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The Flood / Re: Think of 12 users before entering.
« on: May 04, 2015, 09:04:54 AM »
I anticipated some stupid joke, so I didn't think of any.

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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 04, 2015, 08:40:16 AM »
That has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of Marvel movies and does nothing to refute any of his claims.
yes it does
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Also considering that you dismiss entire artistic mediums based on rather superficial things
no i don't

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"slang" is slang for "shortened language"

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The Flood / Re: itt: post shit you have that you bet others dont
« on: May 03, 2015, 10:53:34 PM »
Personality

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The Flood / Re: Tropes you despise
« on: May 03, 2015, 10:44:15 PM »
When a cool character shows up during a show, only to never make a reappearance in the future. Not sure if there's a TV Tropes trope for it.

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The Flood / Re: Tropes you despise
« on: May 03, 2015, 10:32:24 PM »
Mary Sues.
Wat
"Woe is me, I'm so miserable." characters that are pushed along through a plot like little angels.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh
YouTube

nooo, that's not really what it is

a mary sue is someone who seems too pristine for the audience to give a fuck
like... augustus waters from the fault in our stars

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The Flood / Re: Tropes you despise
« on: May 03, 2015, 10:30:18 PM »
Mary Sues.
forgot that one

but i mean, eh, no one likes a mary sue

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The Flood / Re: Tropes you despise
« on: May 03, 2015, 10:29:25 PM »
Oh, here we go.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanservice
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Gainaxing
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotterAndSexier
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Laconic/Stripperiffic
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AgeInappropriateDress
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuxomIsBetter
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GagBoobs
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MsFanservice
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Badass
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoYay
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumongousMecha
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanon
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier (when done poorly)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadHorseTrope (of course)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TitleDrop (when done poorly)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreakingTheFourthWall (unless done well)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Moe
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreDakka
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MundaneMadeAwesome
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AesopAmnesia
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BagOfSpilling
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusExMachina
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LaserGuidedAmnesia

An easy way to say it is this:
Any trope associated with the character Yoko Littner is a trope that I absolutely abhor.

Plus a few others. And many more that I'm likely forgetting.

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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 03, 2015, 10:11:16 PM »
ghost in the shell is one of the greatest pieces of scifi to ever grace the world of art
spoken like a true pretentious weeb

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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 03, 2015, 09:00:28 PM »
It was great. My only complaints would be that I don't think this movie should had to set up half the movies in phase 3 and I thought they went a little overboard with the humor in this one, but maybe that was just due to the atmosphere of the Thursday night premiere crowd. I'd like to see it again and see if it's still a problem. I loved everything else so overall I'd probably rate it a 8/10.
I had the opposite impression--there wasn't more or less humor than in the first Avengers movie, and a lot of the jokes fell flat for me this time.

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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:58:13 PM »
is marvel impervious to criticism from you people

like really. they cant come up with a decent villain or a conflict that actually feels important. characterization is lost beyond basic interactions. it's a gilded turd. pretty to look at, nothing worthwhile underneath.
you liked ghost in the shell, guy

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The Flood / Re: Rum vs Beer
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:40:45 PM »
teetotalism master race

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The Flood / Re: ITT: Post good beers.
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:39:53 PM »
There is no such thing as a good beer.

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Most likely a third party, as always.

#WasteMyVote
#Integrity

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The Flood / Re: So this one guy comes into a bar...
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:36:11 PM »
a skeleton walks into a bar
Spoiler
he asks for a beer
Spoiler
and a mop

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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »
Spoiler
Thor's hammer isn't heavy, it's magical and prevents those it deems unworthy from lifting it.  Vision lifted it because he was pure and has no ill intentions, or something along those lines.
Ah, that's right.
Still a cool scene.

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I'd still say Thor's Hammer is pretty heavy on its own, though <_<


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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:23:41 PM »
OH. And I was super impressed with how they didn't sexualize Scarlet Witch at all. Always a plus.

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The Flood / Re: >people giving AoU 6/10 reviews
« on: May 03, 2015, 08:19:58 PM »
Just came back. Enjoyed it. I'd say it's about on par with the last film.

Favorite Avenger is still Hawkeye, even though I really had to stretch my imagination to make sense of the fact that he is at all capable of holding his own against Ultron with just his arrows.

I thought they introduced way too many new superheroes in this one, and it makes sense that
Spoiler
they would kill off Quicksilver, because otherwise, that's just a fuck-ton of characters to keep track of. It sucks that that's probably the only real reason, though.

I wasn't digging the Bruce/Natasha romance scenes.

My favorite scene was when they're all at the party, and they're all trying to pick up Thor's hammer, and none of them can do it.
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Turns into a beautiful Chekhov's Gun/Brick Joke much later, where this new Avenger (I don't know his name, because they never do name him) is created, and after explaining his purpose, he nonchalantly picks up Thor's hammer and passes it to a bemused Thor. You know, to show us how powerful he is. That was cool.

Overall, 7/10.

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The Flood / Re: If you could be any food
« on: May 03, 2015, 04:17:50 PM »
what kind of drink would you be?

