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7861
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:57:21 AM »
Don't blame the error of sacrificing integrity for public acceptableness as an excuse to make more errors
it's not an error why do you want to kill children so much anyway
7862
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:54:05 AM »
am I representing Holden Caulfield when I read catcher? I'd really hope not, and I'm not. A first person POV is just a pov
we are talking about video games the catcher in the rye is not a video game
7863
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:51:52 AM »
Tbh Cillian Murphy was the best character of the entire trilogy.
such an underrated actor
have you ever seen Red Eye?
I have not, but I liked him in Anthropoid and The Wind that Shakes the Barley.
He's also insanely handsome.
he looks like an alien
7864
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:44:21 AM »
"if you don't want to kill kids don't have kids in the game" have you considered the idea that it was a tradeoff for them maybe the cost of having some MINOR inconsistency with how the game handles its violence did not exceed the cost of having a weird fucking universe where there are no children for some mysterious, impossible-to-explain reason maybe they were willing to make that sacrifice, and it's a good sacrifice, because it doesn't make sense to not have some kids running around, especially if there were kids running around in fallout 1 and fallout 2 in other words, the game would be WORSE if it had no children vs. if there are children, except you can't hurt them and the risks associated with giving the player the power to kill children simply wasn't worth it, and has no overall bearing on the purpose of the game itself
7865
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:38:31 AM »
That would make sense if the lone wanderer were a character and not an insert for the player
if anything, you could argue this about new vegas
every video game protagonist is an insert for the player that's the point of a video game that doesn't mean you're not playing as a character
7866
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:35:21 AM »
You're the one who went on about Megaton. There's in-game lore about children dying in the nuclear blasts 200 years ago, not to mention the skeletons of tons of kids throughout the game world.
even if the bullshit you were spewing was true, that still doesn't even contradict anything kids can die in fallout 3 because they die in the lore—okay, fine that does not necessarily mean that the Lone Wanderer can kill them himself if anything, you could argue that, no matter how evil the lone wanderer chose to be, he would never resort to killing children, which explains why the player can't do it either
7867
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:31:40 AM »
Gameplay and plot are intertwined, they're both reflections of the logic of the universe. Neither is more important (in the sense of needing to follow established logic).
but you're wrong
7869
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:28:35 AM »
you consistently cannot kill children in fallout 3
Nope, the logic that's established is "children cannot die from any number of nuclear payloads"
which goes against established in-game lore
gameplay can go against lore all the fuck it wants
7870
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:27:47 AM »
A. No.
B. Nothing costs that much unless you're overleveled.
C. Refer to A.
A. Yes B. Then it was 20K C. Refer to A
7871
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:26:48 AM »
don't kids die if you blow up megaton though
which is a plot hole
nope, because not being able to kill children is not part of the plot it's part of the gameplay gameplay =/= plot
7872
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:24:47 AM »
All gameplay should be canon, that's the whole fucking ideal of a video game. wrong
7873
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:24:22 AM »
don't kids die if you blow up megaton though
then i can simply move the goalpost
"kids don't die unless you blow up megaton"
I'm pretty sure there are no kids in megaton.
there are at least one or two, i distinctly remember
7874
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:23:22 AM »
A. You never get phone calls.
B. You should never save that many souls.
C. Why did you die in the first place you hyper casual scrublord?
A. yes i do B. i have to in order to get this thing that i want C. because despite the fact that i'm the best dark souls player in the world, i was in a situation where i couldn't pause earlier, and i died as a result, and this is the second time this has happened—just because i'm the best dark souls player in the world doesn't mean i can do two things at once like that
7875
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:22:00 AM »
don't kids die if you blow up megaton though
then i can simply move the goalpost "kids don't die unless you blow up megaton"
7876
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:19:33 AM »
If you're going to be a hyper baby casul and play offline, I don't see why you shouldn't also have a pause feature.
