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37831
« on: June 01, 2015, 03:28:43 PM »
Fuck coffee.
37832
« on: June 01, 2015, 03:26:48 PM »
People are going to get hype over some shit that I could give fuck all about.
37833
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:04:53 PM »
we're all aware
37834
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:03:33 PM »
37835
« on: June 01, 2015, 03:48:46 AM »
Big Daddy was easily Adam Sandler's best movie.
click, actually
37836
« on: June 01, 2015, 03:06:47 AM »
I gotta say Megami Tensei, even though I just sort of got into it. Very intriguing franchise. Very unwelcoming, too. All those stories and you chose the weebiest.
Just what happens when you have weeb friends, I suppose...
37837
« on: June 01, 2015, 02:40:19 AM »
Seems like good background music. I can't imagine sitting down and listening to something like this for the hell of it, though.
37838
« on: June 01, 2015, 01:50:03 AM »
37839
« on: June 01, 2015, 01:02:17 AM »
It's really easy to distinguish Verb and Pendulate:
Verb calls you a cunt
Pendulate calls you a cunt indirectly
:^) my message is blunt pendulate's message is barely legible under nuanced text ayy
37840
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:56:12 AM »
You can easily overcomplicate a simple topic.
That's what happened here. you can always, like, leave if it's too much for you especially if you're not gonna add anything of use to the current discussion that's what happens when the main participants are two barely distinguishable edgy brick walls >barely distinguishable all i know about pendulate is that he's a vegan that's literally the only similarity we have that i know of you wanna stop trying to stir shit, or?
37841
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:50:52 AM »
Just like on b.old. Night Flood is best Flood.
37842
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:46:09 AM »
then you're a scumbag
37843
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:40:12 AM »
every time i do, it makes me laugh
37844
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:37:32 AM »
Alright, guys, no gays, bisexuals, or pansexuals in the military. They'd wanna fuck all the other guys. I've never seen a gay guy hound another man like men do with women, ever. I know that's anecdotal, but... I mean, I don't think it's that wild a conclusion to draw.
37845
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:35:03 AM »
I've already stated that I'm not going to discuss veganism itself; it may be touched upon as related to the subject, but it is otherwise irrelevant. You asked whether hunting for food or sport was more ethical. Whether or not killing it is ethical is not the focus; if that was your intention, then the OP was either poorly worded or very underhandedly sanctimonious.
Well, hunting and killing are inextricably intertwined, no? We're invariably dealing with the killing of living organisms here. Therefore, you have to look at the question from the standpoint of, "Which of these two causes justifies the killing more (if at all)?" That's how I looked at it, anyway.
37846
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:27:42 AM »
I don't know, though. I derive some pleasure from our little good-cop-bad-cop routine.
37847
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:27:11 AM »
Also, it only took 250 posts to get a good discussion going. Is that a new record around here?
Yes.
37848
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:18:40 AM »
Your hypothetical insists that it's either a or b; the truth of the matter is that you're not selling the antlers for a TV, it's for currency. Currency could be used for any number of things, and even then, you're implying you have to sell them. They can be used for medicine, handles, whistles, replacement buttons, fire-starters, pressure flakers, et cetera. The antlers have far more practical uses beyond wall-hanging. Add into the fact that using as much as possible entails more than that (including the skull, eyes, the fur, and meat that isn't traditionally eaten by humans) you get more from "hunting for food" than you do "hunting for sport".
A trophy is worth less do to it being less useful, and what's more useful is more ethical.
I think the idea of exchanging a precious commodity (a piece of a once-living organism) for a frivolous good was more to his point, however. Let's say it was a barter. It's true that you don't have to sell them, either, but again--I think that would be missing the point of his experiment.
37849
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:14:05 AM »
Actually, quick thought experiment: which (if either) is worse?
a) killing a deer because you really love deer burgers, or
b) killing a deer so you can sell their antlers and buy a new TV. When you put it that way, it's pretty clear that they're both equally objectionable acts. Neither is worse than the other, ethically speaking. I think the title of your thread, however, is too vague for any of us to have thought of this particular scenario, so I'm glad you delineated.
37850
« on: June 01, 2015, 12:06:44 AM »
A) Animals grown commercially live under worse living conditions than those that live their lives naturally. [Reasons provided previously]
B) To purchase the meat of commercially grown animals is tantamount to supporting commercially growing animals.
C) Provided Points A and B, to consume wild game is more ethical than to consume commercially grown animals.
C2) Simply the point to "eating natural game is more ethical than the equivalent alternative". C) Point of clarification: could it not be argued that, given the worse living conditions of commercially-grown animals relative to those in the wild, it would be more ethical to "put them out of their misery" and eat them, as opposed to killing perfectly healthy wild animals? I would amend C) to be more consistent with B) to state that, "to consume wild game is more ethical than to purchase/support commercially-grown animals." D) Define "useful" as "able to be used for a practical purpose or in several ways".
E) The option which is more useful ("honoring" the death) is more ethical.
F) The most ethical way to use meat is for consumption.
G) Decoration is less practical than an object that maintains a purpose of semi-frequent use. (e.g. a knife is more practical than a photograph.)
H) A mounted head has fewer possible uses than raw material.
I) Given Points D, E, F, G, and H, a mountain head (or trophy) is less a less ethical use of resources than converting them to food and raw material.
I) Given Points C2 and H, it is more ethical to eat for food than for sport. I have no contentions. (y)
37851
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:33:36 PM »
Oh, I get it now. You were trying to be funny. not even
37852
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:31:51 PM »
This is....a thread about doing drugs
what and i obviously don't do drugs, so i responded with a non-sequitur is this what happens when you smoke too much pot
37853
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:28:30 PM »
I re-read my post and couldn't find anything condescending, but I apologize if you interpreted it that way. Describing things as "not good enough" tends to come across that way. (I kinda feel like vegans have a right to be condescending anyway.)
37854
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:24:24 PM »
i'm on that ethical high ground
You can call it dumb if you want, but implying that putting something into your own body is somehow unethical is retarded.
...what are you talking about, you crazy fuck i'm speaking in general i never implied anything about drugs
37855
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:21:32 PM »
i'm on that ethical high ground
37856
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:19:26 PM »
i don't have any phallic objects to suppress my non-existent homosexuality with
37857
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:07:23 PM »
Make a Roman starter pack
RomanGladiator starter pack
37858
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:02:46 PM »
#BadTelevision
37859
« on: May 31, 2015, 10:57:36 PM »
My point being, though you are apparently having trouble making the distinction between those two "uses", she's just making the simple argument that some uses are more noble than others, and I agree. To the people who try to piss off vegans by saying that these types of threads make them hungry for meat, I always say, you know, good. Awesome. I'm glad you're gonna go eat some meat. That way, the suffering of the animals that went into creating that product will not have gone to waste.
We need food. We don't need trophies. There's the distinction.
It doesn't excuse hunting, of course. Neither for sport, nor for food. But there's your distinction.
There is a lesser of the two evils.
37860
« on: May 31, 2015, 10:52:02 PM »
Whether you eat the animal or mount it on your wall, you are still "making use" of its body. So I don't see any valuable difference between them on this basis -- and merely finding one "gross and tacky" isn't really good enough. Ummm, let's put it this way... Personally, if the situation called for it, I'd rather feed a family with my body than have someone stuff me and hang me on their wall. But that's just me.
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