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38971
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:32:25 PM »
What if I recycled it in a specialized food receptacle like I did with my double meat feast extra pepperoni pizza last night?
If you're recycling it, then it's going to be reused in some way. So hopefully it does.
38972
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:28:20 PM »
I'm actually baffled at how ignorant and stubborn you are. Yeah, you're trolling.
Yeah, you got me.
Thanks.
38973
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:26:31 PM »
I would chime in my opinion but I don't think I'm in the mood for an autistic vegan sperg out.
All I'm gonna say is I like eating meat both because I like it, and it pisses of sanctimonious vegans with sticks up their arses, yourself being a prime example.
Except I've expressed twice in this thread that eating meat isn't really the problem. If you're eating meat, it means you're not wasting it. The only way you could ever actually piss a vegan off is if you wasted the food. That would make you an evil cunt.
38974
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:22:37 PM »
I'm actually baffled at how ignorant and stubborn you are. Yeah, you're trolling.
38975
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:21:21 PM »
If we we're to ever as an entire species to stop eating meat we would have to euthenise metric Fuck-tons of cows and other farm animals to stop some ridiculous environmental disasters including overabundance of CO2 and overpopulation and overgrazing or a combination of all. In the end everything dies and this whole "morality of killing sentient life" thing comes back and sucker punches you in the face.
Or better yet, in triggers climate change. Have fun being a vegan in the next Ice Age or when the heat ruins our ability to produce enough crops for everyone.
We would also need to massively increase the amount of crops that we produce. In fact we would have to bring new crops to different places that they were not ....remember the last time we over-saturated the land with crops they couldn't sustain?
it want fun for the Cows either
can you say "slippery slope" provide hard evidence that all of this stuff would DEFINITELY happen if we stopped eating animals
38976
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:13:30 PM »
Except the plant isn't getting a boner.
It's flinching after being prodded. i can name a fuckton of inanimate objects that flinch after being prodded, for fuck's sake that's kinda what happens when you prod at things
38977
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:11:47 PM »
If I poke your eye and you flinch, that's a response to stimuli. This same reasoning was used to say animals didn't feel pain.
Fancy wording will get you nowhere.
except not all stimuli necessitates pain when i look at a pair of tits, and my dick rises, that's a response to a stimulus and i can for dead certain tell you that there's no pain involved in that process at all
38978
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:59:39 PM »
tfw you try to take part in a debate and verb-sama ignores jew
I mean, you said you weren't trying to be pedantic, but that's exactly what you were being, so I didn't really feel any need to respond...
38979
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:58:41 PM »
Response to stimuli =/= subjective experience of pain.
I think he's just trolling at this point.
38980
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:49:47 PM »
]they wouldn't have to change anything you would if you didn't want to be a hypocrite, or a worthless piece of shit
38981
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:39:12 PM »
I'm puzzled by the users who are lurking this thread just so they can like the posts that reinforce their views. Why not lay those views on the table and be willing to think critically about them? Why are so few people willing to have an intelligent, open-minded dialogue about this issue?
well, like you said, most of them probably know that they're wrong deep down, but they don't want to be told that because if they admitted it, they'd have to change their lifestyle, and that would be too inconvenient
38982
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:37:40 PM »
Yes.
They can feel pain and have memory.
Prove it. Memory is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is if they can feel pain, which they can't.
38983
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:19:42 PM »
Plants can suffer too man. nope
38984
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:18:40 PM »
So do that mean we have to start putting cats and dogs in jail too?
That or they die from the change of diet.
*sips tea*
jesus christ you really can't figure out that humans are smarter than cats and dogs, and therefore can make the logical decision not to kill animals? you're basically saying that we should behave like stupid fucking animals instead of using our BRAINS
38985
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:03:09 PM »
because blades of grass aren't sentient, and basically every single animal that we eat is sentient
they have agency
they have a capacity to suffer and to feel pain
that matters
38986
« on: May 12, 2015, 07:57:43 PM »
The point is that's something you take when you have a deficiency. And if you have a deficiency because of your diet, then your diet is terrible. then i'll live with a terrible diet as long as its ethical as long as its the right thing to do
38987
« on: May 12, 2015, 07:35:48 PM »
never needed to
38988
« on: May 12, 2015, 07:27:55 PM »
For how long have you been eating like this?
Because studies show you guys need supplements and you really can't substitute meat. as of next month, a year
38989
« on: May 12, 2015, 07:11:02 PM »
Have you been to the doctor? What does he/she say about your health?
What's your diet consist of? whatever i can find, really i eat a lot of grains and fruit, and imitation meat if i'm in the mood i seem to be getting around just fine
38990
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:57:33 PM »
i don't, personally
38991
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:54:41 PM »
The point is nobody kills and eats us.
We have to destroy life to eat. Whether it's an animal or a plant, it's all precious life were cutting short for our own needs.
That's just how it is. It's not a very nice way to live, and when I stip and actually think about the animal I just ate, it's fucked up. But we need to kill other living beings to live. There's no two ways about it.
i agree with you, 100% we have to kill living things to live but 3.2% of the american population can attest that you don't need meat, specifically, to survive
38992
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:43:30 PM »
I'm the same age as you.
And I put words in my mouth. i've said it before, but as far as i'm concerned, you're a kid until you're thirty it doesn't matter that you're the same age as me
38993
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:41:08 PM »
and yes, i do believe you can be a philosophical vegan
that is to say, a vegan who advocates veganism, but is not necessarily a vegan him or herself
i used to be one of these people, and i remember you taking issue with that back on bnet
but i maintain that it's acceptable to be a non-vegan as long as you don't condone meat-eating
38994
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:39:51 PM »
don't waste your time with lemon
a kid who thinks pre-ordering video games is a bigger issue than the suffering of sentient creatures
I think he understands well enough.
how do you figure if people truly understood the impact of what they are doing, if people really understood what it means to be killed and eaten, everyone would be a vegan if not by action, than by philosophy
38995
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:28:16 PM »
don't waste your time with lemon
a kid who thinks pre-ordering video games is a bigger issue than the suffering of sentient creatures
38996
« on: May 12, 2015, 06:02:59 PM »
Derp. Yeah.
Edit:
Wait, no, that's exactly what I meant to say.
Don't confuse me.
Given the choice between killing the world with CO2 pollution and slaughtering animals for food, I would pick killing the world with CO2 pollution. At least then, everyone dies, and when everyone dies, there won't be anyone to take care of anymore.
That's just my efilism speaking.
38997
« on: May 12, 2015, 05:57:51 PM »
I should've said "Key to a better understanding of reality" or something to that effect. Oh, okay, that's not as stupid. It's even DUMBER. Wow, guy.
38998
« on: May 12, 2015, 05:52:11 PM »
Either way, I'd rather "kill the world with CO2 pollution" than kill animals for our gain. MUCH rather.
38999
« on: May 12, 2015, 05:51:16 PM »
Can anyone answer me what will happen with all those cows that will be set free? Verb said their population will somehow decrease more to whereas they are getting culled.....that not goof logic doe.
Vergans may just kill the world with CO2 pollution.
Prove it.
39000
« on: May 12, 2015, 05:14:54 PM »
Nihilism is fucktarded.
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