I'd go with water because its the most widely used
whore

never mind someone already did that joke

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It's safe to say capitalism works the best when you are taking human nature into account.
part of me wants to believe that we're not all just selfish pieces of shit deep down, though

we're very capable of transcending our nature

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i don't know anything about venezuela

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So Verbatim, if capitalism is so full of "teh evulz", what other system do you propose? Something that wouldn't work in reality, I'd imagine.
socialism

didn't work in the past =/= can't ever be done correctly

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At least give me time to respond.
i'm not blaming you, i'm just saying, it's sort of silly to pretend as though i've been "REKT" when the one question that i'm asking hasn't yet been adequately answered

and by "adequately answered", i mean i should be a capitalist by the end of this conversation
I'm not sure how to elaborate further.
exactly, right

i mean, i'm not gonna sit here and tell you that i know how it would work, either, but one's own inability to understand something does not necessitate any sort of argument against it

"You can't price things meritoriously; it doesn't even make sense. "

maybe to you and i
but to say that it can't be done because a couple of teenagers are unable to grasp it is simply myopic

this is something i've discussed with aria before, but it was only under the token that all the world's commodities and resources are infinite

so, if you work for a week, you earn a week's worth of food--i think that's pretty simple, and i fail to see how that kind of system wouldn't work even with finite resources

the informational deficits you speak of diminish when you take animal products out of the equation
if anyone has allergies to any of the food provided, there would be alternatives
what informational deficits are there
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The economy operates on productivity, not merit.
productivity is inherently meritorious
but only if it's, you know, actually productive--you have to use that word carefully and precisely

saving cancer patients is productive; making a new ipad with 1 or 2 new redundant features is not

no matter how many drooling idiots want that ipad, it's never gonna be worth it
saving sick people is worth it 99.99% of the time
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Depends on the model you're using; but put simply it's a growth in our ability to convert inputs to outputs.
that was a rhetorical question; i know precisely what productivity growth is
and i was saying that it's kind of oxymoron, in the way that we define our productivity

because the new iPad really isn't that much different from the previous model
maybe it's a little bit lighter, i don't know

and people will spend hundreds of dollars on them by the tens of millions

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What makes you the arbiter of "worth" in this situation? If you don't like a product, you're free to not buy it and to persuade others why they shouldn't buy it.
of course, but you see, that's missing the point

it's not that i'm the arbiter of value--i just don't think you're going to be able to argue that a cancer patient is worth less than your iPad

you cannot believe in an objective morality if you don't have an objective system of values, can you
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But it's exactly this system of free consumer demand which means we aren't living off the land with no time for philosophy, literature, art or anything else of higher value than a new iPad.
perhaps, but now we don't have to live off the land anymore

we've built civilization, and the only reason it would collapse if capitalism were to end is because people are greedy, selfish, petty cunts
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(part of the evil of capitalism is that it's self-sustaining, like a cancer)
Except it isn't; capitalism will end itself eventually. Capitalism is unsustainable in the very long run precisely for the reason that it's too innovative.

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Which is a monopoly. Which is very rarely a function of capitalism.
which is just the thing
monopolies aren't inherently bad--they're only bad once they start abusing their position

a polypoly (or whatever you'd call it) is WORSE, in my opinion, because we start wasting resources on redundant products--this video game console thing is a good example

does there really need to be three consoles on the market
why don't we just have one console and improve upon that model

oh, it's because people are greedy cunts... that's right
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Yeah, and I think they're all retarded. But, again, you're misapplying something as being a function of capitalism; people are loyal about all manner of things from sports to skin colour. It's a fairly common cognitive bias, regardless of whatever economic system you have set up.
so why exploit it further

i don't think i said this, in particular, was a function of capitalism--merely that those are the type of people that capitalism breeds

which is a fact
we breed mindless consumers who "pick sides"
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Which is a function of protectionism, which absolutely isn't a function of capitalism. I agree that people who go on about 'muh domestic industry' don't know what they're talking about.
fair enough
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Knowledge and information is becoming ever more important in the modern economy; it's not surprising that younger people are therefore somewhat disadvantaged.
>somewhat disadvantaged

a little bit glib, coming from someone who hasn't quite made it to that point yet
but i guess it's better than saying we're not disadvantaged
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There's no moral principle which dictates people must have a home.
i look at it as compensation for being born
i didn't ask to be here, meta--i'm only here because a couple of fucknuts thought it would be a good idea

and it's been the same for all one hundred billion of us

i think we're entitled to some form of compensation in the form of a comfortable life
and yeah, having a home is one of the must-haves

call it a "trailer park", i don't give a shit, it's the same idea

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It's a broken system because people don't like what you like?
No, what I like has nothing to do with it. I like video games, but I'm still able to make the basic concession that it would be better to donate to a good cause than it would be to waste money on a game. All capitalism does is make us spoiled brats with mixed priorities. Just because you see the stupidities of brand loyalty doesn't change the fact that there's millions of brand loyalists, and they wouldn't be brand loyalists if there was no such thing as a "brand" to begin with.

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I'm not claiming the outcomes are always as efficient as possible
It should be, though. That's my argument. If your system isn't always as efficient as possible, it's a broken system. That's the very definition of brokenness. If something is inefficient, it's broken.
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I'm saying the system of pricing and resource allocation is more efficient than any other system you could name.
But not one that I could imagine.

Hell, it's why I support policies like the EITC which subsidise low wages.
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It does. It's why the capitalist systems in the world are the most innovative, it's why capitalism has been the most productive system in human history. Competition works.
I don't think anyone said it didn't work. It just doesn't work well. Or, well enough, I should say. It's inefficient. Socialism, from all that I've read about it, just seems so much better in theory.

And by the way, I fail to see how giving everyone the right to a comfortable home (without mortgage, of course) isn't socialism, or at least, an example of it in practice.

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STFU don't copy me, try to be original for once
STFU don't copy me, try to be original for once

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"he didnt even reply to my last post"
HURRRRR
It was massively implied you dolt
except it wasn't

you said i got "wrecked"

which implies not only that he "won", but he "WRECKED" me

one basic, easily rebutted response does not constitute getting "wrecked"
sorry

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You really are delusional enough to think that the lack of a reply means you win
is that what i said?

No

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