just thought i'd set it straight then

i would say you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who thinks numbers are anything more than adjectives, or properties, but apparently william lane craig does?

Tennis, indeed, is an abstract object but only because its empirical properties make it so. I'm not arguing against abstract objects in this sense.

right, but that's all that i was saying, really

if i'm honest, i don't even know what that last sentence means--i think you're just saying that numbers (ones, twos, threes) don't exist in reality, which no one's gonna come out and say

i'm arguing for the existence of the adjectival nature of... numbers, which is their sole function, anyway--they describe quantity, nothing else

so... we have entities with demonstrable oneness, twoness, etc.
in the same way that knives have sharpness and rocks have roughness--objectively, realistically, regardless of our perception

in my opinion, only a solipsist or hard nihilist could deny the inherent qualities (and quantities, which--indeed, part of my argument posits that quantity is in itself a single type of quality) of ontological entities as well as conceptual or abstract entities--but, obviously, nothing beyond the healthy human's perception--you shouldn't be able to observe gamma rays, for example, but we still know they exist

and you have to use words like "entity" in discussions like this--"object" implies... singularity, but an "entity" can contain many objects and still be one holistic thing

also, no one's gonna argue that numbers are special, either--i think that was just a grabber

Lock the thread.

oh my god

this is so fucking stupid

if either of you repeat the same shit again, i'm getting someone to lock the thread

this is just too goddamn stupid

i wouldn't

not in this case

In practice, there is a heavy possibility of it leading to genocide.

nope

i'll concede that it's a possibility

but i can't allow the use of the word "heavy"

nope, sorry

Genocide involves killing. You can't kill what doesn't exist. Ergo, you commit genocide against the nonexistent. It doesn't mesh. "Verb promotes the extinction of the human race!" is 100% certifiable, but genocide isn't.

he's saying that the genocide comes with the act of allowing ourselves to become extinct

which is still pigshit insane, but you know, that's what he's saying

what the culture or the anime itself?

all of it

But its shunned for whatever pointless reason. Probably the otaku culture.

it's because it's bad
period

You are also really good at instigating, Chally. I don't even mean that negatively, it's truly an amazing trait that if applied elsewhere, could really do things. In the practical world.

why would you encourage him

i just don't go to restaurants at all

because i think tipping is fucking retarded

Did you ever get around to watching anything from that thread?

Ghost in the Shell.

2/10.

Anti natalism would be genocide in practice.

You will always be wrong.

This is getting absolutely nowhere; I'm done. Be ignorant and delusional for all I care.

Practicality is all that matters.

I'm gonna hold you to that. I don't ever wanna see you posting anything frivolous, ever.