I still don't understand why it's needed but to each their own.
i'm fighting a tough enemy who i can't run from if i die, i lose the 50K souls i've been saving up, because i was in the middle of recovering them the phone rings, and it's a call i absolutely have to take sure would be nice to have a pause button huh
7877
« on: June 16, 2017, 02:16:55 AM »
If I can kill a an adult, a bear, a big mutant that used to be a human, that means I can also kill any children or dogs I see. Within the game's universe, not necessarily. If I see one and drop a mini nuke on it, and it doesn't die, that means no children or dogs died in the end of the world 200 years ago. But wait! Here we have in-game lore saying they did! And so we get just blatant plot holes and objectively bad writing. No, because gameplay is not canon. Obviously. You have such an anti-thought, consumerist point of view. On the contrary, no point-of-view promotes creative thought more than mine. I'm anti-consumer as fuck. That's why I hate mods so much. Every game is supposed to be a simulation of the logic of its universe. and every game is being able to kill everything except for children is part of the game's internal logic, and as far as i know, that logic is never blatantly contradicted Logical consistency is the most important part of any serious work, and is more important than tone by about seventy levels. it actually isn't but okay you consistently cannot kill children in fallout 3 "Unnecessary?" lmao, it's unnecessary that if you kill the old overseer, a new one takes his place. It's unnecessary that if you're nice to Butch, he's more receptive to you later. Lol things making sense is super unnecessary my man i don't even understand what you're on about right now haha what a deep thinker
not wanting to bother with that heap of vomit on my screen means i'm not a deep thinker
7878
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:43:50 AM »
don't want that, don't have kids in the game
this logic is bad the point of fallout 3 is not to be a perfect simulation of real world physics, where if you shoot a kid, he's gonna die that's not the game's purpose, so it doesn't hurt the game if it doesn't allow you to do something that it wasn't designed to do in the first place it's not pertinent to the game's purpose to decapitate dogs, so you could make the case that they're unnecessary and should be removed, while all the other violence stays in, because it better suits the tone yeah man, let your misanthropic bias cloud basic logic (actually this is more common sense): a human isn't here for any other reason than a dog. Every human is pressured by society into all sorts of different things, does what they can to cope with that / accept it, and then does that to others as part of the society. Again, all through no fault of their own, just of their programming. That's a lesser extent of evil than what a wild animal does in reality, but again, neither can be blamed or seen as evil because of it. If you hold one as being more sacred than the other, you're an idiot. If you see a mass murderer dying as being different than a dog dying, you'd be right. That's because the murderer's gratifying death is a consequence of their actions, not their birth.
If it's just an inherent, biased thing (dogs care unconditionally for their family, there has never been a dog mass murderer), then fine. But if you go beyond that and try to say an innocent dog's death is more tragic than an innocent human's that's very untrue
zero gore is the ideal irl
you could have a show like Breaking Bad be just as amazing and legendary if you took out all the violence, every drop of blood, and replaced it with implications and discretion shots
did not read LOL
7879
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:35:14 AM »
the weird thing is that i actually function fine in social situations
i just constantly feel like i'm under attack no matter what
i don't have a keyboard and a moment's time to formulate my responses to people, so i'm often quiet, reserved, and defensive in conversation
but when i do have a little bit more to say, everyone listens and people tend to appreciate my thoughts
that doesn't seem to help much though, and i can't figure out why
7880
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:31:56 AM »
to the shock and awe of absolutely nobody, i have pretty intense and borderline crippling social anxiety
still trying to figure out how to deal with it, but i'm fortunate enough to have a small circle of old friends to support me
7881
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:28:28 AM »
THEY didn't censor shit, the publisher did bethesda would not have allowed you to kill children, and they would've been retarded to do you understand how big of a shitstorm that would create, especially in today's social climate if you get disturbed by violence to animals and aren't equally disturbed by violence to humans, I don't know what the fuck kind of mentality you have fuck humans tbh your limit in gore in games should be zero gore
