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4981

Quick question, bro

How well can you relate to Adam's Song and Stay Together For the Kids?
adam's song, to a degree yeah

not so much the second song, given that my parents are still happily together and such

4982
Gaming / Re: Dragon Ball Fighterz
« on: November 23, 2017, 06:03:21 PM »
Looks terrible

4983
and yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guess
This looks like something Deci would say
if deci were a genius

4984
this is just sad.
you will never be able to say you've never done drugs

that's even more sad

4985
That is the goal - so when we praise someone who is getting closer to the perfect state, we let them know that "hey man, you're doing good."
So that's exactly it - you are praised for being closer to perfection.
but it's not

you didn't profit from the experience

if you got out of that situation and THEN proceeded to help others get out of that situation, that would be profiting

but most drug addicts instead decide to relapse, because they're pieces of shit
"Decide to relapse"

Also it's incredible how robotic you view people.
there's no such thing as addiction

just weak, weak people

4986
That is the goal - so when we praise someone who is getting closer to the perfect state, we let them know that "hey man, you're doing good."
So that's exactly it - you are praised for being closer to perfection.
but it's not

you didn't profit from the experience

if you got out of that situation and THEN proceeded to help others get out of that situation, that would be profiting

but most drug addicts instead decide to relapse, because they're pieces of shit

4987
ITT: Verb tries to understand why positive actions are rewarded/praised.
it's not a positive action

it's a return to the neutral position
to return to neutral from negative requires a positive.
but you're still back in neutral

why is that praiseworthy

4988
ITT: Verb tries to understand why positive actions are rewarded/praised.
it's not a positive action

it's a return to the neutral position

4989
No one is arguing that they are not idiots for starting, but if they were able to turn their lives around? You were at least smart enough to realise what you were doing was bad and you did something about it.
but that in itself is not worthy of praise

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ts a positive change - so it gets appraisal.
why shouldn't something that is consistently perfect never get appraisal

4990
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not
literal example "he struggled to the summit of the world's highest mountain"
oh thAt's NoT a StRuGgLe hE chOse to ClImb ThAt mOunTaIn
that's not a struggle

he chose to climb that mountain

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition
you used that incorrectly

appeal to definition is used to describe exclusion of certain scenarios based on the idea that it does not match what's in the dictionary, because the definition is too narrow

try again sweatie
so i didn't use it incorrectly at all then thanks
no, you used it in literally the opposite way

instead of stating that the definition's scope is not wide enough to cover all applicable fields, you have made the claim that the scope is too general and applied to too many situations, which is not how claiming appeal to definition works
there is absolutely no fucking reason it shouldn't work like that, and it's implied to work like that

every fallacy is an implied two-way street

an appeal to nature is described as a shitty argument wherein someone claims that something is "good" because it is "natural"

this also implies that claims of nature being "bad" are also appeals to nature

the point is that, intrinsically, nature is neither good nor bad

it makes perfect fucking sense that definitions can either be too broad or too narrow, and they directly imply the existence of the other

4991
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not
literal example "he struggled to the summit of the world's highest mountain"
oh thAt's NoT a StRuGgLe hE chOse to ClImb ThAt mOunTaIn
that's not a struggle

he chose to climb that mountain

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition
you used that incorrectly

appeal to definition is used to describe exclusion of certain scenarios based on the idea that it does not match what's in the dictionary, because the definition is too narrow

try again sweatie
so i didn't use it incorrectly at all then thanks

you have literally described what i just i did

4992
Well, they do for me so I dunno what to tell you.

Again, people make stupid decisions and dumb choices, it does not factor into my ability to empathize and attempt to help. Explain to me who would gain from belittling them.

I doubt it.
in order to believe everything that i believe, you basically have to be made of pure empathy and nothing else

"don't do drugs or we'll treat you like shit for the rest of your life on top of your addiction"

everyone would gain from this, except the addicts (who chose a life of mockery and hatred anyway)

4993
"i know exactly how you feel, sally the rape victim!

i climbed a big mountain once, and it was hard!"

