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4981
« on: November 23, 2017, 09:31:53 PM »
Quick question, bro
How well can you relate to Adam's Song and Stay Together For the Kids?
adam's song, to a degree yeah not so much the second song, given that my parents are still happily together and such
4982
« on: November 23, 2017, 06:03:21 PM »
Looks terrible
4983
« on: November 23, 2017, 06:01:55 PM »
and yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guess
This looks like something Deci would say
if deci were a genius
4984
« on: November 23, 2017, 12:53:19 PM »
this is just sad.
you will never be able to say you've never done drugs that's even more sad
4985
« on: November 23, 2017, 12:16:58 PM »
That is the goal - so when we praise someone who is getting closer to the perfect state, we let them know that "hey man, you're doing good." So that's exactly it - you are praised for being closer to perfection. but it's not
you didn't profit from the experience
if you got out of that situation and THEN proceeded to help others get out of that situation, that would be profiting
but most drug addicts instead decide to relapse, because they're pieces of shit
"Decide to relapse"
Also it's incredible how robotic you view people.
there's no such thing as addiction just weak, weak people
4986
« on: November 23, 2017, 12:09:33 PM »
That is the goal - so when we praise someone who is getting closer to the perfect state, we let them know that "hey man, you're doing good." So that's exactly it - you are praised for being closer to perfection. but it's not you didn't profit from the experience if you got out of that situation and THEN proceeded to help others get out of that situation, that would be profiting but most drug addicts instead decide to relapse, because they're pieces of shit
4987
« on: November 23, 2017, 12:07:19 PM »
ITT: Verb tries to understand why positive actions are rewarded/praised.
it's not a positive action
it's a return to the neutral position
to return to neutral from negative requires a positive.
but you're still back in neutral why is that praiseworthy
4988
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:58:39 AM »
ITT: Verb tries to understand why positive actions are rewarded/praised.
it's not a positive action it's a return to the neutral position
4989
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:57:58 AM »
No one is arguing that they are not idiots for starting, but if they were able to turn their lives around? You were at least smart enough to realise what you were doing was bad and you did something about it. but that in itself is not worthy of praise ts a positive change - so it gets appraisal.
why shouldn't something that is consistently perfect never get appraisal
4990
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:40:15 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not
literal example "he struggled to the summit of the world's highest mountain"oh thAt's NoT a StRuGgLe hE chOse to ClImb ThAt mOunTaIn that's not a struggle
he chose to climb that mountain
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition
you used that incorrectly
appeal to definition is used to describe exclusion of certain scenarios based on the idea that it does not match what's in the dictionary, because the definition is too narrow
try again sweatie
so i didn't use it incorrectly at all then thanks
no, you used it in literally the opposite way
instead of stating that the definition's scope is not wide enough to cover all applicable fields, you have made the claim that the scope is too general and applied to too many situations, which is not how claiming appeal to definition works
there is absolutely no fucking reason it shouldn't work like that, and it's implied to work like that every fallacy is an implied two-way street an appeal to nature is described as a shitty argument wherein someone claims that something is "good" because it is "natural" this also implies that claims of nature being "bad" are also appeals to nature the point is that, intrinsically, nature is neither good nor bad it makes perfect fucking sense that definitions can either be too broad or too narrow, and they directly imply the existence of the other
4991
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:21:38 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not
literal example "he struggled to the summit of the world's highest mountain"oh thAt's NoT a StRuGgLe hE chOse to ClImb ThAt mOunTaIn that's not a struggle
he chose to climb that mountain
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition
you used that incorrectly
appeal to definition is used to describe exclusion of certain scenarios based on the idea that it does not match what's in the dictionary, because the definition is too narrow
try again sweatie
so i didn't use it incorrectly at all then thanks you have literally described what i just i did
4992
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:17:35 AM »
Well, they do for me so I dunno what to tell you.
Again, people make stupid decisions and dumb choices, it does not factor into my ability to empathize and attempt to help. Explain to me who would gain from belittling them.
I doubt it.
in order to believe everything that i believe, you basically have to be made of pure empathy and nothing else "don't do drugs or we'll treat you like shit for the rest of your life on top of your addiction" everyone would gain from this, except the addicts (who chose a life of mockery and hatred anyway)
4993
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:16:09 AM »
"i know exactly how you feel, sally the rape victim!
i climbed a big mountain once, and it was hard!"
