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40591
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:44:05 PM »
Okay, you know what? This is honestly frustrating me Verb. I've given my explanation, whether you like it or not is up to you. I'm done talking about this.
it's really not up to me in the sense that i operate on... logic? i don't get to decide how logic works it's not up to me to decide if your explanation works logicallyit just doesn't work logicallyinvasions are bad period--i used to be open to the possibility of that notion being wrong, but now i'm dead certain that it isn't i'm sorry it frustrates you, but really, the bottom line is liking invasions is wrong
40592
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:41:31 PM »
Its essentially drop in-drop out PVP. You don't even have to stop playing to search, it just throws the person in your game when he connects. Plus, if I haven't cleared an area, I have to be mindful of the AI as well. So I get a two front battle, which is even more fun. you're still not getting to the consent issue not everyone is willing to consent to getting fucked over especially me why isn't there a "FUCK YOU, CUNT" button that would really liven the experience for me better yet, implement a way to give the invader cancer or some shit yeah, that would be great does it have that feature
40593
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:37:31 PM »
They get x amount of souls for winning, or humanity, or whatever kind of item it is for the covenant they're in. well, they shouldn't you shouldn't get ANYTHING for fucking a player over and i was more asking why your shit is just... on the floor, ready to be picked up again what's the point sounds like shit design to me
40594
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:36:13 PM »
You asked why I like it, and I told you.
well, sorry, i don't think that's a good enough reason the game clearly has ways of "making you feel smart"--it doesn't need invasions to do that and if it does, then... bad game
40595
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:34:16 PM »
And I think you misunderstand something
The invader doesn't take your souls
They get dropped on the ground for you to pick back up
... HUH?what the fuck is the point of that, then?
40596
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:33:33 PM »
No, I wasn't. I was surprised, I admit, but I wasn't pissed. It was adrenaline pumping because every fight I had before that was against AI that could be beaten by just doing slash > back step > slash. For the first time in the game (at the time), I was fighting something that actually made me play smart.
well, i'll just say it outright, then--you were wrong for not being pissed off but that's not really the point anyway just because YOU are okay with being invaded doesn't mean other people are that doesn't make it a good feature that needs to stay in the game
40597
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:29:18 PM »
And you're assuming it pisses me off- it doesn't. you didn't get pissed off the first time you were ever invaded, nonconsensually, and lost your shit you weren't pissed off at that see, this is the problem
40598
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:25:57 PM »
that's like being stolen from, catching the thief, and then being like... "hey, i know you stole my shit, and that really pissed me off, but in hindsight, chasing you around was kind of fun--we should do this again sometime"
pbbtbtbhtthtbtbhh
40599
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:23:34 PM »
And make no mistake, I'm not trying to get you to like it. i'm not under that delusion--right now, i'm just trying to get you to explain why you don't mind it because i still don't understand you're calling red "blue", and it's just... ughghghgh Verb, please reread that first sentence. I like to be invaded . Meaning I'm consenting to invasion, and the invader is consenting to invade. I WANT to be invaded, otherwise I wouldn't hang around in major PVP zones and waiting for someone to take the bait. well, not everybody consents to it and you have a very loose definition of "consent" there if it's like in street fighter where you can create a lobby and have people join, then yeah, okay if it's not, that's not really consent--that's just you sort of accepting the fact that you're playing a game that doesn't have that which is consent, sure, but that's... asinine
40600
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:18:11 PM »
I enjoy PVP, so it goes without saying that I like being invaded? no... it doesn't pvp is fucking GREAT... ...if it's consensual i play street fighter--the game is purely pvp that's the point of the game but you can't "invade" people in that game so no, obviously, invading 1. is not a necessary part of a pvp experience 2. does NOT go without saying why anyone would enjoy it it's like saying, "i like getting raped--it goes without saying, i just like getting raped. no explanation needed" "i like being stolen from--it goes without saying why i would" ? ? ? ? ? 2) I never pay attention to messages unless it's pertinent like "ambush ahead"; if it's a lie I was cautious but still alive, if it's true I'm cautious but still alive. So really I'm not for or against it, it's just... there. i don't see anything to be neutral about, but whatever
40601
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:48:06 PM »
if you don't have a good reason to do something, you shouldn't do it
"because i enjoy it" is not a good reason
40602
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:45:45 PM »
Holy shit that's dumb
if you fail to demonstrate how or why i'm wrong then from what fucking sorcery should i contrive that i'm wrong "hating popular things is bad" "expressing unpopular opinions is bad" "challenging the popular opinion is bad" that's all you're saying
40603
