Well, I'm sorry, but I don't think you did it very well. You said everything I expected you to say--you like the story, the animation, the music. That's all just kind of obvious. Like, of course you're gonna like that. That doesn't really help me understand why you like it, though.

Is writing an essay about your detailed opinion on something that hard?

Am I just the shit, or something? Because if you ask me why I like anything that I like, I can write you a fucking ten page essay explicitly telling you every little thing that makes it good. It's not hard. Is it a time thing? It would take me no more than ten minutes to write something nice.

Well, this question is one hell of a catch-22 for me.

again, that all just sounds very superficial

...then you're a stupid cunt, who

1. didn't read the post, and didn't realize that i'm actually conceding that pokemon isn't that artful in any non-superficial way
2. thinks that themes are superficial

I can't pinpoint what makes it special because there isn't anything that makes it special compared to the above.

then you're just not understanding what i mean by special, because this point is integral
it's absolutely fundamental to understanding where i'm coming from

if you did not see something in the anime that you enjoyed
you wouldn't watch anime

and if it's something superficial like gore, just because you can't have as much blood in real life

that is an extremely superficial reason to like anything, and i reject it on its face
if you have no other reasons to watch anime, i'm putting you in the "has bad taste" bin

It's quite fine, going to work just involved Alt-Tabbing and doing my essay lol. 15 minutes isn't going to throw it off, I'm just happily going to axe my density playtime tonight in favour of catching up on my work <.<

oh, i thought you actually had to go somewhere

it can't just be "wow, that thing he just did was funny" or "wow, that girl is really cute"

and i would argue that if you DO like stuff like this, then you have bad taste

but how an anyone say someone like me has bad taste?

i'm the one who's actually trying to find philosophical/psychological/etc. value in a lot of these shows
but they're just SO empty

you take a movie like fight club, and it explores all sorts of themes
what the hell does k-on! explore? jackshit

If you are going to just outright dismiss my reasoning for why I like anime, then have at it. But it makes you look remarkably petty to do so, because you make the claim that nobody can - I then do, as does tru - and you shift the goalposts by saying 'oh that's not justifying it' So if you are going to keep on making fallacies, have fun. I've gotta get on with my work now.

if there wasn't something special about anime, you wouldn't watch it

that's my argument

obviously, you do find something special about it
i want you to pinpoint what that thing/those things are

Verb, why the fuck is anyone here going to bother writing a formal essay to explain how they derive entertainment from a specific media form?

because it's the easiest goddamn thing in the world to do

Remind me what film and music is for then.

are you talking about good music and good film?

art

are you talking about the average film and the average piece of music?

entertainment
the average film and the average piece of music blows dick, though

art shouldn't just be for entertainment

bottom line

Speaking generally, obviously this only applies to my favourites but anyhoo
You've got developed characters, storylines (Such as ones based around implementing a better world for everyone, ending war with a quantum computer etc.) that interest me. Some have very fluid and beautiful animation in themselves, in the same way that you can have pretty artwork and pretty films. Then you have some of the less important but things I do love in any genre, Gore that's not possible/common with live action stuff (Or when it does, it looks awful and fake), plenty of guns (More dakka is always better), comedy/black humour and enjoyable soundtracks.

I could go on, but it's not just 'hurr I like it' it's not something commonly stated because it's like asking why you like reading books or watching films. It's a generic term, so I had to narrow it down to two of my favourites for the examples above.

- lots of things "developed characters" and storylines. that doesn't make it good
- animation is a very shallow reason to like anything--it's like saying, "i like this song because it makes my ears feel good"

you even mention that movies and other art can also have beautiful animation
So what the FUCK makes anime so special?

- gore... like you said, that's... gross? and niche as fuck
- guns are boring as fuck, and you can have lots of guns in movies, too
- comedy and black humor is a legit reason to like something--i can concede to that, but then again, i would argue that that still doesn't make anime special

So, you've done nothing to justify liking anime thus far.
Anyone else?

I don't even think I'm going to waste my time watching every anime ever.

If I say "I hate anime", and you DOUBT me, then you're just a fucking retard.

Quote from: Verbatim on February 23, 2015, 02:39:58 PM

They can't do it. Not without saying something stupid and generic like, "because I like it."

Its more sensible than hating anime because its anime.

No, it isn't. They have the exact same amount of sensibility.

I don't hate anime because it's anime. Like I said, I'm in the process of starting an anime reviewing series here called "Fuck Anime", and I'm starting it with Ghost in the Shell. I have calculated reasoning for all my hatred. I don't just hate things for stupid, unsubstantiated reasons.

You go to anime message boards?
That's pretty funny.

I don't. It's called an example.

Also, thanks for completely avoiding pretty much every single point I've made in this thread so far.

So, coming into an anime thread and interacting with people there, will what?

Make them discuss it.
Or are we not allowed to make discussion threads anymore?

No. That's not what he said.

Instead of asking why I hate anime, they start DOUBTING me. Instead of either A) accepting it, or B) discussing the follies of anime, they do C) recommend me some bullshit anime that I will probably hate.

the one time that i asked for recommendations doesn't count, of course--because that time, i actually asked for it

this applies to every other anime-related sector of the internet that i've posted on

Quote from: Verbatim on February 23, 2015, 02:15:28 PM

Why don't weeaboos just ignore me?

Because it's fun messing with you

And it's fun messing with idiotic anime fans who refuse to accept that I hate their shit.