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Remind me, what's your stance on drug legalization? I know you're against people personally getting high, but I've always had the mindset that if someone wants to do a bunch of heroin and kill themselves, they should be legally able to. Their body, their choice.
i'm pro legalize every drug ever

if there is a drug abuser, our response should not be to label that person a criminal
that's just a little bit insane

and creating a dangerous underground market for this shit isn't a brilliant plan either

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim vs A Horse
« on: March 29, 2015, 09:07:54 PM »
nope

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bigthink has tons of interviews of people discussing all sorts of pressing topics, as well as more controversial viewpoints, so i don't find it surprising at all that they'd have some guy talking about legalization on their channel

not to mention, the majority of americans agree that marijuana ought to be legalized anyway, and i think it's been that way for a couple years now

anyway, i wouldn't consider legalization to be a "huge" win for civilization, just in the sense that we never should have criminalized it in the first place--sort of just the mentality of, we shouldn't pat ourselves on the back or be presented with some award for... undoing what we never should have done in the first place--i don't really consider that a victory in any sense

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it actually is though
LOL U MUST BE FUN AT PARTIES

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim vs A Horse
« on: March 29, 2015, 08:27:14 PM »
What you got against people who modify their bodies?
is that what i said?

no

i said that i hate body modifications
that doesn't mean i have anything against people who modify their bodies

i just hate body modifications

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim vs A Horse
« on: March 29, 2015, 08:20:43 PM »
yes, necessarily

especially considering i've been extremely vocal with my hatred of body modification

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim, do you want a thread made about you?
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:27:02 PM »
you won't

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim, do you want a thread made about you?
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:23:38 PM »
most likely

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim, do you want a thread made about you?
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:22:03 PM »
idc
Can I write a long fanfic gay love story about you and Trent Reznor?
you lack the talent

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim, do you want a thread made about you?
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:21:37 PM »
idc
If I was a girl, would you have protected sex with me?
most likely not

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim vs A Horse
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:20:57 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Verbatim, do you want a thread made about you?
« on: March 29, 2015, 06:17:16 PM »
idc

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:36:38 PM »
If you admitted that you're wrong, and that I'm not a genocidal maniac, I wouldn't respond with vitriol.
Literally everyone disagrees with you.

Oh, and I'd like an apology.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:34:02 PM »
Ignore the fact that you instigate in every single one of your responses, trying to get me banned, because you know I'll respond with insults.

Yeah, you should probably get banned for that. Permanently. Because that's all you ever do.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:22:08 PM »
I don't take kindly to being referred to as a genocidal maniac, when I'm not one. Simple as that.

I will defend myself.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:16:47 PM »
I guess I'm supposed to take kindly to being referred to as a genocidal maniac.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:08:21 PM »
Nineteen, kid.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:01:47 PM »
If it helps you sleep at night to believe that, kid.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:53:27 AM »
Whatever helps you sleep at night, kid.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:47:38 AM »
I'm gonna call you McCarthyX from now on.

Or maybe just demagogueX.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:17:38 AM »
threats to humanity.
You thinking of me as a threat makes my dick ROCK hard.

We're only a threat for as long as there is a reason to keep humanity around. Which there isn't.
And you're not gonna find one. And this isn't the thread to discuss it anyway. And I won't discuss it with you, of all people.

I just wanted to make that clear.

If there's no reason for humanity to be around, I'm about as much of a threat to humanity as a trash can is a threat to garbage.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 11:10:09 AM »
I really don't see how anti-natalism is genocide, given that it is entirely based on inaction, not the use of force, and is not intended to target a specific group. In fact, anti-nataliism and force are antithetical. Anti-natalism is a radical view where extreme value is placed on consent. You may not, in this mindset, make any decision for another person, even choosing to give them life. At least, as I understand it.
You are correct, and I thank you for this thread. It does my heart good to know that there's people out there who, if they don't straight-up agree with me, can at least see where I'm coming from and understand the position.

Rather than malign it blindly out of fear and cowardice, like VenomFangX challengerX here.

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Serious / Re: Kay so seriously, genocide
« on: March 28, 2015, 12:39:38 AM »
Anti-natalism from, say, a radical environmentalist mindset, could be genocidal. Say a group decides humans should die out because they encroach on natural habitats and pollute the earth. They sterilize themselves and begin forcibly sterilizing everyone else. This is pretty close to genocide.
I think I recall Verb saying that he believes abortions should be mandatory at some point. So that might qualify for the kind of thing you're talking about.
Not de jure, but de facto. If everyone was an anti-natalist, everyone would be okay with getting abortions anyway. Not to mention, everyone would be smart enough not to get each other pregnant in the first place.

So yes, that was an exaggeration.

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The Flood / Re: Do feminist go to bars?
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:41:57 PM »

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Serious / Re: Genocide and such
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:24:55 PM »
You are welcome to try and challenge this definition
i'm doing that right the fuck now.

Demonstrate to me how the current legal definition of genocide isn't a piece of fucking shit.
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How so?
Because there's no reason you would've brought it up if you didn't think that the philosophy's intentions fell under the legal definition of genocide.

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"Article 2 of the Genocide Convention:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;"[/i]

Ethnic cleansing intends the removal of a group, genocide its destruction.
I already contest the Genocide Convention, so you can't fucking regurgitate that shit at me. I say the Genocide Convention is wrong. Demonstrate to me how they're "not wrong". And don't just say it's because they're "respected" with "years of experience".

Explain to me, using LOGIC ALONE, why genocide doesn't have to involve murder.

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Serious / Re: Genocide and such
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:18:23 PM »
It's genocide.

Either way, you're for the extinction of humanity. There's nothing good about that no matter how you swing it.

Anti natalism is a death cult.
and you've been reduced to repeating the same shit over and over again, like the desperate loser that you are

You lose.

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Serious / Re: Genocide and such
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:13:26 PM »
You could send an entire ethnicity into space with a lifetime supply of sustenance and whatever else they need to survive out there, and that would also count as ethnic cleansing. But it wouldn't be fucking GENOCIDE, for fuck's sake. Not unless you sent them out in space without the proper equipment.

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Serious / Re: Genocide and such
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:11:48 PM »
Yes
thank you for completely ignoring my point

as i pointed out, "kill" in english can be used in various contexts as well

it can mean to end something's life
and it can also mean to end something in general

but using it in the second sense sounds REALLY fucking awkward
and most people don't use it unless they're saying something like "kill the lights"

you don't say "i killed my book last night"
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And for the record, I know that anti-natalism doesn't count as genocide.
you realize you just backtracked, then?
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Fair enough. You are welcome to disagree, it won't change a thing.
yes, i know it won't change the fact that they're retards--i know this
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Question though. What if a government would round up all members of a certain group (jews, gypsies, blacks...) and put them in prison, keeping them completely isolated from one another, with the specific and vocalized intent of ending this race / ehtnical group. They don't actually kill anyone, but they just keep them locked up and force them into labor and separation. A few decades down the line, the last member of this group will have died, and thereby this race / ethnical group seizes to exist because of what the government did to them. What would you consider this?
Ethnic cleansing.

Genocide involves murder. PERIOD.

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Serious / Re: Are you pro or con on these issues?
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:10:20 PM »
LOL, THE THREAD WAS SPLIT BEFORE HE WAS FINISHED TYPING UP HIS RESPONSE, SO IT WENT IN THE WRONG THREAD

SO FUNI

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Serious / Re: Are you pro or con on these issues?
« on: March 27, 2015, 07:05:21 PM »
All right, sorry, go ahead and move that post, too.

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