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39961
« on: April 20, 2015, 12:41:16 AM »
That's because they have addictions. Addictions to family, addictions to food, addictions to whatever. It doesn't justify the imposition. Nothing has any intrinsic value except for suffering.
39962
« on: April 20, 2015, 12:33:54 AM »
Obviously (I'm 20). And you're even younger than me. So what the fuck do you know? LOL I know that you've never had any sort of real suffering happen in your life. At all. Give it 30-50 years. You'll get yours. And then you can tell me how great life is then.
39963
« on: April 20, 2015, 12:26:52 AM »
I'm just making a guess clearly (but I guess you couldn't read that part), but there's no doubt that a far higher percentage than 0.000000001% of people are living enjoyable lives but that doesn't seem to be resonating well in your head.
You are yet again proving that you have no idea what you're talking about.
How old are you? Less than 30, I'd guess.
39964
« on: April 20, 2015, 12:22:18 AM »
That's a fucking retarded metaphor since the chance of you living an enjoyable life is far, far higher than the chance of winning a lottery. Say, 85-90% comparing to 0.000000001% chance. Where's your evidence that 85% of people enjoy life? And can you really trust people who say that they do?
39965
« on: April 20, 2015, 12:21:26 AM »
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I was talking more about the general capacity humans have to be happy. As in, not just me.
I agree that we don't live lives of such high quality that we're in danger of crossing into saccharine territory, but life gives you the opportunity to improve things for others and for yourself. And perhaps I am just an overly optimistic twit, but I do believe humanity is capable of treating itself of its self-destructive tendencies along with the other things that ail us that aren't so self-inflicted. I said this earlier, but I would just make the simple argument that happiness only comes at the cost of something. No one is ever happy for free, so to speak. Everything is indirectly sadistic in quality. Down to the food you eat. You know how many sentient creatures perish painfully at our hand just to put food on your plate? The hours of boredom and abuse the seamstresses that make your clothes endure? Everything you do has suffering attached to it down the line. I'm not saying you're not allowed to enjoy any of this stuff--if you didn't, it would be a colossal waste of the suffering. I'm just saying that I don't really buy the happiness argument when the suffering demonstrably outweighs any happiness. Unless you're going to try to argue that your food and your clothes are somehow worth all that suffering. You'd be wrong.
39966
« on: April 20, 2015, 12:16:11 AM »
If you think that life shouldn't be worth imposing just because they can't live some fantasy life 100% of the time, that's very delusional.
I can make a number of metaphors. If I stole all of your money and spent it all on lottery tickets with the INTENT of making you a profit, is that okay? Would you appreciate that? Would you appreciate it if I didn't win, and I lost you all of your money? Would you like that? What if I won? Would that make it okay?
39967
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:50:03 PM »
It's not delusional. Obviously, it's impossible to give your kid the perfect life.
That's why it can never be okay to give birth to one. To FORCE them into existence. To IMPOSE life on them.
It can only ever be wrong.
If you win the lottery, does that mean buying lottery tickets is a good idea?
FUCK no.
39968
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:47:24 PM »
And by the way, nobody's talking about what makes "life worth living".
What makes live worth living to you is YOUR business.
I'm talking about what makes life worth IMPOSING.
39969
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:45:22 PM »
Then on what basis do you assume that people suffer enough for life to not be worth living? You have to have some sort of reference point. I just FUCKING went over one. 1 in 5 persons have a disability in the US alone. Those are GODAWFUL odds. You think they're "pretty good" odds, which makes you an insane lunatic. But even then, I'm making the basic argument that you need a 100% safety rate, or bust. If there's ANY CHANCE WHATSOEVER of your kid not having the perfect life, then it's wrong to have the kid.
39970
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:42:26 PM »
So that's a 77% chance you won't be born with a disability or get cancer. And those are some really good odds honestly.
Wow. You are disgusting.
39971
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:36:43 PM »
And if you think that everyone suffers as much as you do, you're an even bigger moron. You're basing all of what you're saying on the false fact that everyone suffers as much as you do. Nope. It's not about me at all.
39972
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:36:17 PM »
Okay. I got an A on my test I didn't study for and expected a to receive a D in. You refuted yourself. You expected to receive a D. You wouldn't have been as happy if you did not first feel the stress and the dread of the potential D. It's the negative that makes the positive feel so good. It's a flawed and broken system that shouldn't be imposed on anybody. hurr life isn't worth it since people can discover they have cancer Correct. Go ahead and pretend like cancer isn't a very real thing. 5% of people living in the US alone are living with some form of cancer. 5%. And that's just cancer. 20% people in the US have some type of disability. That's one out of every five people. And you think it's okay to take that risk and impose that on somebody. Fuck you.
