There's nothing exactly inherent to women or men, if you ask me. I don't fall for the gender role bullshit.

So this is key, right? I agree with you completely. This is integral to my entire conception of the sex/gender dichotomy.

Because there's nothing (ignoring biological function) that separates the genders, a premise that you apparently accept, there is no need to act like you need to raise a boy "into a man" and a girl "into a woman". You should just raise them to be adults. Yes?

However, this doesn't change the fact that, historically, boys have been raised to exhibit a number of traits. Incoming stereotype/generalizations: Boys like "guy things". Little boys like to play with trucks and action figures (godforbid if you call them "dolls"). They don't write diarie--they write in journals. They're not afraid to get their hands dirty, and they're not afraid to get a little bit rough during playtime. When they grow up, men tend to be more competitively inclined than women. This is just the tip of the iceberg, but this is how the average boy tends to be raised in our society.

Women have their own traits that have been ingrained by society that I won't get into. In short, they tend to like "girly things" growing up. How many women do you know don't wear makeup? How many guys do you know wear makeup? Exactly.

If you raised a boy, then, what--if there's no gender boundaries, as you've stated--is stopping you from raising them "as a girl"? Have them watch Barbie movies. Have them play with dolls. Have them play House with their friends. Have them wear bright colors and froofy dresses. Have them wear makeup. Have them like all stereotypically "girly" things.

You know what I'm getting at.
That person was raised as a girl.

Chances are, they're going to think of themselves as a girl, genderly speaking.

They may come to be aware of their boyhood--but whose to say he's gonna start "reverting back" to a "boy's life" that he never had? Whose to say he wouldn't be perfectly comfortable living the "girl's life"?

The whole point is that this whole "gender" thing is all in our heads anyway.
That's what I've been trying to say this whole time, but no, people are too stupid.

Because they're a girl.

That's not the question, idiot.

HOW do you raise someone "as a girl"?
What does it mean to raise someone as a girl?
What do you have to do?
What does it involve?
In what way is it different than raising someone as a boy?

i'm not terribly fond of you, besides your death grips fandom

Verbatim, you are a clover mite!

you're a silverfish

or a whirligig

we get lots of em around here
they're quite pleasant

What I'm saying is that you can't condition gender.

you can

he just did it badly

you don't fucking castrate a kid and expect things to go okay for him

i would agree

they drink too much though

scottish dialect is cancer

i don't know who really denies that it's a disease

however, it isn't, in itself, harmful

I don't shun anybody.

if you're not accepting them, what are you doing

k

Stop pretending you wanted to have one, since you've been pretty hostile the whole thread.

it's a highly emotionally-charged subject, and you already know this

if the first thread wasn't enough for you

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 04:00:33 PM

you are an extremely uninteresting user

Oh, are my opinions not controversial enough for you?

I guess that's what it's like to be likeable.

you're just nothing

you don't say anything, you're not funny, you don't contribute shit
you don't even have a unique personality that makes you stand out

Is this just random or is there a reason for the bug.

it's not random

telling would spoil the fun

I stand by everything I said in the other thread.

No one should give a fuck about gender. No one.

It's not a disease, and it should absolutely be accepted.