Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 10:40:09 PM

Does your opinion on space travel come from an anti-natalist view or a general view?

Um, both. While I can't disagree necessarily with the idea of space travel for the purpose of harvesting unearthly resources, I'm obviously completely against the terraformation of other planets (which, good luck accomplishing that anyway).

Space travel to the point where we can comfortably and expediently make multiple round trips to other planets is SO far into the future, it's hard to contrive a reality where we could ever feasibly do it, so from my perspective, it seems like a waste of time and money, and we should instead focus on making the most of what we already have here.

Y.

What productive purpose could we possibly serve by going into space? Seems like a colossal waste of time and money.

Anyone that's against space travel is against the advancement of humanity.

Indeed.

favorite film of all time

why are you so fucking weird

THE SECOND HALF OF TTGL IS TRASH

TRAAAAAAAAAASH

you're half right

that's what i said

p. lame tbh

I'm high now so uh lol

I'll take this up tomorrow don't lock it

well, thanks for that courtesy, at least

nothing's worse than trying to discuss anything with someone who's high/drunk

There's nothing exactly inherent to women or men, if you ask me. I don't fall for the gender role bullshit.

So this is key, right? I agree with you completely. This is integral to my entire conception of the sex/gender dichotomy.

Because there's nothing (ignoring biological function) that separates the genders, a premise that you apparently accept, there is no need to act like you need to raise a boy "into a man" and a girl "into a woman". You should just raise them to be adults. Yes?

However, this doesn't change the fact that, historically, boys have been raised to exhibit a number of traits. Incoming stereotype/generalizations: Boys like "guy things". Little boys like to play with trucks and action figures (godforbid if you call them "dolls"). They don't write diarie--they write in journals. They're not afraid to get their hands dirty, and they're not afraid to get a little bit rough during playtime. When they grow up, men tend to be more competitively inclined than women. This is just the tip of the iceberg, but this is how the average boy tends to be raised in our society.

Women have their own traits that have been ingrained by society that I won't get into. In short, they tend to like "girly things" growing up. How many women do you know don't wear makeup? How many guys do you know wear makeup? Exactly.

If you raised a boy, then, what--if there's no gender boundaries, as you've stated--is stopping you from raising them "as a girl"? Have them watch Barbie movies. Have them play with dolls. Have them play House with their friends. Have them wear bright colors and froofy dresses. Have them wear makeup. Have them like all stereotypically "girly" things.

You know what I'm getting at.
That person was raised as a girl.

Chances are, they're going to think of themselves as a girl, genderly speaking.

They may come to be aware of their boyhood--but whose to say he's gonna start "reverting back" to a "boy's life" that he never had? Whose to say he wouldn't be perfectly comfortable living the "girl's life"?

The whole point is that this whole "gender" thing is all in our heads anyway.
That's what I've been trying to say this whole time, but no, people are too stupid.

Because they're a girl.

That's not the question, idiot.

HOW do you raise someone "as a girl"?
What does it mean to raise someone as a girl?
What do you have to do?
What does it involve?
In what way is it different than raising someone as a boy?

i'm not terribly fond of you, besides your death grips fandom

Verbatim, you are a clover mite!

you're a silverfish

or a whirligig

we get lots of em around here
they're quite pleasant

What I'm saying is that you can't condition gender.

you can

he just did it badly

you don't fucking castrate a kid and expect things to go okay for him

i would agree

they drink too much though

scottish dialect is cancer