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41041
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:08:21 PM »
Nineteen, kid.
41042
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:01:47 PM »
If it helps you sleep at night to believe that, kid.
41043
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:53:27 AM »
Whatever helps you sleep at night, kid.
41044
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:47:38 AM »
I'm gonna call you McCarthyX from now on.
Or maybe just demagogueX.
41045
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:17:38 AM »
threats to humanity. You thinking of me as a threat makes my dick ROCK hard. We're only a threat for as long as there is a reason to keep humanity around. Which there isn't. And you're not gonna find one. And this isn't the thread to discuss it anyway. And I won't discuss it with you, of all people. I just wanted to make that clear. If there's no reason for humanity to be around, I'm about as much of a threat to humanity as a trash can is a threat to garbage.
41046
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:10:09 AM »
I really don't see how anti-natalism is genocide, given that it is entirely based on inaction, not the use of force, and is not intended to target a specific group. In fact, anti-nataliism and force are antithetical. Anti-natalism is a radical view where extreme value is placed on consent. You may not, in this mindset, make any decision for another person, even choosing to give them life. At least, as I understand it. You are correct, and I thank you for this thread. It does my heart good to know that there's people out there who, if they don't straight-up agree with me, can at least see where I'm coming from and understand the position. Rather than malign it blindly out of fear and cowardice, like VenomFangX challengerX here.
41047
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:39:38 AM »
Anti-natalism from, say, a radical environmentalist mindset, could be genocidal. Say a group decides humans should die out because they encroach on natural habitats and pollute the earth. They sterilize themselves and begin forcibly sterilizing everyone else. This is pretty close to genocide. I think I recall Verb saying that he believes abortions should be mandatory at some point. So that might qualify for the kind of thing you're talking about.
Not de jure, but de facto. If everyone was an anti-natalist, everyone would be okay with getting abortions anyway. Not to mention, everyone would be smart enough not to get each other pregnant in the first place. So yes, that was an exaggeration.
41048
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:41:57 PM »
You make such retarded threads.
41049
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:24:55 PM »
You are welcome to try and challenge this definition i'm doing that right the fuck now. Demonstrate to me how the current legal definition of genocide isn't a piece of fucking shit. How so? Because there's no reason you would've brought it up if you didn't think that the philosophy's intentions fell under the legal definition of genocide. "Article 2 of the Genocide Convention:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;"[/i]
Ethnic cleansing intends the removal of a group, genocide its destruction.
I already contest the Genocide Convention, so you can't fucking regurgitate that shit at me. I say the Genocide Convention is wrong. Demonstrate to me how they're "not wrong". And don't just say it's because they're "respected" with "years of experience". Explain to me, using LOGIC ALONE, why genocide doesn't have to involve murder.
41050
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:18:23 PM »
It's genocide.
Either way, you're for the extinction of humanity. There's nothing good about that no matter how you swing it.
Anti natalism is a death cult.
and you've been reduced to repeating the same shit over and over again, like the desperate loser that you are You lose.
41051
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:13:26 PM »
You could send an entire ethnicity into space with a lifetime supply of sustenance and whatever else they need to survive out there, and that would also count as ethnic cleansing. But it wouldn't be fucking GENOCIDE, for fuck's sake. Not unless you sent them out in space without the proper equipment.
41052
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:11:48 PM »
Yes thank you for completely ignoring my point as i pointed out, "kill" in english can be used in various contexts as well it can mean to end something's life and it can also mean to end something in general but using it in the second sense sounds REALLY fucking awkward and most people don't use it unless they're saying something like "kill the lights" you don't say "i killed my book last night" And for the record, I know that anti-natalism doesn't count as genocide. you realize you just backtracked, then? Fair enough. You are welcome to disagree, it won't change a thing. yes, i know it won't change the fact that they're retards--i know this Question though. What if a government would round up all members of a certain group (jews, gypsies, blacks...) and put them in prison, keeping them completely isolated from one another, with the specific and vocalized intent of ending this race / ehtnical group. They don't actually kill anyone, but they just keep them locked up and force them into labor and separation. A few decades down the line, the last member of this group will have died, and thereby this race / ethnical group seizes to exist because of what the government did to them. What would you consider this?
