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The Flood / Re: EEMAJUN MOI SHOG
« on: May 06, 2017, 10:43:41 PM »
behold

YouTube

the only good PJW video

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The Flood / Re: Well FUCK, today I learned
« on: May 06, 2017, 09:56:18 PM »
I dunno why so many people were confused by that dialogue. It was awkward, but I still understood that it was a double meaning, and not just one or the other.

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The Flood / Re: EEMAJUN MOI SHOG
« on: May 06, 2017, 09:22:28 PM »
i don't understand, OP

why are you making fun of yourself

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The Flood / Re: Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was pretty dope
« on: May 06, 2017, 09:15:34 PM »
the protagonist searching for his father, with that reveal being a lazy cliche itself.
I thought the whole point of this franchise was that it's a conglomeration of cliches (homages), kinda like Star Wars was. I saw the reveal coming within seconds of a particular character's debut, but I was still okay with it, because I didn't feel as though it was trying to be subtle in the first place, and I found myself compelled by the mystery of his underlying motivations.

Most character development in any series ever could boil down to them just needing a hug, so I don't think that's a fair criticism either. I also feel like you're underselling the climax a little--it had a bit more than what you described, and for what it offered, I thought it was passable.

It definitely had flaws, but I don't think you really nailed any of them down.

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The Flood / Re: Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was pretty dope
« on: May 06, 2017, 08:44:35 PM »
So, I just saw this movie, and it was surprisingly good. My low expectations going in were thoroughly exceeded, and I'd even say it was a little better than the first (and I liked that one too). The themes of family resonated with me and the humor was top-notch, but there was probably one or two more dick jokes than I would've liked.

Spoiler
Also, this film is proof positive that you can have anti-natalist undertones and still make a fun-ass movie.

:^)

7/10

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The Flood / Re: Class Thread
« on: May 06, 2017, 03:35:38 PM »
Winona Ryder is one of the best actors in cinema
Zeroth*

it's actually a real word

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I would agree, but it would have to be a pretty tall stool for that to be a problem for me.

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The Flood / Re: Bingo
« on: May 06, 2017, 01:57:38 PM »
Defeat is letting depression remain unchecked.

Antidepressants are not all dependency inducing, really the only ones that are haven't been used widely since the 80s/90s. The more recent (relatively speaking) lines of medication are not addictive in the clinical sense, there is always the chance of psychological dependency, but then that is pretty much down to self-belief/willpower rather than the medication being habit forming.

As challenger has said, you can't win a fight with both hands tied behind your back.
Well, addiction isn't what I'm worried about--psychodependency is. I'm like an animal in a cage, and I know that my masters (the drugs) will let me out of the cage, so long as I do some humiliating, dehumanizing trick for them. My mood and emotions are under something else's control. That's how I feel, and I don't know how comfortable I am with that.

I've always been a very indignant person who, if you tell me that I "can't" do something, I'm gonna take that as a challenge. It fuels my desire to prove the statement wrong, since one of my favorite things to do in the world, after being doubted, is to make people eat their words. That's just how I feel.

So I'll show you how to fight with your hands tied. Maybe if I were hog-tied, but I don't feel hog-tied. My depression isn't something that debilitates me in any way. I'm not suicidal. The two worst things about it is that it makes me extremely tired, and it shoots my anxiety through the roof, making social interaction more difficult than it needs to be, but I can still handle it. I don't feel anxious at all on the Internet, and that's where I interact with the most people anyway. I used to lash out at people on a hair-trigger, but I learned to control that.

I just don't see it as a big enough problem to where I need to take such drastic measures as take medication. Maybe for other people, it would be, but again, I just consider myself too strong, mentally, to let it be a major problem.
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If the depression is not just mild/circumstance related, and is more along the lines of MDD/Clinical depression then you will essentially need the medication to turn the tide. When your brain is depressed, as opposed to your way of thinking, the neurochemistry is fucked and quite frankly you can't just think/will yourself back into being happy again.

The medication (depending on the type mind you, they all act through different mechanisms to achieve a similar goal) will make the minor changes over the course of several months to restore* the original balance of NTs in your brain. When that effect is going up instead of down (i.e depression further depleting the NT levels), that is where willpower comes in and you start to beat it.

*Or at least bring it closer to a healthy balance.
By "original balance," I assume you just mean "where they should be." I've come to realize lately that I've always felt the way I do about stuff--it's just become amplified, because all of the fears of adulthood that I had as a child are coming true.