4994
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not
literal example "he struggled to the summit of the world's highest mountain"
oh thAt's NoT a StRuGgLe hE chOse to ClImb ThAt mOunTaIn
that's not a struggle

he chose to climb that mountain

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition

4995
You don't do drugs, good for you. Now if you would quit being an asshole maybe people would tell you that without you having to demand it.
except they won't because that's just not what people do

i don't actually care if anyone congratulates me for not doing drugs, i just think it's RETARDED to congratulate drug addicts for solving a problem that they create for themselves out of weakness and stupidity

if anything, they should be mocked and belittled for it for the rest of their lives regardless of if they're clean or not

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The fact you care so little for others and how willing you are to raise yourself above, calls into question if you have a modicum of empathy.
i have more empathy in my left thumb than this entire forum has combined

i just know what to use it for

4996
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not

>restraint or constriction

you can't restrain yourself, you have full control, no one can force you to do drugs

and if they somehow manage to, then that would be a struggle, but that doesn't happen to anybody

4997
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

4998
and also i have faced hardship and have suffered, probably more than the average drug addict

it only counts when it's not completely your fault

4999
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

5000
The reason is because once you start doing that shit, its hard to give up. Its not that hard NOT to do it. Just say no.
So if you had enough will power to stop and get normal again, that's an accomplishment.
no it isn't, you stupid shithead

why is it an "accomplishment" to get yourself out of a situation that you put yourself in

how the fuck does that even work

5001
"Validate me!!!!! Wahhhhhh!!!"
"validate those who deserve to be validated"

haha yeah i'm going to mock that perfectly logical and morally just statement because it was stated in a cynical way that doesn't jive with my narrow view of how people should think and feel and behave

here's the 20 likes you're fishing for
People do pat me on the back though. Not all the time, but when the subject comes up and I say my position generally they take a position of "Wow that's great!"

And yes, your post comes off as crying for attention. Doesn't matter how you slice it, demanding to be congratulated for something that should be expected isn't exactly a great look.
>comes off

no, it IS

and drug addicts are expected to quit, so either congratulate me for being fucking awesome, or never say anything positive to anyone who has ever done drugs

double standard

5002
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled

if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything

if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

5003
"Validate me!!!!! Wahhhhhh!!!"
"validate those who deserve to be validated"

haha yeah i'm going to mock that perfectly logical and morally just statement because it was stated in a cynical way that doesn't jive with my narrow view of how people should think and feel and behave

here's the 20 likes you're fishing for

5004
I clapped for you
i clapped when i saw darth vader

5005
i think this is somewhere between secondclass and loaf, i'm not sure

5006
"getting over an addiction is hard, you don't know what that's like"

even though i'm
- more depressed than you
- more socially anxious than you
- poorer than you
- have less friends than you
- have less skills than you
- have less of an overall reason to live and be sober than you
- have sustained this sorry state of existence for a MUCH greater period of time than you

and yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guess

where is my ovation

5007
yet nobody congratulates people who have been clean for their entire lives

where's my pat on the back

5008
The Flood / Re: If I wanted to break your balls
« on: November 23, 2017, 05:13:08 AM »
what's a shinebox?
a box that you'd put your feet on as you would have them shined

5009
The Flood / Re: Becoming an art student was a mistake
« on: November 22, 2017, 11:53:27 PM »
>twenty seventeen
>people still can't into post-modernism
>Literal having no talent and pasting shit on a wall and getting paid for it because of who you know
"LOLOLO SO Creative™ and meaningful®"

This shit should be punishable by death
>missing the point this hard

it's not meant to be creative or meaningful
That's not art, that's being a lazy asshat.
where do you draw the line between art and non-art

as far as i'm concerned, there is no line, and attempting to draw one is extremely harmful to the medium

5010
The Flood / Re: Becoming an art student was a mistake
« on: November 22, 2017, 11:46:52 PM »
>twenty seventeen
>people still can't into post-modernism
>Literal having no talent and pasting shit on a wall and getting paid for it because of who you know
"LOLOLO SO Creative™ and meaningful®"

This shit should be punishable by death
>missing the point this hard

it's not meant to be creative or meaningful

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