Ethnic cleansing. Genocide involves murder. PERIOD.
41053
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:10:20 PM »
LOL, THE THREAD WAS SPLIT BEFORE HE WAS FINISHED TYPING UP HIS RESPONSE, SO IT WENT IN THE WRONG THREAD
SO FUNI
41054
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:05:21 PM »
All right, sorry, go ahead and move that post, too.
41055
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:04:50 PM »
Yes thank you for completely ignoring my point as i pointed out, "kill" in english can be used in various contexts as well it can mean to end something's life and it can also mean to end something in general but using it in the second sense sounds REALLY fucking awkward and most people don't use it unless they're saying something like "kill the lights" you don't say "i killed my book last night" And for the record, I know that anti-natalism doesn't count as genocide. you realize you just backtracked, then? Fair enough. You are welcome to disagree, it won't change a thing. yes, i know it won't change the fact that they're retards--i know this Question though. What if a government would round up all members of a certain group (jews, gypsies, blacks...) and put them in prison, keeping them completely isolated from one another, with the specific and vocalized intent of ending this race / ehtnical group. They don't actually kill anyone, but they just keep them locked up and force them into labor and separation. A few decades down the line, the last member of this group will have died, and thereby this race / ethnical group seizes to exist because of what the government did to them. What would you consider this?
Ethnic cleansing. Genocide involves murder. PERIOD.
41056
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:53:24 PM »
This is just pathetic.
You're wrong. Accept it and move on.
do you have kids? no? wow, you fucking mass murderer go to hell
41057
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:52:02 PM »
Question: Do those "respected" dumbfuck lawyers of yours believe that when people die of natural causes, does that count as homicide?
Under their dumbfuck logic and reason, it would.
That's your ignorance and bias speaking. You're completely misunderstanding and have a very weak grasp on English and Latin.
LOL says the person who thinks genocide doesn't have to involve murder
41058
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:48:30 PM »
List of genocidal maniacs (according to challengerX):
Jesus Christ
Isaac Newton
Plato
Mary Magdalene
Mother Teresa
Florence Nightingale
Joan of Arc
Lawrence of Arabia
Edward the Confessor
Betsy Ross
Rosa Parks
Bert Parks
Susan B. Anthony
Arthur C. Clarke
Ralph J. Gleason
the Dali Lama
the Pope
the Babe
Howard Hughes
Amelia Earhart
and both the Wright brothers
Oliver Wendell Holmes
John Clellon Holmes
George Bernard Shaw
Beethoven
Tchaikovsky
Vivaldi
T.S. Elliot
W.H. Auden
H.L. Mencken
George Gershwin
George Balanchine
George Washington
Louie Armstrong
Lionel Hampton
Lillian Hellman
Helen Keller
Helen Thomas
Helen Mirren
Billie Holiday
Bettye LaVette
Bettie Page
Leonardo
Michelangelo
Vincent
Salvador Dali
David Hockney
Jackson Pollock
Lee Krasner
Mary Cassatt
Frida Kahlo
Dostoyevski
Chekhov
Thoreau
Spinoza
Virgil
Keats
Poe
Pound
Proust
Rimbaud
Whitman
Tennessee Williams
Washington Irving
Mississippi John Hurt
Robert Louis Stevenson
Alexander Pope
William Blake
Thomas Hardy
Henry James
Henry Miller
D.H. Lawrence
E.M. Forster
J.M. Barrie
Lewis Carroll
Noel Coward
Edward Albee
Virginia Woolf
George Eliot
Isak Dineson
Jane Austen
Willa Cather
Margaret Mitchell
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Joyce Carol Oates
Katherine Anne Porter
Katherine Mansfield
Flannery O’Connor