I'd love to be happy, but I just want to be happy on my own terms. I don't want to be happy because I'm supposed to be happy--I want to be happy because I did something great, and I'm still trying to work towards that. I'm not saying it'll "cure" me--again, I don't know how interested I am in a "cure" if it involves artificial happiness. If that's the only happiness I'll ever be able to achieve, then maybe I can live without it.

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The Flood / Re: Bingo
« on: May 06, 2017, 07:04:31 AM »
None of these

Depression is a meme, man up and go do things and meet people. Guarantee 95% of you will feel better and the rest of you need medication.
I refuse to take medication.
motherfucker dont tell me this has to do with you being straight edge
No, it's an ego thing. I just believe I have the mental fortitude to surmount pretty much anything, and I don't want to compromise that for anything. I'm not saying it's rational of me--it's probably the most irrational thing that I believe--but like Epsira said, the thought of being dependent on a drug, instead of my own personal strength and willpower, just KILLS me inside. I won't do it.
If you have a severe chemical imbalance, willpower will only get you so far. Just face it, you need medication.

You can't will clinical depression away any more than you can will cancer away.
The thing is, I view such an action as defeat. Do you think I like losing? Do you think the idea of being dependent on drugs makes me happy? You don't think that would make it worse, because of how I am?

I sure would.
You're hanging from a cliff and the meds are some guy extending his hand to pull you up. You can't pull yourself up because you're physically incapable due to a birth defect. It's not your fault. There's nothing wrong with accepting help.
And if it doesn't work? If I end up in an even worse position?

Once you try a drug, you can't undo that. That mark of failure and defeat is part of your history forever, whether it works out for you or not. Why would I want to live with that?

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Serious / Re: FCC to Investigate Colbert over "Cock Holster" Joke
« on: May 06, 2017, 03:18:18 AM »
I used to find Colbert funny, but since the Colbert Report ended he hasn't been humorous at all.

Trump has universally killed comedy though. Not through actions by the man himself, but because left-leaning comedians and media figures (read: all of them) endlessly lampooning and mocking him. It's not funny or original in any way. It's beating a dead horse until the horse has been virtually disintegrated.
Some dead horses should be disintegrated.

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Sure I can agree with that. But people can do bad things without being bad people.
I don't think they're bad people. I don't even think they're dumb people. I think they're less smart people.

I say worse things about them publically, because I'm just an angry, vitriolic, hateful person like that. You know this.

I like it when people do smart things. It pisses me off when people do dumb things. That's part of my humanity.

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these are some weird mental gymnastics going on in this thread
fuck this stupid-ass fucking term

"anything that's too complicated for my stupid ass is just mental gymnastics"

thank you, i'm glad that my brain is capable of gymnastics

what can your brain do

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What?
I was crystal clear.

If the happiness you achieve from drugs isn't fake, then it's just another negative term that I'll slap on it instead.

It's bad happiness.
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Yeah, the weed is the reason.
That's a bad reason. It has to be a good reason.

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You're kind of at that level right now. Saying somebody is a piece of shit for smoking a joint is wrong.
Why is it wrong to speak the truth?

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The Flood / Re: Bingo
« on: May 05, 2017, 09:45:37 PM »
None of these

Depression is a meme, man up and go do things and meet people. Guarantee 95% of you will feel better and the rest of you need medication.
I refuse to take medication.
motherfucker dont tell me this has to do with you being straight edge
No, it's an ego thing. I just believe I have the mental fortitude to surmount pretty much anything, and I don't want to compromise that for anything. I'm not saying it's rational of me--it's probably the most irrational thing that I believe--but like Epsira said, the thought of being dependent on a drug, instead of my own personal strength and willpower, just KILLS me inside. I won't do it.
If you have a severe chemical imbalance, willpower will only get you so far. Just face it, you need medication.

You can't will clinical depression away any more than you can will cancer away.
The thing is, I view such an action as defeat. Do you think I like losing? Do you think the idea of being dependent on drugs makes me happy? You don't think that would make it worse, because of how I am?

I sure would.

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Apparently not.
Apparently so. There's nothing under the sun that doesn't my shit on it.

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How is that fake? The feeling is real. It's forced, but it's real.
In order for it to be real, it CAN'T be forced.

If I'm wrong, then I'm moving the goalposts. Authentic, real emotion isn't good enough.

You have to be happy for a reason.

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Nobody ever claimed they're productive and good people for using drugs to be happy, but that doesn't mean you go to the other extreme and say a guy who has a beer at night before going to sleep is a FUCKING SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT WHO SHOULD BE SKINNED ALIVE. Chill out my friend.
When's the last time I said anything like that?