4994
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:12:45 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not
literal example "he struggled to the summit of the world's highest mountain"oh thAt's NoT a StRuGgLe hE chOse to ClImb ThAt mOunTaIn
that's not a struggle he chose to climb that mountain https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition
4995
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:11:28 AM »
You don't do drugs, good for you. Now if you would quit being an asshole maybe people would tell you that without you having to demand it. except they won't because that's just not what people do i don't actually care if anyone congratulates me for not doing drugs, i just think it's RETARDED to congratulate drug addicts for solving a problem that they create for themselves out of weakness and stupidity if anything, they should be mocked and belittled for it for the rest of their lives regardless of if they're clean or not The fact you care so little for others and how willing you are to raise yourself above, calls into question if you have a modicum of empathy.
i have more empathy in my left thumb than this entire forum has combined i just know what to use it for
4996
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:08:17 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to

thank you for confirming that i have struggled and drug addicts have not >restraint or constriction you can't restrain yourself, you have full control, no one can force you to do drugs and if they somehow manage to, then that would be a struggle, but that doesn't happen to anybody
4997
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:05:03 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
oh wait, I didn't learn that today, I already knew that
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
4998
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:04:13 AM »
and also i have faced hardship and have suffered, probably more than the average drug addict
it only counts when it's not completely your fault
4999
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:02:16 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled
if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything
if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
TIL verbatim, who complains constantly about hardships and suffering, has never faced hardship or suffered
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
5000
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:01:51 AM »
The reason is because once you start doing that shit, its hard to give up. Its not that hard NOT to do it. Just say no. So if you had enough will power to stop and get normal again, that's an accomplishment.
no it isn't, you stupid shithead why is it an "accomplishment" to get yourself out of a situation that you put yourself in how the fuck does that even work
5001
« on: November 23, 2017, 10:59:43 AM »
"Validate me!!!!! Wahhhhhh!!!"
"validate those who deserve to be validated"
haha yeah i'm going to mock that perfectly logical and morally just statement because it was stated in a cynical way that doesn't jive with my narrow view of how people should think and feel and behave
here's the 20 likes you're fishing for
People do pat me on the back though. Not all the time, but when the subject comes up and I say my position generally they take a position of "Wow that's great!"
And yes, your post comes off as crying for attention. Doesn't matter how you slice it, demanding to be congratulated for something that should be expected isn't exactly a great look.
>comes off no, it IS and drug addicts are expected to quit, so either congratulate me for being fucking awesome, or never say anything positive to anyone who has ever done drugs double standard
5002
« on: November 23, 2017, 10:57:29 AM »
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
and drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggled if the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anything if anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
5003
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:16:50 AM »
"Validate me!!!!! Wahhhhhh!!!"
"validate those who deserve to be validated" haha yeah i'm going to mock that perfectly logical and morally just statement because it was stated in a cynical way that doesn't jive with my narrow view of how people should think and feel and behave here's the 20 likes you're fishing for
5004
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:15:08 AM »
I clapped for you
i clapped when i saw darth vader
5005
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:13:29 AM »
i think this is somewhere between secondclass and loaf, i'm not sure
5006
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AM »
"getting over an addiction is hard, you don't know what that's like"
even though i'm - more depressed than you - more socially anxious than you - poorer than you - have less friends than you - have less skills than you - have less of an overall reason to live and be sober than you - have sustained this sorry state of existence for a MUCH greater period of time than you
and yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guess
where is my ovation
5007
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:03:14 AM »
yet nobody congratulates people who have been clean for their entire lives
where's my pat on the back
5008
« on: November 23, 2017, 05:13:08 AM »
what's a shinebox?
a box that you'd put your feet on as you would have them shined
5009
« on: November 22, 2017, 11:53:27 PM »
>twenty seventeen >people still can't into post-modernism
>Literal having no talent and pasting shit on a wall and getting paid for it because of who you know "LOLOLO SO Creative™ and meaningful®"
This shit should be punishable by death
>missing the point this hard
it's not meant to be creative or meaningful
That's not art, that's being a lazy asshat.
where do you draw the line between art and non-art as far as i'm concerned, there is no line, and attempting to draw one is extremely harmful to the medium
5010
« on: November 22, 2017, 11:46:52 PM »
>twenty seventeen >people still can't into post-modernism
>Literal having no talent and pasting shit on a wall and getting paid for it because of who you know "LOLOLO SO Creative™ and meaningful®"
This shit should be punishable by death
>missing the point this hard it's not meant to be creative or meaningful
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