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40111
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:54:46 AM »
When I did that I was just jesting. that's why i said "i'm just saying, i thought i'd talk about it anyway"
40112
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:44:05 AM »
you brought up dark souls so i decided to talk about it
40113
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:43:41 AM »
yeah, you're totally not missing the point at all
40114
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:36:26 AM »
i'm just saying, because that's an interesting point you bring up about that game
40115
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:30:45 AM »
you can talk about how in dark souls, i suck at the game because i got myself killed by the giant monster in the tutorial a bunch of times before i figured out that you were actually supposed to run away from it (which goes against all my gaming sensibilities)
i would argue that the game failed to convey what i had to do properly
there's a message below the monster's feet that instructs you to run away, and that's your only hint--and the only way to see the message is if you go near the fucking thing, which will result in your swift death
soooooooo
40116
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:26:10 AM »
to tie this discussion back to fighting games
daigo umehara is widely cited as one of the best street fighter players in the world
if you lose to daigo, someone who knows the game inside and out, that doesn't mean you suck at the game
he's just really good at the game, and you
are not as good
"suck" is just... i don't know, it technically means the same thing, but generally speaking, i'm just not a fan of putting down players for simply not knowing as much as i do about how a game works or not having the dexterity/reaction times/etc. required to play a fighting game at a high level
40117
« on: April 18, 2015, 10:15:17 AM »
my opinion is that you can't really be "bad" at video games
you can only be "better" or "worse"--relative terms
everyone plays differently, everyone learns differently, and so everyone is going to have their own unique experience
creating this notion of "suck" only serves to create a negative atmosphere, which is probably not a great plan
maybe "bad" means "worse than the majority of players", but that's sort of difficult to measure, so we just sort of casually toss it around to describe players who have a hard time doing X, which is a petty standard
"i did X on my firs try, so anyone who can't do X on their first try sucks"
40118
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:55:50 AM »
That's part of what makes people bad not really though i know the rules of chess, but i can't even beat the AI on chess titans i'm really not that good at chess--and i even know obscure rules, like the en passant and shit i see where you're coming from here, but i just think we're looking at it from different angles when i hear words like "suck", i think of an innate inability to do something if you suck, you can't get better, because you suck if you get better, it means you didn't suck--you just had a few hurdles to jump over
40119
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:49:00 AM »
She's not even actually naked though.
If she had glaring nipples and a cunt for the work to see, then sure, you'd actually have a point. if they could've gotten away with her having nipples and a visible labia, they certainly would have but that would be too overt--it would be extremely dangerous and controversial to do that so they made her as visually lewd as possible without being overtly contentious There doesn't need to be a reason for her being "naked".
Why did Michelangelo have naked women in his paintings? there actually is an answer to that, though nudity in renaissance-era art was often used as a way to convey that a particular figure is, in at least some respects, inhuman (that is to say, they're heroes/gods/demigods--they were more than human) for example, aphrodite is always depicted as nude because she's a goddess, and is above such earthly things such as clothing david was a biblical hero, and heroes, by their very nature, transcend the quotidian functions of man--and thus, michelangelo sculpted him in the nude, to show that he's a more perfect/virtuous being than the average man it would be silly to argue that we do the same thing today, in the hypersexualized, hyperconscious culture of the now
40120
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:36:47 AM »
it's like she's wearing the most skintight clothing ever, then
and if that's not sexualization, i don't know what the fuck is
40121
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:15:29 AM »
How? Because she's "naked"?
Yeah, no. That doesn't mean she's sexually objectifying. why is she naked here comes some bullshit story-related rationalization because anything is okay, as long as the story permits it!...
40122
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:14:23 AM »
To quote Atticus.
If you lose to youngster Joey's Rattata it's not because that battle was hard, it's because you suck. well, the only way you could lose at that fight is if two things were to happen 1. tackle missed, every single time (which isn't your fault) 2. you used your debuff attack instead, which doesn't mean you suck--you're just ignorant of how the game is played if you know how the game is played, it is literally impossible to lose to youngster joey
40123
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:05:01 AM »
♥ stephen fry
wasn't he supposed to have a debate with russell brand over this very subject
40124
« on: April 18, 2015, 09:02:56 AM »
Yes, but that doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. no, i don't think it's ever true if you suck at a game, there's likely a reason for it
40125
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:54:35 AM »
Have you ever seen a fucking woman? yes she's sexually objectified objectively A naked woman =/= sexual objectification good thing i never said that
40126
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:49:44 AM »
Compared to the previous Halo games, she's got the saggy grandma tits. Her tits in 2 and 3 were more busty while CE had them weird-ass Sigourney Weaver tits. i realize this slightly (SLIGHTLY) less sexualized =/= not sexualized at all
40127
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:43:05 AM »
-She doesn't have silicone pornstar tits like previous Cortana designs. except she does -She has natural looking wide hips as opposed to the stupidly slim previous Cortana designs. except she doesn't -She has a body size that any healthy weight woman would have. whatever so would any good sexualized character the examples are particularly egregious on the account of the fact that she's basically naked if she had clothes of some kind, and not skimpy ones, maybe she wouldn't be sexualized but she doesn't so she is objectively
40128
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:29:03 AM »
There is a difference.