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:44:07 PM »
no one has given me any reasons as to why they approve of it/don't disapprove of it
all anyone ever tries to do is tell me why i should think a different way
which would be fine, if it didn't make you look like you have no ground to stand on
40604
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:40:56 PM »
People shouldn't enjoy things I don't approve of
correct unless they can explain to me, through logic, why i should either 1. approve of it 2. not disapprove of it literally everyone on earth thinks like this i'm just more vocal about it
40605
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:34:03 PM »
it's not like i can force everyone else not to ring it, though
which is funny, because even if i could, i still wouldn't be happy because invasions would still technically be part of the fucking game and, no can't have it
40606
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:32:23 PM »
Stop disliking things I like
40607
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:31:11 PM »
it's not like i can force everyone else not to ring it, though and besides, you just said: If you want to summon someone but not he invaded? An NPC appears in your area ringing the sinister beckoning bell. Kill that enemy and nobody can come through. you'd have to do it if you wanted to summon somebody so yes, you do have to prevent it, if that's how you want to play the game and maybe that's how i'd want to play the game so that's bullshit--i shouldn't have to do that to prevent getting invaded and that's just kind of a nonsensical way to prevent invasions anyway, isn't it? how about having a fucking "do you want to allow invasions? YES/NO" prompt that's all they'd have to do--it still means that invasions are a part of the game, but it's better than having to kill an enemy
40608
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:27:16 PM »
maybe if they added an option to automatically send a message that reads "FUCK YOU, CUNT" to anyone who tries to invade you, i might be able to overlook it
but yeah, that's still assuming that i'd be able to tolerate the misleading messages--and i'm not
40609
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:22:06 PM »
exactly
i'm not sure you understand just how little i'm able to tolerate this kind of stuff
it should not be in the game
i don't wanna have to take measures to prevent invasions--there should be nothing to prevent in the first place
40610
« on: April 07, 2015, 03:44:34 PM »
LOL no
40611
« on: April 07, 2015, 03:43:52 PM »
i was only in for mewtwo, so
40612
« on: April 07, 2015, 03:29:24 PM »
seems a little convoluted
or at least, not something i'd want to keep having to do just to keep the fucktards out, when i don't think invasions should be a part of the experience in the first place
40613
« on: April 07, 2015, 02:19:07 PM »
Logically speaking then couldn't you that by agreeing to play this game you give consent to the stuff it puts out?
You choose not to play it. You don't give your consent. The players that do? They give consent. there's no contract if the game had a disclaimer at the very beginning that read, "WARNING: this is a game designed for depraved cunts, BY depraved cunts--if you don't like that, stop playing" then maybe that would logically follow it's not like i knew exactly what the game was gonna be like before i played it I was just making a suggestion to you because I suddenly realized nobody has ever brought up the argument before that dark souls has offline mode. i appreciate it, but don't worry, two people already have aria and raw rugar thanks for the offer, but until the option to invade players without their consent is removed entirely, as well as the ability to leave misleading messages, i will forever condemn this game
40614
« on: April 07, 2015, 02:07:44 PM »
And likewise From also added in the feature of offline so people who don't want to be fucked over have that choice. i'm saying that's not enough And in regards to nobody being fucked over. Whose to say some don't enjoy it? they're idiots they're fucking idiots what else can i say to that "would you appreciate getting fucked over?" "yes, i would" what what what what what It's like a submission/domination relationship between a couple in the bedroom. Or a masochist. You could argue that pain is something inherently made to be avoided. And yet there's masochists out there that enjoy that bite of pain. you know what else masochists like? consent you think you could punch any masochist in the face without warning, and they'll enjoy it? come on, get real An invader coming to fuck you over in a critical moment spikes excitement and adrenaline. Perhaps frustration if you panic and lose. Perhaps "I did it!" if you win. which is bogus--as if that's the only possible way to get excitement and adrenaline there's so many other ways that don't involve stupid shit
40615
« on: April 07, 2015, 01:49:45 PM »
Nope.
40616
« on: April 07, 2015, 01:45:48 PM »
either way, i already went over how it doesn't really solve the problem
...because it's still a feature of the game, regardless of whether i turn a blind eye to it
i'm not just concerned about me
nobody should get fucked over
40617
« on: April 07, 2015, 12:23:10 PM »
Stop trying to get Verb to play a game that he no like Ariaaaaa I'm not?
A LIKELY STORY
40618
« on: April 07, 2015, 12:10:07 PM »
The first game I played was in 2D.
The first thing that pops up into my mind when I read "video game" is a 2D video game.
If I played a 3D game first, that entire perception would be shattered. So it makes me shudder.
It would be like waking up left-handed.
Not that complicated, shithead.
40619
« on: April 07, 2015, 11:52:42 AM »
yeah, that tends to be the common accusation
40620
« on: April 07, 2015, 11:51:27 AM »
Because I started with a 2D game.
DURRRRR
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