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The Flood / Re: Bingo
« on: May 05, 2017, 09:32:27 PM »
None of these

Depression is a meme, man up and go do things and meet people. Guarantee 95% of you will feel better and the rest of you need medication.
I refuse to take medication.
motherfucker dont tell me this has to do with you being straight edge
No, it's an ego thing. I just believe I have the mental fortitude to surmount pretty much anything, and I don't want to compromise that for anything. I'm not saying it's rational of me--it's probably the most irrational thing that I believe--but like Epsira said, the thought of being dependent on a drug, instead of my own personal strength and willpower, just KILLS me inside. I won't do it.

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You seem to have trouble with the drying part. None of this is unnatural. Even if it is, who cares? Things are defined by good and bad. Cancer is natural lmao.
When did I say that natural things are good? All I do is shit on things that are natural.

Since you're illiterate, let me explain one more time: When I say unnatural, I mean artificial.

As in, you're not actually happy. You're artificially happy. You're fake happy.

You didn't do anything to become happy. You didn't accomplish anything. You didn't solve anyone's problems. You didn't solve your own problems. You forced dopamine to be released into your brain, and now you're happy for no logical reason.

That is so fucking beyond stupid, it makes me physically ill just thinking about it.

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I really don't care dude.
I know, you're really cool and edgy and you don't give a fuck because you're so cool and edgy.

I'm just letting you know.

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Is it unnatural to dry oregano and eat that too?
Oregano isn't a mind-altering drug as far as I know.

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I don't use any drugs.
Cool, I still look at you the same way I view a dumb junkie. Because you talk like one. You have the critical capacities of one.

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There's nothing artificial about smoking marijuana. You literally just take the bud, wait for it to dry, and smoke it.
Thank you for describing precisely what makes it unnatural while saying it's not unnatural.

Druggie cunts like you are just completely unreasonable, and you can't read for shit.

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I agree, but there's nothing unnatural about drugs either.
I just told you how it's unnatural.

Actual fun activities make you happy because they're fun and productive and accomplish things.

With drugs, you're happy because you forced it. You're forcing your brain to make you feel good. That's not natural.
Chemical reactions are completely natural.
i dont think he's denying that, his point is that drugs just induce the chemical reactions in an artificial way
yeah

HARD STUFF

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I agree, but there's nothing unnatural about drugs either.
I just told you how it's unnatural.

Actual fun activities make you happy because they're fun and productive and accomplish things.

With drugs, you're happy because you forced it. You're forcing your brain to make you feel good. That's not natural.
Chemical reactions are completely natural.
Thank you for missing my point, you insufferable illiterate cunt.

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I agree, but there's nothing unnatural about drugs either.
I just told you how it's unnatural.

Actual fun activities make you happy because they're fun and productive and accomplish things.

With drugs, you're happy because you forced it. You're forcing your brain to make you feel good. That's not natural.

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No, they're just more trash than they would be if they didn't smoke it.
What makes the person trash for smoking weed?
They're destroying their brain. They're choosing to view reality in an incorrect way.

I don't care that it's temporary. It's fucking retarded.
Couldn't you say the same for any recreational activity? Old folks think we're rotting our brains playing video games. Do you agree with that?
It is possible to play video games excessively, yes.

But by doing drugs, you are literally altering your own brain chemistry.

Playing video games and enjoying them is a completely natural process. You're doing things in the game that give you a sense of accomplishment and make you happy. It's rational. You're not accomplishing anything by doing drugs. At all.

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No, they're just more trash than they would be if they didn't smoke it.
What makes the person trash for smoking weed?
They're destroying their brain. They're choosing to view reality in an incorrect way.

I don't care that it's temporary. It's fucking retarded.

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Man everyone took this thread the wrong way. I never said I look down on people who smoke, or think of them as lesser people. I know people of all wealth brackets who smoke, it's not something only poor people do. That's not even what I said.

all I literally said is that I don't see it as a "clean" thing to do. I don't see it as something better then drinking and shit. Like even if the product, like the one in the vlog, is "high end" it's still not to me. It's weed.

Everyone got mad butt hurt and took it like I was saying only shitty poor people smoke. I never once even remotely came close to that. Class doesn't equal wealth. It's just how I view it.

You smoke? Cool. I don't think your shitty because of it.

