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4651
« on: December 27, 2017, 10:25:09 AM »
If you think asparagus are gross and can't stand the taste of them to begin with, it's not at all unreasonable to skip out on a slightly different asparagus-base dish.
i like this analogy
4652
« on: December 27, 2017, 02:57:38 AM »
fuckin'
4653
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:51:09 PM »
i don't, generally
when i'm sick, thinking about food tends to just make me feel more sick
i just like to drink lots and lots of cold-ass water
4654
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:49:49 PM »
Rose's #deep thought after saving Finn is still retarded, and actually pretty funny considering that the First Order immediately blows open the door after she says it and they all would have been slaughtered if Luke didn't show up. It doesn't make sense for Holdo not to tell Poe the plan considering she knows he's a loose-cannon and will make up his own plan if he can't find one to follow (which fucked EVERYTHING up for them).
in thinking about it, rose's little moment towards the end was probably the dumbest part of the movie for me criticizing character actions and saying they don't make sense is a tricky criticism of a movie, because bad leaders do exist in real life, as well as good leaders who make bad or ill-advised decisions i can personally see why holdo withheld the plans from poe—he was recently demoted for being a crazy insubordinate hothead, which understandably cost him a lot of trustworthiness in her eyes—and though it ultimately was a mistake for her to do so, that's just kinda the way the cookie crumbles sometimes i make really bad chess moves and then i ask "why the fuck did i do that," but hindsight is 20/20
4655
« on: December 26, 2017, 05:37:57 PM »
still doing this btw
isn't it funny how most anime can only be enjoyed by people who already enjoy anime
people say films like GitS are good, but nobody who doesn't already enjoy anime enjoys GitS
isn't that peculiar
4656
« on: December 26, 2017, 04:53:02 PM »
maybe stop drinking you stupid fuck
What the twice a year I get hung over
and i'm hungover zero times a year
Congratz want a fucking cookie
nah you're right let's give it to the person who gets hungover twice a year instead
4657
« on: December 26, 2017, 03:45:47 PM »
god this movie was great
i'm gonna make those threads i think
4658
« on: December 26, 2017, 03:03:34 PM »
maybe stop drinking you stupid fuck
What the twice a year I get hung over
and i'm hungover zero times a year
4659
« on: December 26, 2017, 12:48:23 PM »
if someone gets you drugs as a christmas present, kill them
what if it's antibiotics to help with an illness?
kill yourself, and then kill them
4660
« on: December 26, 2017, 12:39:27 PM »
if someone gets you drugs as a christmas present, kill them
4661
« on: December 26, 2017, 12:38:32 PM »
maybe stop drinking you stupid fuck
4662
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:47:06 AM »
4663
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:44:28 AM »
how would you like the sticks to be, if not at the same height
Offset like the Xbox.
into to the trash
4664
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:42:44 PM »
It's an obvious retcon; a throwaway line isn't a precedent for anything.
But I do rescind my complaint, knowing that the explanation in the movie was bullshit. And hopefully it's never used again.
it would be a retcon if star wars made it a point to say that technology is fixed and never improves
4665
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:33:57 PM »
i'd say hyperspace being an instant jail-free card is probably the bigger contrivance, and technological advancements in a franchise taking place in a technologically advanced fantasy setting shouldn't feel all that contrived I.M.O.
4666
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:30:45 PM »
Spoiler ]Also, ships can just track other ships through hyperspace, which is all sorts of dumb
It was a contrived, unprecedented plot device that undermines the continuity of the series.
That said, apparently it wasn't some magic tracking device, but was a massive supercomputer calculating possible destinations the same way it was done in the OT multiple times, but a lot faster. So basically all the technobabble Finn and Rose spat out to justify its existence was just nonsense.
contrived, maybe (welcome to star wars) unprecedented, no, because rogue one foreshadowed it
4667
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:04:39 PM »
I never said he was perfect either, that was the whole point of getting shocked to death by Sheev. But just because he had two small moments of weakness (that he overcame) doesn't mean he's not virtuous or an ideal role model.
you can rest easy knowing that mark hamill himself seems to agree with you, as he didn't personally enjoy how his character was being portrayed in this movie either for me personally, if luke were portrayed the safe way, it would've made for a worse film
4668
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:53:21 PM »
The black outfit might have been a good parallel, but the only reason he had a green lightsaber in RoTJ is because a blue lightsaber would've looked bad during during the fight in the Tatooine desert with the clear blue sky in the background.
