things didn't exist. This is not complicated.
9250
« on: April 28, 2017, 01:35:07 PM »
It'll run better and have less issues
Maybe I don't want it to run better or have less issues for some reason. And no, you really do suck at communicating anything.
9251
« on: April 28, 2017, 01:16:36 PM »
9252
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:43:33 PM »
Sometimes, a 970 is better than a 1070. It doesn't matter if it costs more.
Really? How?
Depending on the project, you might want to use something underpowered for the sake of authenticity. You could have a game set in a certain time period where a 1070 didn't exist, so to reflect that, an artist may choose a 970 instead.
Auteur filmmakers do this sort of thing ALL the time.
for a film where youre picking a camera or the kind of film stock you want to use, sure, even modern varieties of cameras these days have different characteristics where one would pick one over another but in 3d applications such as games where the same code can perform differently if you played through the same bit 50 times, nobody would be able to tell if something was running on a 8600gt or intel HD5000 integrated graphics, likewise nobody would be able to tell if something was running on a 970 or 1070 or rx380 or SLI 760s if it was any game over 2-3 years old - the game is the code and developers will strive to achieve maximum performance for the smoothest experience in their software, they won't make that choice, at most they'll need the parts if they want to fix any bugs associated with that particular piece of hardware
otherwise there is no analogue differences or quirks this hardware would have that would see any difference whatsoever for the sake of "authenticity" of hardware in this case, because the next card is literally almost always a linearly better, more performant version of it's predecessor, as opposed to even digital cameras where some sensors handle the image processing differently or have specific lenses only available for that model. an easy way to put it is that any newere GPU counterpart to its predecessor is always an upgrade, whereas filmmaking equipment that has a lot of characteristics that could affect the picture are sidegrades; a GPU has none of these
in any case, im pretty sure there is no development studio in the world that would pick worse hardware over better hardware if given the choice, it raises the ceiling of power they can use for software development, and if they truly wanted to make their game run worse, they could easily just write shitty code, or just put an fps cap option in their game that lets you type any number you want
You explained that better than challenger ever could.
9253
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:03:34 PM »
actually crt has lower input response times than any modern TV
thats why some quake players still prefer crt monitors
headshot
9254
« on: April 28, 2017, 11:44:39 AM »
On top of that, it's unreasonable to assume that every old game in existence is going to get an HD remake. It's not happening.
That means that CRTs are always going to be the better option for those games.
9255
« on: April 28, 2017, 11:37:28 AM »
That's because the game was made with inferior technology. If it was remade in HD it'd be gravy.
Unfortunately HD remakes are ruined because they change the art style for some reason every time. If they didn't, and just formatted it to play on modern shit, that's it. It'd be better.
in this specific case, it would streamline the process of getting into the game, so yeah, it would be better in this case
not in all cases though :^)
in every case because new technology is better than old technology <|;^)
except if you used an HD TV for older games you'd get loads of input lag as i just described ^w^
that's why they remake games in HD :3
but they aren't always available, so for the time being, old technology remains the better option O.o
that has nothing to with an HD remake being better when it's done right >.>
but it can't be better if it doesn't even exist .-.
9256
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:46:54 AM »
 still doesn't explain my ps4's lightning fast download speeds
9257
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:37:44 AM »
That's because the game was made with inferior technology. If it was remade in HD it'd be gravy.
Unfortunately HD remakes are ruined because they change the art style for some reason every time. If they didn't, and just formatted it to play on modern shit, that's it. It'd be better.
in this specific case, it would streamline the process of getting into the game, so yeah, it would be better in this case
not in all cases though :^)
in every case because new technology is better than old technology <|;^)
except if you used an HD TV for older games you'd get loads of input lag as i just described ^w^
that's why they remake games in HD :3
but they aren't always available, so for the time being, old technology remains the better option O.o
9258
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:33:47 AM »
That's because the game was made with inferior technology. If it was remade in HD it'd be gravy.
Unfortunately HD remakes are ruined because they change the art style for some reason every time. If they didn't, and just formatted it to play on modern shit, that's it. It'd be better.
in this specific case, it would streamline the process of getting into the game, so yeah, it would be better in this case
not in all cases though :^)
in every case because new technology is better than old technology <|;^)
except if you used an HD TV for older games you'd get loads of input lag as i just described ^w^
9259
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:16:43 AM »
That's because the game was made with inferior technology. If it was remade in HD it'd be gravy.