Id say a majority of people here smoke so of course everyone got upset when I said anything negative about it

Nothing pretentious about an opinion
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I will always see weed as a lower class/dirty thing. This isn't to say I look down on people who smoke, although it is always strange to see people I think are well to do, or the type that wouldn't smoke, doing it.
Are you trying to point out a contradiction? Because there isn't one.
>lower class
>well to do
He explained that he doesn't believe class equals wealth. If you're "well to do," what business do you have even touching that filth? It's for dirty, stupid, disgusting people, regardless of social standing.
How is weed for dirty stupid disgusting people? It's literally just a plant lmao.
People who do drugs are fucking disgusting.

People who don't understand this simple fact are also disgusting.
You can't be so judgmental dude. It's not right. Somebody could be the most saintly person on earth but just because they smoke a joint they're irredeemable trash.
No, they're just more trash than they would be if they didn't smoke it.

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Man everyone took this thread the wrong way. I never said I look down on people who smoke, or think of them as lesser people. I know people of all wealth brackets who smoke, it's not something only poor people do. That's not even what I said.

all I literally said is that I don't see it as a "clean" thing to do. I don't see it as something better then drinking and shit. Like even if the product, like the one in the vlog, is "high end" it's still not to me. It's weed.

Everyone got mad butt hurt and took it like I was saying only shitty poor people smoke. I never once even remotely came close to that. Class doesn't equal wealth. It's just how I view it.

You smoke? Cool. I don't think your shitty because of it.

Id say a majority of people here smoke so of course everyone got upset when I said anything negative about it

Nothing pretentious about an opinion
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I will always see weed as a lower class/dirty thing. This isn't to say I look down on people who smoke, although it is always strange to see people I think are well to do, or the type that wouldn't smoke, doing it.
Are you trying to point out a contradiction? Because there isn't one.
>lower class
>well to do
He explained that he doesn't believe class equals wealth. If you're "well to do," what business do you have even touching that filth? It's for dirty, stupid, disgusting people, regardless of social standing.
How is weed for dirty stupid disgusting people? It's literally just a plant lmao.
People who do drugs are fucking disgusting.

People who don't understand this simple fact are also disgusting.

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Man everyone took this thread the wrong way. I never said I look down on people who smoke, or think of them as lesser people. I know people of all wealth brackets who smoke, it's not something only poor people do. That's not even what I said.

all I literally said is that I don't see it as a "clean" thing to do. I don't see it as something better then drinking and shit. Like even if the product, like the one in the vlog, is "high end" it's still not to me. It's weed.

Everyone got mad butt hurt and took it like I was saying only shitty poor people smoke. I never once even remotely came close to that. Class doesn't equal wealth. It's just how I view it.

You smoke? Cool. I don't think your shitty because of it.

Id say a majority of people here smoke so of course everyone got upset when I said anything negative about it

Nothing pretentious about an opinion
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I will always see weed as a lower class/dirty thing. This isn't to say I look down on people who smoke, although it is always strange to see people I think are well to do, or the type that wouldn't smoke, doing it.
Are you trying to point out a contradiction? Because there isn't one.
>lower class
>well to do
He explained that he doesn't believe class equals wealth. If you're "well to do," what business do you have even touching that filth? It's for dirty, stupid, disgusting people, regardless of social standing.

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Man everyone took this thread the wrong way. I never said I look down on people who smoke, or think of them as lesser people. I know people of all wealth brackets who smoke, it's not something only poor people do. That's not even what I said.

all I literally said is that I don't see it as a "clean" thing to do. I don't see it as something better then drinking and shit. Like even if the product, like the one in the vlog, is "high end" it's still not to me. It's weed.

Everyone got mad butt hurt and took it like I was saying only shitty poor people smoke. I never once even remotely came close to that. Class doesn't equal wealth. It's just how I view it.

You smoke? Cool. I don't think your shitty because of it.

Id say a majority of people here smoke so of course everyone got upset when I said anything negative about it

Nothing pretentious about an opinion
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I will always see weed as a lower class/dirty thing. This isn't to say I look down on people who smoke, although it is always strange to see people I think are well to do, or the type that wouldn't smoke, doing it.
Are you trying to point out a contradiction? Because there isn't one.

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The Flood / Re: Bingo
« on: May 05, 2017, 06:23:34 PM »
None of these

Depression is a meme, man up and go do things and meet people. Guarantee 95% of you will feel better and the rest of you need medication.
I have done both of these things.

I refuse to take medication.

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The Flood / Re: Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was pretty dope
« on: May 05, 2017, 04:44:57 PM »
My dad wants to see it tomorrow because he adored the first one, so I guess I should go with him too.

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