Verb I have a question, what defines your "objective system of value math." morality stuff. Like what makes you think something is moral vs not(I know you said morality doesn't exist it's just the thing I have in quotes, i can't think of another word for it lol)

"Ethics" works.
The reason I don't like "morality" is because it implies dogma--or an absolute law.
I don't like absolute laws. It's important that laws be malleable.

This value system allows for us to look at individual events and evaluate them on a case-by-case basis.

As we all know, there's only two types of value--positive value, and negative value. These values are derived from our sensations--namely, our capacity to feel pain and pleasure. Pain is an inherently negative value, and is the most important value.

Once we establish those fundamental truths, we can essentially evaluate any scenario to see if it's running a "profit". A scenario is only running a profit if the total positive value of the situation outweighs the negative value. Simple enough, right?

So, let's say you're sitting on your ass and eating an ice cream cone. But just outside, you see something terrible--a woman is trapped under a tipped truck with her kids, and it's about to explode, Grand Theft Auto style. Now, you could keep sitting on your ass and eating your ice cream, and enjoy the show, or you could make an attempt to rescue those people.

I mean, you can tell that there's a pretty obvious better option in that scenario. That's the value math system at work. The family's rescue is worth far more than your personal desire to have ice cream.

Now, we can come up with harder and harder scenarios all day, but that's basically the system. Sometimes, you'll be forced to choose not necessarily the "best" option, but the least worst option. But there's always a correct option.

tl;dr
Put it simply:
An act is ethical if there is a net positive outcome.
An act is unethical if there is a net negative outcome.

All value is calculable, if you're willing to put your mind to it.

Verb

His posts are hilarious

did you hear about the mexican train killer









































he had locomotives

season finale

fuck

i want it to be over, so i never have to hear about it anymore

Nasu is a hack.

hack as in a ripoff artist, or as in a charlatan
or both

>linkin park

not even once, cunt

joy has nothing to do with anything

i might derive great joy from torturing my worst enemy--but i wouldn't ever do it

So we shouldn't eat meat but we should force women to get abortions?

yes

ideally, no woman should be opposed to getting an abortion anyway, ethically speaking

i like how you're trying to imply that those two statements contradict each other somehow, when they clearly have absolutely nothing to do with each other

Yeah.

i mean, i'm not one to talk--i can get pretty preachy sometimes--but shit

Quote from: Verbatim on June 09, 2015, 09:44:27 PM

"steins;gate"

Spoiler

That's because Okabe pretends to be an evil scientist for his childhood friend's happiness, and this ever since her grandmother died when she was young. Others in the VN/show itself even comment on the silly "Operation" names, the Steins;Gate, and his Reading Steiner as being needlessly complicated.

Spoiler

CUNT

why do you care about the torture and murder of sentient creatures? i thought you were all about avoiding living.

...jesus christ...

The only thing I'm "all about avoiding" is childbirth, specifically because I care so much about the suffering of the living. You couldn't have missed the first two of my controversial opinions in this thread, even if you were unfamiliar with what I actually believe.

1. Having kids is wrong (for a wide variety of reasons; namely that it's an imposition, and that life is mostly negative)
2. The only thing with any intrinsic value in the universe is suffering.

so of course i care about the torture of ALL sentient beings

verby saw the lion king as a kid and it really fucked him up forever about the circle of life

I'm not sure what the "circle of life" has to do with eating meat.

meat also contains some vitamins and minerals that you otherwise need to take vitamins or supplements for, soooo...

...Right. So take the vitamins and supplements. They're there, and they're readily available. There's no excuse.

Sometimes it annoys me when an anime is titled like.. Something that doesn't make sense. Attack on Titan. Like, what?

ikr

"steins;gate"
"fate/stay night"

>word salads
>superfluous "artsy" punctuation marks

fuck anime

unless you don't consider meat-eaters to be addicts

which i do

It's far more complicated than that. You can't "will" yourself out of addiction any more than you can will yourself out of depression.

i did
my dad did

not saying everyone can, but let's not make generalizations