Emily Dickinson
Emily Bronte
Edith Wharton
Eudora Welty
Harper Lee
Amy Tan
Anaïs Nin
Dorothy Parker
Raymond Chandler
James Baldwin
Joseph Campbell
Carlos Castaneda
Gore Vidal
Jean Genet
Lester Bangs
Seymour Hersh
Allen Ginsberg
Henri Cru
Ralph Nader
Jerry Brown
Andy Warhol
Keith Haring
Merce Cunningham
Ahmet Ertegun
Brian Epstein
Sandy Koufax
Dr. Kellogg
Dr. Seuss
George Peabody
Amy Clampitt
Son House
Nikola Tesla
Edwin Hubble
Vaclav Havel
Joseph Haydn
Hannibal
Robespierre
Baudelaire
Raffi
Lenin
Locke
Kant
Oprah
Odetta
Queen Latifah
Queen Elizabeth I
Eva Perón
Ma Rainey
Harriet Tubman
Nina Totenberg
Diane Sawyer
Dian Fossey
Annie Oakley
Angela Davis
Molly Ivins
Edith Head
Emma Goldman
Gertrude Stein
Gloria Steinem
Georgia O’Keefe
Alberta Hunter
Candace Bushnell
Camille Paglia
Fran Lebowitz
Simone de Beauvoir
Helen Gurley Brown
Edie Kerouac
Joanne Kyger
Julia Child
Rachael Ray
Suze Orman
Tyra Banks
Monica Seles
Billie Jean King
Martina Navratilova
Florence Griffith Joyner
Jackie Joyner-Kersee
Big Mama Thornton
Big Joe Turner
Blind Lemon Jefferson
Liza Minelli
Ginger Rogers
Imogene Coco
Coco Chanel
Mack Sennett
Billy Wilder
Victor Mature
Burgess Meredith
Montgomery Clift
Peter Ustinov
Hal Ashby
Rock Hudson
River Phoenix
James Dean
Sal Mineo
Patrick Swayze
Mickey Rourke
Christopher Walken
Harry Dean Stanton
Katherine Hepburn
Greta Garbo
Jean Harlow
Mae West
Carole Lombard
Paulette Goddard
Claudette Colbert
Tallulah Bankhead
Lillian Gish
Marilyn Monroe
Ann-Margret
Ava Gardner
Linda Evans
Lauren Hutton
Jacqueline Bisset
Stephanie Powers
Morgan Fairchild
Cameron Diaz
Carmen Electra
Samantha Fox
Bo Derek
Ashley Judd
Jane Lynch
Kim Cattrall
Eva Longoria
Marisa Tomei
Portia de Rossi
Renee Zellweger
Zooey Deschanel
Lara Flynn Boyle
Jennifer Aniston
Winona Ryder
Fran Drescher
Frances Farmer
Daryl Hannah
Shelley Duvall
Valerie Perrine
Brenda Vaccaro
Stockard Channing
Shirley Booth
Julie Christie
Betty White
Bonnie Hunt
Kathy Bates
Linda Blair
Carol Kane
Madeline Kahn
Marlo Thomas
Ellen Burstyn
Cicely Tyson
Swoozie Kurtz
Kristy McNichol
Allison Janney
Marsha Mason
Anjelica Huston
Dick Cavett
Oliver Hardy
Buck Henry
Bill Hicks
Bill Maher
Jay Leno
Ricky Gervais
Mitch Hedberg
Graham Chapman
Michael O’Donoghue
Gilda Radner
Rita Rudner
Brett Butler
Lily Tomlin
Kathy Griffin
Jan Hooks
Nora Dunn
Cheri Oteri
Chelsea Handler
Janeane Garofalo
Ellen DeGeneres
Elayne Boosler
Lizz Winstead
Megan Mullally
Margaret Cho
Susie Essman
Sarah Silverman
Syd Barrett
Sid Vicious
Jimi Hendrix
Nona Hendryx
Johnny Winter
Edgar Winter
Bill Monroe
Guy Lombardo
Aaron Copland
Cole Porter
Charley Patton
Eddie Cochran
Little Richard
Sonny Rollins
Charles Mingus
King Curtis
Sidney Bechet
Billy Strayhorn
Stephane Grappelli
Luther Vandross
Johnny Mathis
Freddie Mercury
Nick Drake
Dobie Gray
Tim Hardin
Garth Hudson
Gram Parsons
Mike Bloomfield
Rory Gallagher
Lou Reed
Jimmy Reed
Jim Croce
Jim Morrison
J.J. Cale
John Cage
Jeff Buckley
Joey Ramone
Johnny Ramone
Dee Dee Ramone
Tommy Ramone
Robert Hunter
Vince Welnick
Ron ‘Pigpen’ McKernon
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Sonny Boy Williamson
Long John Baldry
Dave Van Ronk
Nash the Slash
Tupac Shakur
Billy Preston
Burton Cummings
Nicky Hopkins
Noel Redding
Ellie Greenwich
Bessie Smith
Bonnie Raitt
Mavis Staples
Marcia Ball
Tracy Chapman
Janet Jackson
Laurie Anderson
Karen Carpenter
Mary Chapin Carpenter
Gloria Gaynor
Amy Winehouse
Dusty Springfield
Dolly Parton
Debbie Harry
Fiona Apple
Nanci Griffith
Stevie Nicks
Christine McVie
Joan Armatrading
Joan Jett
Janis Ian
Fergie
Selina
41059
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:44:14 PM »
You might be able to get away with omnicide. You would sound a little less like a complete fucking retard.