http://www.forcematerial.com/home/2016/10/23/the-real-reason-luke-skywalker-has-a-green-lightsaber
"Remember - Luke had a green one because the effects sequence had it against a blue sky. That's as deep as these things tend to go." — Pablobot Hidalgonk (@pablohidalgo) October 18, 2016 i would suggest that you read that entire article EDIT: I see the response was in relation to my comment on his character. If what he did wasn't morally admirable then what is to you? Willing to die to redeem your father and not turn to the dark side seems like a paragon of virtue to me. He was written with these traits because he was written to be a role model. no, i said that he's admirable i'm just saying that he's not perfect by "paragon of virtue," i'm talking about a guy who never does any wrong, and always does the rightest possible thing, no matter what, which is what you seem to think luke either is or should be that's what i'm disagreeing with
4669
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:34:21 PM »
He could've have been everything you just mentioned, but that doesn't change the fact that he was established as the main leader of the bad guys and they killed him off half way through it all. So who's the main villain now? Don't say Kylo, as much as I love Kylo in this movie, he's still conflicted about being dark. i don't really care, because i don't think the story necessarily needs a "main villain" at this point, or at least, not one who is irredeemably evil that shit's boring to me, and if i ever want to see anything like that again, i'll just watch the older films breaking these story conventions is part of what makes these new movies interesting to me
4670
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:29:22 PM »
What does the black outfit or green light saber have to do with anything? Also he bargained with Jabba, several times. Vader would have never done that. by the time ANH and Empire were out, it had been firmly established that the good guys, jedi, used BLUE lightsabers, and the bad guys used RED lightsabers then comes rotj and introduces GREEN, and what else could that mean other than moral ambivalence? they don't just make these design choices for no reason, you know as for the black outfit, darth vader's suit is black, which in itself is a symbolic parallel that doesn't mean he's a straight-up grey jedi in rotj, or anything, but he very often shows signs that he's torn, and isn't afraid to use the force in perhaps less-than-scrupulous ways to get his ends meet do not accuse me of looking "too deep" into this, because these are fairly surface level observations if you understand anything about how symbolism works It's not a blight on his morality for showing care in his friends and family, nor is it a blight when he sticks by his ideals through it all. Why do you think he threw away his lightsaber in front of the emperor? To show off? In the end he overcame that weakness. That was crucial moment that established two things, that Luke IS a morally-upstanding character, allowing himself to be defenseless in front of the most powerful force user in the galaxy to stand by his ideals; and that he wasn't all powerful, as shown when Sheev begins to go Mike Pence on him. it shows that he's a morally-upstanding dude who ultimately saved the universe, yes but that does NOT make him space jesus he's still not a paragon of virtue, and was never stated or shown to be What about it was believable for him as a character? As I mentioned several times, he had always attempted to diffuse/talk out a situation first. Going straight to "Better fucking kill my nephew" first is something Luke would have never done, especially after his success in bringing his father back to the light. Yes, he did ultimately not go through with it and realize it was a terrible thought process, but it was one that post-RoTJ/pre-TLJ Luke would have never done.
i just disagree and even if you're right, i would still argue that this led to a FAR more interesting story i think that sort of fleeting heat-of-the-moment type thinking is a very honest portrayal of how people tend to function when presented with some extremely scary and potentially threatening shit
4671
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:08:15 PM »
fuck you icy, you don't even post
4672
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:04:59 PM »
If he's so powerful in the force, he should've been able to sense that he was in danger.
you're making unnecessary assumptions who's to say he's that powerful maybe they're trying to show that kylo's will to deceive him is stronger than snoke's ability to see it coming maybe snoke's thirst to watch his apprentice fulfill his destiny caused him to drop his guard momentarily maybe something else maybe having such boring OP villains in movies is really fucking lame and stupid and your opinion is bad
4673
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:01:23 PM »
OH I FORGOT
i really really really liked that they acknowledged the prequels in this movie
because you know, they're the best films after all
4674
« on: December 25, 2017, 09:00:05 PM »
It's exactly what it is. Luke changed from simple farm boy to a Jedi Master with morals and ideals, and he throws them the fuck away over a hilariously poorly written mistake.
luke never became a jedi master in the OT, just a very skilled knight imo also his morals and ideals were shown to be questionable at best in rotj, which is symbolized by his black outfit, green lightsaber, and the fact that he speaks almost like vader does at jabba the hutt: "you can either profit by this, or be destroyed. i warn you not to underestimate my powers," etc. not to mention, he's visibly conflicted when darth sidious is goading him to join the dark side and shit doesn't seem like the most morally-upstanding guy to me so what was poorly-written about it "i didn't want it to happen that way" is not a reason
4675
« on: December 25, 2017, 08:56:20 PM »
I'm not gonna mark my spoilers, don't read this post if you haven't seen the movie.