A game being difficult is presenting the player a challenge they can overcome only with a lot of effort.
Being bad is unintentionally losing to Youngster Joey's Rattata. i know the difference, but it's not that black and white, is it
40129
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:26:57 AM »
Oh no. How dare things improve over time. How dare they make her look less like an exaggerated woman and more like realistic looking woman.
Asset improvements aren't suspicious at all.
Halo 4's Cortana is the least sexually objectifying next to Halo 1's Cortana (and that's only because of the age of the game). you keep saying that her halo 4 design is "realistic looking" and i just don't agree they may have tried, and that may have been their stated goal, but to me, they failed hard
40130
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:25:37 AM »
I have a blister on my thumb from Melee.
Holy fuck do we go hard at smash.
My characters of choice are Warrior and Peach.
Who's yours? Warrior? Who would that be? I played as Roy and Falco.
40131
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:21:31 AM »
to rephrase that first point, yes, there are feminists who have different opinions and perspectives on what counts as sexual objectification, and i have mine
feminists are not a homogeneous hive-mind of the same opinions echoed at each other forever
so if she disagrees, obviously, either
1. her view is faulty
2. my view is faulty
3. she doesn't factor character design into her feminism
and there are a lot of feminists who just don't give a fuck about how women are depicted in media
but i do
40132
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:15:33 AM »
Okay. That's nice.
Cortana's appearance isn't sexually objectifying women. The fucking studio head and general manager at 343 is a hard feminist. She wouldn't have agreed with Halo 4's Cortana design if she was a sexual objectification. unless she was an idiot are you denying that the studio head and general manager of 343 is an idiot How can you not comprehend that a realistic depiction of a woman isn't sexual objectification? because she didn't look anything like that at one point she was practically flat in halo 1 am i saying that women have to be flat in video games? no i'm saying you should be fucking consistent because it looks kinda fucking suspicious if you don't
40133
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:12:09 AM »
You know what they say about opinions. The only thing I'm seeing is you doing the usual "arguing for the sake of arguing." i'm arguing for the sake of defending my position you don't refer to me as a feminist disparagingly, as if being a feminist is a bad thing, and not expect to have an argument yes, i'm going to defend myself the only brick wall is lemon
40134
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:06:47 AM »
You're fucking adorable. let's assume my perspective is the objectively correct one why in the fuck would i not continue to argue about it how is that being a "brick wall" i'm fucking right, guy
40135
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:04:52 AM »
Being bad =/= the game being difficult. you realize you can make that accusation about any game, right what game do you find difficult? nah, you just suck at them
40136
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:03:08 AM »
ITT: Debating with an edgy brick wall.
Or I'm just right. There's always that.
40137
« on: April 18, 2015, 08:01:20 AM »
regardless of whether "a depiction of the female body does not equal sexual arousal" (whatever the fuck that means), what i just fucking said still stands women are sexualized because they think that's the only way men can be interested in a female character i hate having my sexuality exploited just so some dumbfuck game company can make a quicker buck as for the women's side, yes, sexually objectifying women is inherently insulting to women there is no getting around it how am i even remotely feminist?
do you think women should have equal rights? yes? then you're a feminist the end
40138
« on: April 18, 2015, 07:54:09 AM »
So are youu just ignoring everything everyone has said ITT?
A depiction of the female body =/= sexual arousal. so are you just ignoring everything i've said ITT i never said anything remotely similar to that lmao you're a fucking feminist and you're not? lol cunt
40139
« on: April 18, 2015, 12:54:07 AM »
Street Fighter III: Third Strike
Killer Instinct (original)
SoulCalibur II
Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
Super Smash Bros. Melee (though not technically a fighting game)
and to a certain extent, ultra street fighter iv
40140
« on: April 18, 2015, 12:17:13 AM »
i can use MS paint too
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