But it's still retardation beyond belief.
It's genocide. Simple and plain.
If you want to be a retard.
41060
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:43:52 PM »
Question: Do those "respected" dumbfuck lawyers of yours believe that when people die of natural causes, does that count as homicide? Under their dumbfuck logic and reason, it would.
41061
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:40:38 PM »
You might be able to get away with omnicide. You would sound a little less like a complete fucking retard.
But it's still retardation beyond belief.
41062
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:34:16 PM »
Wow
Just wow
The man studied Latin for 7 years. He's studying to become a lawyer. The worlds greatest minds on this all prove you wrong, and you sit there and call them retards?
Yes. If you say, "Genocide does not necessarily have to involve killing people," you are a retard. It doesn't matter.
41063
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:31:47 PM »
It's the default position so it can't be labeled a cult.
And seeing how you have happiness as well as suffering, that isn't applicable. Unlike you, we don't wallow in misery all day. We aren't afraid of life or of suffering. "we" "we" "we" cult cult cult
41064
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:30:50 PM »
In Latin, "-cidere" or the verb "caedere" means just as much "to end" or "terminate" as it does "to kill" or "to slaughter" Sorry, wrong. Do you know what context is? The Latin word for "end", last time I checked, was "finis". Eliminate is "eliminare". Terminate is "terminare". Imagine writing, "this scene kills the movie," when you meant to say, "this scene ends the movie". who the FUCK talks like that no one It is almost always the actual killing in combination with causing serious and deliberate harm, the imposition of conditions of life leading to the destruction of the group and the imposition of measures to prevent people from having children. none of which is condoned or supported by my philosophy zero And while it is true that there haven't been any genocides that exclusively and entirely consisted of forcibly stopping people from having children, it is definitely a real possibility. one that is not expressed by anti-natalism unlike what joseph goebbels here would have you believe i mean challengerX Regardless of what you think of it, it is the culmination of decades of some of the most respected and intelligent international lawyers and high courts in the world working on this. It's an accepted principle of Customary International Law and can be found in both the Genocide Convention (art. 2-3) and the Statute of the ICJ (art. 6). they're retards yesi am telling you that they are RETARDS if they think genocide doesn't involve murder
41065
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:22:28 PM »
I'm not part of a cult. Yes you are. You want people to keep producing children solely so they can suffer and die.
41066
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:18:47 PM »
I'm not part of a cult and don't believe in anything, so no. You don't believe in anything. Really. cool, now i can just report all of your posts for trolling
41067
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:16:50 PM »
challengerX wants people to endure decades of pain and suffering for no worthy cause
^
completely fair way to argue
41068
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:14:52 PM »
why don't you just say that i wanna start a global holocaust or something
it would be just as duplicitous and propagandistic It's exactly what I'm saying. You're part of a death cult.
and you're part of a pain & suffering cult is that how arguing works
41069
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:12:17 PM »
why don't you just say that i wanna start a GLOBAL HOLOCAUST or something
make it sound as spooky and evil as possible to substitute having a rational argument against it
it would be just as duplicitous and propagandistic
41070
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:09:00 PM »
sorry for doing this in your thread meta, but fuck me, this shit is so fucking stupid
in all my two and a half years of subscribing to this philosophy--NEVER have i been accused of being "genocidal"
it's kinda the exact opposite of what i fucking condone, shitheads
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