The most common complaints seem to be the following:
- High highs and low lows in terms of "moments"
- Too many jokes
- Pacing
- Luke's actions and overall behavior
I think most of us can agree that the highest of highs was probably Snoke's throne room scene with Rey and Kylo Ren. For me, this was one of the coolest scenes in the entire series, and it reminded me of some of the best moments from Return of the Jedi (my favorite OT film).
A lot of people seem upset that Snoke died, but as Napalm and a couple others have been saying, I personally enjoyed it as a big establisihng character moment for Kylo Ren, because Snoke himself was never that interesting in the first place, and there's no reason to assume that his lore won't be expounded upon in the future anyway.
Adam Driver is FUCKING AWESOME, and I would say that he made the movie for me, but there was a lot more that I really appreciated, too. Adam's acting is extremely un-Star Wars-like, but in a very good way. The way he just glowers at everyone, and how he's always shouting angrily, is really great. Listen to the way he shouts "You're still holding on, LET GO" at Rey during that scene. Nobody in Star Wars talks like that. It makes him stand out in a really cool way, and I honestly believe that, next to Mark Hamill, Adam Driver is the best talent in the cast. Loved every minute of his scenes, best character in the NT.
Speaking of Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker is an awesome character now. Hated him in ANH. Didn't like him much in Empire. Thought he was redeemed in RotJ. But Rian Johnson wrote Luke Skywalker in a way that turns him from "bad-turned-quality character" into a character that actually resonates with me at a core level. He had so many great moments, with the Kylo Ren backstory sequences (where you get to hear the story three times in three different perspectives) and his final sequence, which was the most satisfying thing to watch ever.
The moments where I was able to predict what was about to happen were not hampered by their predictability. They were enhanced by them, because the things I was predicting were the things that I really wanted to see happen. When Luke is dueling Kylo, I knew every step of the way what was about to happen. But somehow, it worked. Something about the pathos of this movie was able to make it work for me, and I might need to see it a second time to figure out how or why.
The only two things I had issues with were Captain Phasma getting the short end of the stick once again in terms of character priority, and then proceeding to get Darth Maul'd. I was hoping to see a little bit more devepment from her, but they decided to use her as a character-establishing tool for Finn instead. Unfortunately, their scene together was much less powerful than the one between Snoke and Kylo Ren.
The second thing is porgs. I really hate the porgs, and the less they were in the movie, the better it was. Thankfully, they weren't in there very often, but when they got in your face, they REALLY got in your face.
Rey was fine, too, I guess. I always liked her. I'm kind of okay with her being reduced to a side character as long as she gets more moments in the next episode.
For me, this was Earned Pathos: The Movie. My sister was watching it with me, too, and she probably cares about this franchise even less than I do, but she said she cried about ten times during the movie.
I probably have more to say that I've forgotten, but those are my current thoughts. In order to understand why this is currently my favorite Star Wars movie requires me to talk about every other Star Wars movie to explain why they're not as good, and that's not something I'm prepared to do right now.
4676
« on: December 25, 2017, 08:38:31 PM »
>A character devolving from the Hero's Journey is somehow better story telling
Lmao i mean, you can describe it that way if you want to, but that doesn't mean that's what it is
4677
« on: December 25, 2017, 08:37:19 PM »
>Supposedly the most powerful dark force user in the galaxy
>Can't tell with dark side that your apprentice is about to kill you
If Snoke is that inept than Kylo isn't so beneath him in power that he would've put up with his shit.
there are two dark force users left in this galaxy that we're aware of framing it as though that somehow makes him omnipotent seems silly and presumptuous why do you want characters to be boring, i don't get it
4678
« on: December 25, 2017, 08:23:24 PM »
how would you like the sticks to be, if not at the same height
4679
« on: December 25, 2017, 08:17:40 PM »
okay brb time for MY opinions
4680
« on: December 25, 2017, 08:15:53 PM »
Luke Skywalker does not appear in this movie, instead we get a grumpy old nut that just looks like an old Luke.
and the movie was made 10x better for it also yeah he's definitely luke
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