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38941
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:49:09 AM »
and you know all of life? I know enough about life to know that it's not worth imposing on other sentient life forms.
38942
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:47:57 AM »
Does someone want to explain to me how me accounting for the suffering of ALL LIFE ON EARTH means that I'm just complaining about my own life? Please?
Because that sounds absolutely fucking retarded to me.
38943
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:43:46 AM »
jesus you're pathetic, you're literally living in one of the best possible positions on the planet, and you want to talk about how hard your life is? I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD ALL LIFE IS, YOU FUCKING MORON. Why the fuck would I complain about MY life? I'm complaining about LIFE IN GENERAL.
38944
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:41:36 AM »
I never said anything about "the destruction of the entire universe".
I'm talking about the extinction of the human race--and better yet, the extinction of all life.
Because life is broken.
And you are the exalted one who gets to be the final judge of this, how exactly?
Because nobody has presented a better solution.
38945
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:40:07 AM »
This isn't the fucking subject of the thread, by the way.
38946
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:37:39 AM »
I never said anything about "the destruction of the entire universe".
I'm talking about the extinction of the human race--and better yet, the extinction of all life.
Because life is broken.
38947
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:36:20 AM »
you're foolish enough to blame the universe for your problems I'm blaming humanity for humanity's problems, you stupid fuck. It's not that difficult to understand. Suffering is the worst goddamn thing in the universe, and sentient beings all over the planet suffer every single minute of our lives. And you're going to pretend like there's some silver lining, or that there's a justification for it. No, there isn't. You're clearly the problem because everyone else seems to enjoy life and love what they do in life. Everyone else is a deluded, blind, and retarded motherfucking piece of worthless shit.
38948
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:14:22 AM »
suffering is needed in order for us to truly value what the good times bring us Which is bad. That's the problem. That's what I want to end. Living in a reality where you need to suffer to value "the good times" is fucking retarded, and no one should have to live through it.
38949
« on: May 13, 2015, 12:12:55 AM »
I offered the solution to the suffering of animals for food earlier by offering the choice of killing the animals in a painless and humane way, and you said it would be still be immoral because we are still killing them.. Because you wouldn't be killing them for a good reason. Feeding your fat face is not a good reason. There are alternatives. If you're going to kill someone, or everyone, you need a good reason. I have the best possible reason.
38950
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:59:48 PM »
>says the one who literally wants to kill EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. At once, painlessly, for the pragmatic purpose of ending all suffering. Yes. That's not psychopathic. It would only be psychopathic if 1. i wasn't doing it for any pragmatic purpose 2. i wanted to inflict pain
38951
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:53:07 PM »
What would you rather be? A normal human being, or a good human being? A rational human being?
38952
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:23:07 PM »
Tell me, what is natural in ignoring millenia of evolution?
Tell me, what is ethical in ignoring the place you have cultivated in the ecosystem?
You have a very sad and shallow view of the world.
Those who believe there is a way for all to prosper, inevitably fail.
The better part of compromises end in mediocrity and pointlessness for all sides.
If man were meant to be peaceful we would've evolved into pond scum.
It is our responsibility to kill. Not only to kill our prey, but also each other.
I won't require you to eat meat.
If you don't have the stomach for death, that's fine, go lie in a pond until you devolve into scum.
Do not however, insist for a second that your ambitions in veganism are fuelled by anything other than you own weakness, and certainly do not think that you have any place in telling others that they should lie around and devolve into pond scum with you.
Yeah, you're not a fucking crazy psychopath at all.
38953
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:13:32 PM »
Somebody killing themselves usually puts suffering on those who were close with the deceased, so to someone who wants to end all suffering, I assume that's the complete opposite of what he wants.
Just putting my two cents in
not to mention, i can't be an advocate for anything that i believe in if i'm fucking dead
38954
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:06:32 PM »
Uhh apparently killing yourself does solve at least one thing that you want.
*sips tea* no it doesn't it solves zero things that i want i don't want anyone to kill themselves
38955
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:03:40 PM »
There will be no more sentient enjoyment. So what? Why does there need to be? kill yourselves that wouldn't solve anything
38956
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:00:27 PM »
You sir, are actually retarded.
GREAT argument
38957
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:52:42 PM »
Yo're not going to make anything better by killing everything If everyone is dead, there can be NO MORE sentient suffering. That's definitely better.
38958
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:49:26 PM »
Especialy after Verb just made this thread almost impossible to take seriously anymore with his "I want destroy the world" nonsense
No, what I want to do is end suffering. And you're not going to end suffering by being a meat-eater.
38959
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:45:57 PM »
Not to mention we already have alternatives for almost every animal product there is.
Unhealthy alternatives which are bad for your physical and mental health.
And yet, they're not imposing harm on other sentient beings. Ignoring for the moment that what you're saying is bullshit, of course. Troll.
38960
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:40:59 PM »
There's no point in ending suffering if there is nothing to enjoy. yes there is a lack of suffering can only be a good thing and while pleasure is good, the lack of pleasure isn't bad I'd rather go through life suffering just as long as I has a bit of something to be happy in. i call that "insane"
38961
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:37:22 PM »
So let me get this strait. Verbatim wants everybody to stop eating meat becasue it's immoral to eat meat becasue killing is wrong, and his end solution to killing is to kill everything and everyone....
Did someone slam their head against a wall a bit too to hard after finishing Mass Effect 3?
killing isn't wrong
killing for no good reason is wrong
ending all suffering is a good reason to kill everyone
though "kill" really is a poor word to use, because it has violent connotations, which i have no intentions of violence i would euthanize everyone
38962
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:35:24 PM »
So let me get this strait. Verbatim wants everybody to stop eating meat becasue it's immoral to eat meat becasue killing is wrong, and his end solution to killing is to kill everything and everyone....
Did someone slam their head against a wall a bit too to hard after finishing Mass Effect 3?
killing isn't wrong killing for no good reason is wrong ending all suffering is a good reason to kill everyone
38963
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:34:02 PM »
We use our brains first and foremost to survive not anymore survival really isn't much of an issue for people living in the cozy first world you CERTAINLY don't need to eat meat to survive Plus I thought you said animals were all equally sentient and aware, that dog really just wants that juicy ass.
sentient =/= sapient humans are not only sentient, but they are sapient that means they can perform logic they can think critically and problem solve we create complex languages and we use those languages to express complex ideas except you, apparently
38964
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:23:11 PM »
But that's only if I was given those two choices and nothing else.
If I had a red button that ended all life on the planet painlessly and instantaneously, I would obviously press that button before I'd kill everyone with CO2...
38965
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:19:09 PM »
just so long as nobody had a burger. Don't act like that's the only human travesty there is. It's a pretty colossal portion of it, but not the entire thing.
38966
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:15:48 PM »
Everyone dies. That's the result.
I don't see what's so bad about that, especially as an anti-natalist, where the end goal is basically human extinction anyway.
38967
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:00:24 PM »
Either way you are not ready to have a sophisticated discussion on this topic.
38968
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:38:06 PM »
I don't think I could ever give up pepperoni pizza or ice cream.
Yeah, you could. I thought the same thing before I became a vegan. Only, I never liked pizza.
38969
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:37:15 PM »
So you're telling me not to assume despite the fact that you just assumed I hadn't read the thread? You obviously didn't. And if you did, you didn't comprehend any of it.
38970
« on: May 12, 2015, 09:34:07 PM »
jk i put that shit straight in the garbage just like where your opinions belong Angry meat-eating autist.
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