39973
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:30:59 PM »
Being happy? Your happiness doesn't justify all the terrors that exist in the world. Not in the slightest. If you think that's a good enough reason to have a kid, you're a moron.
39974
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:29:38 PM »
Well at least you admit it. Typo, obviously. I never used it incorrectly. Not once. By explaining to you exactly what it is. You never did that. Because it is if you're not over thinking it in an attempt to nit pick Which is exactly what you did. Posting about post count, as if it matters, is ironic. You lose. Get over it.
39975
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:25:41 PM »
Pleasure, happiness, joy, discovery, creativity, satisfaction are some to name. Pleasure, happiness, joy, and satisfaction are all basically the same exact thing. And they are filed under addiction. You can't get pleasure without getting your "fix" of something, so to speak. There is no free pleasure. All pleasure comes at the cost of something negative. All of it. No matter how small. Discovery isn't positive. You can DISCOVER that you have pancreatic cancer. That's not a positive discovery. It certainly doesn't make life worth imposing just to discover things. Creativity isn't necessarily positive either. The nuclear bomb was made by extremely creative/inventive people, but as it turns out, nuclear bombs are actually one of the most evil inventions ever. Even so, looking at all the positive creativity there is, it still does not outweigh the level of suffering endured by all sentient beings in some form or another. It can't justify the holocaust, as it were.
39976
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:14:06 PM »
Well umm
You see you never gave a simple example for me to over think. You just told me I didn't know what irony was while using the word irony incorrectly. This is that last word thing that you always do again though so I'm not sure why I even bothered to type this up.
I never used the word irony correctly. You displayed your ignorance over what irony is. You think that it's ironic if a professional driver dies in a car crash. That's breath-taking ignorance. You're a terrible admin.
39977
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:11:06 PM »
No it isn't. Describe what we do that makes life worth imposing on other sentient beings. You will fail.
39978
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:10:46 PM »
Because things haven't improved since we figured out how to bash each other's heads in with largish rocks, right? Not much, no.
39979
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:53:20 PM »
over think a simple example Kinda like you in the very beginning, huh? You lose.
39980
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:42:12 PM »
and you have no evidence to the contrary
consumption, reproduction, cannibalism, and addiction
those are the four ingredients of life
there is nothing else
cannibalism in the sense that life forms eat other life forms
not literal cannibalism
39981
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:39:56 PM »
except it's not an assumption
39982
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:33:45 PM »
So lemme get this straight. You plan on never leaving your state, ever? That's depressing. 1. never said that 2. how is it depressing Spending your time on internet forums is pointless no it isn't Lets say you get invited on a free cruise, say by the company you work for or something: you wouldn't take it? That's depressing. why wouldn't i take it you don't have to swim on a cruise Either way, they're just examples. There are a ton of examples where you experience bodies of water, unless you plan on your life staying the same for the rest of time. Regardless of whether or not it actually saves your life, I'd recommend trying something beyond basic swimming lessons: it's a shitload of fun. not really
39983
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:31:11 PM »
what i described is not a "chronically depressed blob of shit", by the way
i summarized the entire human condition in two terms
people consume, and people suffer
that's pretty much ALL we do
39984
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:26:42 PM »
So, you'd rid a being of the chance for happiness, on the assumption that it's only ever going to amount to being a chronically depressed blob of shit? it's not an assumption; it will happen that's been the process for all 100 billion humans thus far even then, it's still probably not okay to gamble with another sentient being's welfare because sure, maybe your kid will get lucky and have an awesome life but maybe he won'tand that mere possibility alone should give you pause you should think, "hmm, maybe we are being a little too reckless about this procreation thing"
39985
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:20:30 PM »
:/
39986
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:18:02 PM »
Are you ever happy? bursts
39987
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:17:34 PM »
he could always shoot the volcano with a shrink gun
or call it a cunt that was a sick meme your memes are out of control tonight
39988
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:11:49 PM »
my favorite color is OH MY GOD BITCH
39989
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:09:31 PM »
look, if you like to swim, great
i don't see myself ever needing to swim
it's useless to me
that's all i'm saying
39990
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:05:39 PM »
irritating night
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