No since that's retarded
7882
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:23:02 AM »
tbh they shouldve kept the Bloodborne levels of blood splattering
it really jingles my bells
it just looks way too tryhard
Elaborate
from what i can tell there's a lot of macabre imagery that focuses around pregnancy and abortion which is cool and all, i like that, but i have to wonder whether there's a good artistic reason for that, or if it's just self-indulgent gratuitousness for the sake of it
7883
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:13:33 AM »
tbh they shouldve kept the Bloodborne levels of blood splattering
it really jingles my bells
of all the soulsbourne games, i'm looking forward to this one the least (even though i've heard the best things about it) it just looks way too tryhard
7884
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:12:41 AM »
Literally only because of censorship standards. right, and they could've "censored" (read: not have) dog decaps as well, and no one would've minded except for sick fucks i respect that the game has them, my point was just that i found it disturbing and that even i have my limits when it comes to gore in games
7885
« on: June 16, 2017, 01:03:27 AM »
damn dude
7886
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:59:03 AM »
Well it wouldn't make any sense for you not to be able to? You can decapitate people, the same rules of logic would have to apply for everything. i mean not necessarily you can't decapitate children there's a lot of things you can't do The better solution would be no decapitations/amputations (or an in-menu option), but even if someone is disturbed by a small amount of blood, dark souls or GTA IV level, you treat that as an bad thing
I'M not treating it as a BAD thing i'm treating it as a thing of bewilderment like, what dark souls player is that sensitive? it's astonishing to me either way, i think it's GREAT that the developers give sensitive people like that the option to turn off blood, and that was kinda my whole point
7887
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:54:24 AM »
That's why I'm not against a pause button, it would just have to be implemented in a way that isn't literally "same game in every way, except you can pause whenever". I'd liken it to being the modern equivalent of "save points vs quicksave". There's no problem with quicksave so long as it can't be abused (ie savescumming) or detract from the experience. Same here; there's no problem with being able to pause so long as it doesn't detract from the experience.
that's the thing, though—i just don't think it would detract from the experience if you believe it would, my solution allows you to disable the feature, no questions asked chances are, if you're the kind of person who likes to be able to pause, and considers it a basic preliminary feature that every good video game MUST have, then you're not gonna be bothered too much by whatever it is you're missing out on i've discussed this with a lot of people lately (because i've been playing a lot—i have a couple videos + updates coming soon, btw), and the most interesting solution i've heard so far is that there could be a spell that allows you to pause, but there would be a big downside—like, you get one pause per bonfire or something i think it's a silly idea, but perhaps something like that would be more to your liking if you can think of a good enough downside
7888
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:48:21 AM »
Blood is gore. The amount doesn't matter.
p much why Fallout/Dishonored can be too much sometimes
My understanding of "gore" has always been "body tissue," which includes blood, but it's a rectangle-is-not-a-square type relationship.
Otherwise, the common pairing of "blood and gore" is a redundancy.
I guess that makes sense
I still don't know why it's apparently some bad thing to be sensitive to violence though
you're sensitive to sex, which might be gross, but is straight up beautiful compared to pain and multilation and bodily harm
did you forget that i was quite disturbed by the fact that you can decapitate dogs in fallout 3, and the game treats it as this silly fun thing i have my limits too, but dark souls is incredibly tame with the violence
7889
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:38:59 AM »
Blood is gore. The amount doesn't matter.
p much why Fallout/Dishonored can be too much sometimes
My understanding of "gore" has always been "body tissue," which includes blood, but it's a rectangle-is-not-a-square type relationship. Otherwise, the common pairing of "blood and gore" is a redundancy.
7890
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:37:27 AM »
the average dark souls fan is against enabling pause because that affects the gameplay
With my solution, the average Dark Souls fan would have the option to disable pause if that's how they want to play (it's the objectively incorrect way to play, but that's on them).
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