Unfortunately HD remakes are ruined because they change the art style for some reason every time. If they didn't, and just formatted it to play on modern shit, that's it. It'd be better.
in this specific case, it would streamline the process of getting into the game, so yeah, it would be better in this case not in all cases though :^)
9260
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:10:19 AM »
You can try to come up with all sorts of outlandish and obscure examples but that fact remains a 1070 is better than a 970.
You can make a game that looks like shit and play it on a 1070. It'll run better and have less issues, but it'll still look like shit if that's the artistic style.
Or do you enjoy your PC not being able work fast? Do you buy 20 year old computers because it's more authentic to use internet explorer on windows 95?
Super Smash Bros. Melee is one of my favorite games of all time, and one of my life goals is to learn how to play it competitively. Since the game is so old, though, the most optimal way to play it competitively is to use a CRT rather than a newer HD TV. This is because the game wasn't made for HD, and as a result, if you try to play any older game on one, you're going to experience some input lag, among other issues--making the CRT better than the HD TV in these cases. Old technology can be better than new technology.
9261
« on: April 28, 2017, 09:54:54 AM »
Cool
The 1070 is still a better piece of hardware
Not for that project, or any other project where that's not the case. I can think of any number of examples.
9262
« on: April 28, 2017, 09:49:07 AM »
Sometimes, a 970 is better than a 1070. It doesn't matter if it costs more.
Really? How?
Depending on the project, you might want to use something underpowered for the sake of authenticity. You could have a game set in a certain time period where a 1070 didn't exist, so to reflect that, an artist may choose a 970 instead. Auteur filmmakers do this sort of thing ALL the time.
9263
« on: April 28, 2017, 01:03:12 AM »
Verb just quit your shit.
How you came to be such an awful human being I'll never know.
You shit talk people for doing drugs and when they decide to quit you shit on them for that.
You're just a scumbag trying to make everyone else hate themselves as much as you hate yourself.
Lay off and get your own life loser.
when it comes to human beings, the default assumption for me has always been that they'll disappoint you what reason do i have to believe that they won't
9264
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:43:28 AM »
no you're not
I have this thread saved.
It might be scummy to use her in this way but Emily helped
who is that, ender? also, no you're not
9265
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:36:00 AM »
no you're not
9266
« on: April 27, 2017, 09:05:49 PM »
Better hardware is better hardware. Not when it comes to art. Your entire point of view is retarded. There is no "sometimes". A 1070 is better than a 970. Fact. That's why it costs more. Because the people that made it, made it better than the last one. Sometimes, a 970 is better than a 1070. It doesn't matter if it costs more. You're disrespecting them by saying their older inferior product is better than the new one they spent time developing. Except I never said that the older product is better. They're just the same from an artistic standpoint.
9267
« on: April 27, 2017, 06:41:00 PM »
Holy shit motion control puzzles are fucking terrible. Probably the only thing holding this game back tbh.
They're fine.
9269
« on: April 27, 2017, 06:06:51 PM »
I'm not talking about art. I am. You said it, go back a few posts. I read my posts seventy-three times and I never said it. They are, though. These people put their blood, sweat, and tears ito making better graphics cards and you're here insulting their work and being autistic. People put their blood sweat and tears into a lot of shit. Even the shit that you don't care for. That doesn't mean jack fuck. It isn't, though. It's about better hardware.
Nope, it's about art.
9270
« on: April 27, 2017, 04:05:21 PM »
So you admit some cars are works of art. I said that ten posts ago and then I said it three or four times later, you fucking fucking fuck. Old technology can still be used to greater artistic effect than modern technology. Nice opinion. I don't share it.
You don't have to share it. I don't have to share your view that new technology is objectively better than old technology when it comes to art. Yeah they do. Wow you totally convinced me with this post. I do have a problem with you saying a GTX 1070 is worse than a 970. When the fuck did I say that? I never said that it's worse. I said that they're both two options for an artist. Neither of them are better or worse than the other. What an artist chooses to use is a matter of preference. That's what I've been saying the whole time. Art isn't even remotely the subject.
It's been the subject since I made the thread.
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