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Gaming / Re: The World Video Game Hall of Fame
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:35:35 PM »

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Serious / Re: Do you consider transgenderism a mental illness?
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:34:37 PM »
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Kinda is. Especially since you're arguing for the "brainwashing" of people to disregard gender.
Can you explain to me, then, how disregarding gender (as opposed to sex) would produce any sort of problems? I know you consider gender synonymous with sex, but I'm not using the word in the same way as you. I'm not saying we should disregard sex, but we certainly ought to disregard gender roles. So, explain to me why, if we threw away gender roles, that there would be some problem.

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I know all of this. That's why I said you can't condition gender.
I was merely summing up the key factors of the case. I was under the impression that the boy was castrated, but the fact that he wasn't kind of changes my argument a little bit.
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This is what I'm saying. Ideally, males and females are fine with their ended when born. Some people gender dysphoria (which is a mental illness) and screws up their perception of themselves.
Well, great. I think we're kind of on the same page, now. I would agree with you when you say that, ideally, males and females are fine with their... let's say, congruent sex/gender alignment. That's ideal.

However, what about those who aren't necessarily dysphoric, but are still nonbinary? They're still trans, but they're perfectly okay with that. Are you saying these people shouldn't be fine, or shouldn't be comfortable? And if so, why? Why does it matter, then, if they're perfectly content with their nonbinary status?

I don't contest that it's a disease--I'm merely illustrating scenarios where the disease has zero negative effect on the mental wellbeing of the individual.
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Environment comes into play, so do your genes and what your parents teach you.
I would agree.

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Serious / Re: Do you consider transgenderism a mental illness?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:45:59 PM »
and that's merely a hypothesis based on observations i've had throughout my life, combined with a basic understanding of brain development at young ages, so i don't have any hard evidence--but that's what i believe the truth to be, and i've seen nothing to contradict it thus far

you disagree, and i think that's just how it's going to be, unless you indeed have some evidence to quash that hypothesis

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Serious / Re: Do you consider transgenderism a mental illness?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:42:39 PM »
tl;dr

the only thing that john money's case proves is that you cannot impose genders

gender is acquired not through force, but by spontaneity, heuristics, and nuance

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Serious / Re: Do you consider transgenderism a mental illness?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:35:44 PM »
If its inherent in the majority, yeah it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

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You really can't do it effectively. Pretty immoral, too.
Oh, it's extremely unethical. Undeniably. But that's not the subject, is it? The subject is whether it's possible, and, last night, I gathered all the information I could about the Money/Reiner case. Learned a lot. Formed a new conclusion from it.

First of all, Reiner was not castrated at all. He was undergoing a circumcision when something went horribly wrong. As a result, Money had recommended that he be reassigned as a female and raised as such. He reported the case as a success, when in actuality, Reiner never personally identified as a female, and began living as a male at age 15. He was suicidally depressed at that age, and finally did so when he was 38.

John Money was obviously a crazyfuck. A contemptible human being. However, from this case, I amend my position on the issue only slightly. His case, though it does NOT prove that gender is environmental, doesn't disprove it, either. You cannot simply raise a boy as a girl, or vice versa. That would be imposing. You can't force gender on someone. Your identity has to come about naturally and spontaneously. And depending on that social environment, it really could go either way. Male, female, or something in between (androgyny).

I consider myself androgynous-leaning-male in terms of my gender, for example. There are many traits I have that are stereotypically associated with women--other that are associated with men. Mostly men. It could be argued that most people have an androgynous gender. In fact, that's my argument.

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Gaming / Re: Is KOTOR better with keyboard and mouse or controller?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:17:04 PM »
Good luck playing an RTS with a controller.
>playing RTS games
>EVER

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Uh, no. I think hippies are hippies.

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Gaming / Re: Is KOTOR better with keyboard and mouse or controller?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:05:39 PM »
>playing games on keyboards
>EVER

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The Flood / Re: Have you ever
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:37:36 AM »
i'd probably get shot and/or raped

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The Flood / Re: so we broke our "most online" record yesterday
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:27:44 AM »
Does it count if they're all guests? >.>
it counts guests, yeah

unless that was a rhetorical question

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nope

why

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The Flood / so we broke our "most online" record yesterday
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:22:54 AM »
204 people were on the site at once (that's about 10 over the last record)

oooooooh

so what happened
i thought the site was supposed to be "dying"

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:17:42 AM »
i give him three days

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The Flood / Re: just copped some dank weed AMA
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:16:20 AM »
can't you appreciate its sex appeal
No

I cannot

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Gaming / Re: Splatoon is all
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:14:21 AM »
nice youyou

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:12:25 AM »
You don't know that. I may.
it should be your goal though

and yeah, if you fail, then in my opinion, you should get banned for exorbitant amounts of time
because it means you haven't learned, and it'll give you the furthered incentive to commit to your words

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:07:40 AM »
I would prefer not having my warning points going up any damn higher, because that would make it easier for me to get banned monthly.
it wouldn't matter if your mission is to improve yourself

ideally, you'd never get banned again

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The Flood / Re: How did that fish do it?
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:05:26 AM »
you know

this show was weird as fuck

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The Flood / Re: just copped some dank weed AMA
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:02:56 AM »
just looking at that stuff makes me happy that i'll never use it

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Gaming / Re: The World Video Game Hall of Fame
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:59:07 AM »
How the fuck did the Final Fantasy series not end up on there? It's as iconic as you can get.
It'll get up there eventually. I wouldn't put it before any of the games currently inducted, though.

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:56:25 AM »
Maybe if I had my account temporarily disabled, I dunno.
that's what a ban would do

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The Flood / Re: Bang the user's avatar above you
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:41:29 AM »
tag teamin her with flee

edit:
also these threads tend to be better if it's a "below you" type deal

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The Flood / Re: What have I missed?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:36:12 AM »
it's only been a week

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Do mine first, I am Arky, we ate great friends.
well i hope they tasted good

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The Flood / Re: WWJD
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:25:49 AM »
i always wanted to meet one of them spanish dudes whose parents had the audacity to name them jesus

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what constitutes a "career" anyway

i know it's just a job, but
people treat it like it's this bigger, better thing

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:15:00 AM »
I don't think I know you well enough to have genuine feels.
How would we truly know that you killed yourself?
that's the scary part

you wouldn't

if we don't know his full name and location, there's no real way of knowing

that's sort of why i make that sort of thing public, because if i died, i wouldn't want people to wonder

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:12:47 AM »
Saying "go ahead" isn't much.
that's what would be so devastating about it though

like, if it was your mother or something

idk let me fucking contradict class in peace, please

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cheat ended rocketman's whole career

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The Flood / Re: If I killed myself, how would you feel?
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:05:32 AM »
>guilting people into not killing themselves

That's literally the worst way to handle this kind of situation
better than saying "go ahead"

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